Venting We are all trapped here. Nobody will leave this world alive. The earth is a burial ground for everybody.

[Darkover]

At the core of everything, it's just particles following indifferent laws, assembling temporarily before breaking apart again. No inherent meaning, no purpose—just a cycle of formation and decay. It's a harsh reality to sit with, knowing that everything, including ourselves, is just a fleeting arrangement of atoms bound to unravel.

Life is a temporary state that inevitably leads to oblivion. Every living being, no matter how significant in its time, will eventually decay and be forgotten. The universe operates on cycles of formation and dissolution, where matter is rearranged, used up, and returned to entropy. In the grand scheme, existence is fleeting, and all things, from individuals to civilizations, are destined to fade into nothingness.

the fact that everything we are, everything we build, and everything we experience will eventually dissolve into nothingness. The universe doesn't care, and time erases all traces of existence. No matter how much meaning we try to assign to life, it's all temporary. Even the stars that burn for billions of years will one day collapse into darkness.

 

[dust-in-the-wind]

From the void we come. Back to the void we go.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

That's truly what it seems to be. No way to really tell with our brains, tbh. If our planet is smaller than the size of a dust molecule in relation to the rest of the universe.

Something I heard once makes a lot of sense. On the microscopic level, all you see is chaos and cells dying and devouring each other. But when you expand to the macro view, it appears to be stable. i.e., expanding out to the human body, it is relatively functional and organized.

Maybe the chaos we see down here is only a microcosm of what actually exists, and when we expand out to a super-macro view, maybe it makes more sense.

From the void we come. Back to the void we go.

Hopefully. But on an infinite timeline, everything that can happen will happen. So if we came from the void, and we go back to the void, we may very well come right back from the void.

 

[divinemistress36]

I cant wait till I decay and my remains become one with the earth

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Yep every cradle is a grave. And we don't ever truly own anything forever because everything changes. Relationships, houses, cars, money, eventually someone else will have everything we once had. I find that really hard to come to terms with.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

That's the real kicker isn't it? Everything is passed on. Someone else will have everything, but even our bodies are just loans from the Earth. I wonder who owns our consciousness. How any of this even happened is beyond insane. What a nightmare.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

We all will die anyway and it's fleeting too. is any human even in reality ? do they act like they will die soon? they say they love life but do they know they will die and soon?

to me Death/ non-existence forever is the greatest gift i could receive. but they say they love life so Death to them will be horrific.

That's the real kicker isn't it? Everything is passed on. Someone else will have everything, but even our bodies are just loans from the Earth. I wonder who owns our consciousness. How any of this even happened is beyond insane. What a nightmare.

do you believe in evolution? it's all there. life is just chemical reactions , a cell a machine

your mine any human brain just makes models of reality and creates the illusion of a viewer a self in the enviroment, it's just brain cells in the brain , each brain cell has the core of the first cell. to me it's a horror beyond imagination a brain that can suffer unending constant unbearable pain

Frontiers | The Attention Schema Theory: A Foundation for Engineering Artificial Consciousness

The purpose of the attention schema theory is to explain how an information-processing device, the brain, arrives at the claim that it possesses a non-physic...

www.frontiersin.org

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

We are unfortunately the cursed. Cursed with existence. Each of us the spawn of two people that were reckless and haphazard with their decision making. Thes best we can do is not procreate ourselves and spread the ideology of anti-natalism as much as we can, so that future insufferable existences can be prevented. Then eventually one day meet our fate, hopefully sooner than later. Then we will finally be free. Thank god it's not eternal.

 

[SchrodingerIsDed]

We are unfortunately the cursed. Cursed with existence. Each of us the spawn of two people that were reckless and haphazard with their decision making. Thes best we can do is not procreate ourselves and spread the ideology of anti-natalism as much as we can, so that future insufferable existences can be prevented. Then eventually one day meet our fate, hopefully sooner than later. Then we will finally be free.

Why does it matter if we procreate or not? To us it won't mean anything, when we're gone. Maybe our genetics being passed on could help humanity save itself. There are certainly individuals who seem to be capable of living life fully and normally.

All we'd need to do is generate a proper gene manipulation therapy to make it to where humans are capable of enduring anything and also being kinder to each other and functioning more as a cohesive whole. If my kid grows up, maybe she will be able to help that come along. I wouldn't have lived this long if it weren't for my daughter. And she's done very well for herself. I wouldn't trade it for the world. Or an end to my suffering.

Thank god it's not eternal.

This concept has been bugging me in the last week, though....I wish it was true. I wish it was not eternal. But on an infinite timeline, everything that can happen will happen. That means the exact circumstances of all of the pieces that fell into place for us to live this exact life.......they can reoccur in the exact pattern, again.

We go to the nothingness. We come out of the nothingness....and maybe we come right back.

If it is nothing, even 1 trillion years, even 100,000,000 trillion trillion trillion years would feel like no time at all, giving the universe time to develop the exact same circumstances that birthed us from the nothingness.

What if when we die, we just wake up and have to do it all over again? What if there is only the eternal? The fact that we exist at all is just mind-boggling. Coming from nothing.

This haunts me.

 

[L'absent]

Never believe people who pretend to be happy. Ostentatious happiness is always a mask, an empty shell built to conform to expectations or to hide the inner failure that permeates every existence. No one is at peace with themselves because no such peace is possible within a mass of cells destined to decay and dissolve. Human beings do not live; they merely survive, dragging themselves through each day in an existence devoid of purpose, deluding themselves that building something might give meaning to what, by its very nature, has none.
It takes only a moment of observation to unmask the deception. Behind every forced laugh, every declaration of fulfillment, every façade of success, lies the same barely concealed anguish, the same terror of the inevitable. The eyes betray the emptiness that words try to cover. Those who flaunt their happiness do not possess it; they are merely trying to convince themselves it exists. The entire society is built upon this illusion, a collective hypnosis in which every adult struggles desperately, never finding anything more than a surrogate for meaning.
Everything human beings construct—cities, careers, relationships, children—is destined to evaporate. None of it leaves a real trace, none of it has intrinsic value, none of it escapes dissolution. They strive to name things, to erect structures, to define laws, to proclaim meaning, yet every effort is but a speck of dust in the universe, fated to disappear without leaving a mark. They create, invent, and celebrate their miserable constructions, but it is only a hall of mirrors within an infinite void. The truth is that nothing has meaning because life itself is nothing more than a random biological phenomenon—directionless, purposeless, utterly devoid of significance.

 

[MatrixPrisoner]

Why does it matter if we procreate or not? To us it won't mean anything, when we're gone. Maybe our genetics being passed on could help humanity save itself. There are certainly individuals who seem to be capable of living life fully and normally.

Procreation is clearly a probability game with very bad odds. Every prospective parent wants to believe that their child is going to be something special, but the statistical reality is that too many children will grow up to be nothing more than miserable cogs of a toxic and belligerent society or just downright useless to society altogether. What happens after we are gone won't matter to us, but the consequences of what we have done (good and/or bad) will exist long after we are gone. Particularly those of us who have the legacy of children. That's why I think it matters.

For anyone that happens to have their life together, feels that they have quality genes to pass on, and are confident that they will be able to provide enjoyable lives for their children, I say go for it. And good luck. My viewpoint applies much less to you, if at all. I just don't understand why anyone that fits this description would be here on this side of SS reading my comment.

But all too often, people that have absolutely no business having children, end up haphazardly doing so just for the hell of it, without really considering the consequences. People that much less don't even have their own lives together, yet want to create new ones. And all it does it perpetuate a huge population of people that don't want to exist, or have to meaninglessly struggle to do so.

And why is humanity obligated to "save itself"? If you think about it, there really is no consequence to the universe if humans just simply ceased to exist. And if there is an obligation or consequence, it doesn't look like the world is going about it the right way. At least not to me. For every promising person like your daughter, that will likely make a positive impact on this world, seems like there are 10 criminals being born to try and take it all away.

But on an infinite timeline, everything that can happen will happen. That means the exact circumstances of all of the pieces that fell into place for us to live this exact life.......they can reoccur in the exact pattern, again.

I understand this theory and very much believe it to be possible.



I just think that the chances of an exact rearrangement of atoms to form my current existence with the exact same consciousness is very slim.

And if it does miraculously happen a trillion years from now, then fck me I guess. If I have to suffer through another half century of misery, so be it. But personally, the afterlife or lack thereof, does not worry me whatsoever. I think I will enjoy eternal non-existence. Or at least enough non-existence to be well rested for my next one.

All we'd need to do is generate a proper gene manipulation therapy to make it to where humans are capable of enduring anything and also being kinder to each other and functioning more as a cohesive whole.

For whomever is alive if or when this bioengineered utopia comes to fruition, I congratulate them on their luck ahead of time. Considering how controversial a simple current day vaccine is to a lot of people, I'm sure it will be ages, if ever, when the day that people allow the fabric of their bodies to be manipulated comes.

I am fully aware that my comments and ideology might strike a nerve with anyone here that has children. And it's understandable. But I stand firm in my own belief that that having children is a cruel lottery with a very slim chance of winning and that procreation will just continue to manufacture too many insufferable existences.