Ways to talk to professionals?

[deerme]

Is there ways for me to talk to professionals about how im feeling without the risk of being sent to a hospital?
I was in two separate mental wards last month, and im drowning in school work now because of that. Which is only making things worse. I either want to actually finish the job next time or get help, because i refuse to go into another mental hospital this semester. Does anyone have any advice?

 

[lostmyself]

As long as you tell them you aren't actively trying to ctb, they won't have you in a mental hospital. You can talk about ideation, stuff in the past, but they should not commit you as long as you are not actively going to pursue. Best of luck.

 

[timf]

The word "professional" has three meanings. Two of them are in popular usage today. The first is a job someone has that they went to college to get. The second is getting paid for something as opposed to being an "amateur". The older definition was someone who believed in something that they would "profess" (such as the Hippocratic oath for medical doctors).

In talking to "professionals" today, there are some points to keep in mind.

1. They often feel superior and get defensive when challenged.
2. Not mentioning things may not be as much of a defense if they have access to your records.
3. Clinical detachment allows them to dispose of you if you should become inconvenient.
4. A determination of you as a "type" will often lock in a certain type of treatment.

There are people working in this field who have a sincere desire to help. There are an even smaller group who actually can help. You have to get a feel for yourself if you can trust the person you are assigned to. You may also wish to first get a feel for their competence by bringing up an innocuous problem and see if they can handle a "softball" before risking something deeper.

 

[Mentalmick]

As said, just don't mention any active suicidal thoughts and you'll be fine. And don't be scared to question them. A lot of them fucking hate that, that's how you work out the bad ones.

 

[signifying nothing]

I'd be honest and tell them you're afraid of things getting bad and being hospitalised again. Say that you need help now to try and prevent that from happening.

 

[saltshaker]

As long as you tell them you aren't actively trying to ctb, they won't have you in a mental hospital. You can talk about ideation, stuff in the past, but they should not commit you as long as you are not actively going to pursue. Best of luck.

The second time i was hospitalised i didn't even mention suicide, these days i don't know what to say at all. :(

 

[lostmyself]

The second time i was hospitalised i didn't even mention suicide, these days i don't know what to say at all. :(

Oh really. That really is terrible. It makes people not want to express how they are truly feeling and when you don't you don't it's hard to get truly helped. I am so sorry. Perhaps a different psychiatrist?? It takes sometimes quite a few to really connect with somebody. Hoping you find a good one and don't get involuntary committed. All the best.

 

[Kotochan]

I struggle with this too - and no matter how much you ask they never want to go into details on exactly what you can say.

If I could say I want to kill myself, have acquired a method, and think about doing it a lot with a plan, but I'd be willing to put this aside for treatment for a time to give it a college try then I would. But that would be too scary for them so gotta keep quiet lmao - I don't understand how DBT is supposed to work on SI when it literally requires you to not talk about it or you fail the program

 

[Sherri]

A therapist alone can not have you committed, she or he doesn't have a power on that, a shrink yes, I told mine several times about my views on suicide and that I've done it and somedays I wanna do it again. he never commits me, guess it must depend on the country you or some people live.

 

[Mentalmick]

A therapist alone can not have you committed, she or he doesn't have a power on that, a shrink yes, I told mine several times about my views on suicide and that I've done it and somedays I wanna do it again. he never commits me, guess it must depend on the country you or some people live.

Some countries don't half overreact to this stuff. You'd think they were on a commission or something. Mention it where I'm from (Scotland)and you get directions to the nearest undertaker. And a sticker.

 

[Kotochan]

I'm USA and I've had some therapists really be liberal and walk through it with me and allow me to share, but I could tell I burdened them significantly. Probably with the worry of malpractice and my death, she just knew I would lie to the cops if she told on me is what she explained her logic as.

Some countries don't half overreact to this stuff. You'd think they were on a commission or something. Mention it where I'm from (Scotland)and you get directions to the nearest undertaker. And a sticker.

Is that serious? That's wild

 

[Mentalmick]

I'm USA and I've had some therapists really be liberal and walk through it with me and allow me to share, but I could tell I burdened them significantly. Probably with the worry of malpractice and my death, she just knew I would lie to the cops if she told on me is what she explained her logic as.

Is that serious? That's wild

I may have exaggerated ever so slightly, but they don't really care too much about suicidal people. Killing yourself here benefits the system as you're no longer using up resources. Sad but true.

 

[BeansOfRequirement]

No reason to go to them, imo. Maybe if you have some really nasty shit like schizophrenia. If you can, in a sober manner, make sense of your world and predict outcomes- there's no need for professionals, that's how I see it.

 

[saltshaker]

No reason to go to them, imo. Maybe if you have some really nasty shit like schizophrenia. If you can, in a sober manner, make sense of your world and predict outcomes- there's no need for professionals, that's how I see it.

Maybe you just want some valies/dexies, other then that, yeah there really doesn't seem to be a point.

 

[Chischek]

Both my psychologist and psychiatrist know I want to CTB and have the means to do it, they also suspect that I already have a concrete plan... Yet they do nothing because they know they can not stop me if I really want to CTB and it's just psotponing the inevitable. I know they would never commit me against my own will as it would damage our relationship and I would just terminate my therapy. So I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that gets to be completelyopen about my thoughts and plans.

 

[Mentalmick]

Both my psychologist and psychiatrist know I want to CTB and have the means to do it, they also suspect that I already have a concrete plan... Yet they do nothing because they know they can not stop me if I really want to CTB and it's just psotponing the inevitable. I know they would never commit me against my own will as it would damage our relationship and I would just terminate my therapy. So I guess I'm one of the lucky ones that gets to be completelyopen about my thoughts and plans.

That's mostly what happens here. They view it as your choice to end your life, even though in the vast majority of cases it isn't. I mean, who would actually choose to kill themselves if they had a choice? We do it because there is no other choice. I'm pretty sure they already know that and they're just avoiding liability.