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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
 
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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
Welcome to the forum!
I am so sorry about your situation. I don't know what country you are in. However, in the United States, if you are in a nursing home, they could bring you to court and be ordered to have a feeding tube placed should you refuse to eat.

We are here for you should you want to talk. :heart:
 
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I'm so sorry for your situation, and I can't imagine how difficult that would be. I want to tell you that there is always something to live for and that there are people out there who do care. I'm certainly no expert, but what you described with the coffee mug sounds possible, and I'm wondering if you're able to get comfort drugs from your doctor, if there is a possible way to accumulate enough of them to have as an option or an aid? If you were already in a weakened state and managed to accumulate enough of certain drugs...just a thought. I just think starvation on its own would be a terrible way to go, and if you're living in a nursing home, would they not eventually go the route of a feeding tube if you refused food and drink all together?
 
Green Destiny

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I'm sorry you're in this position. Really wish people who have low to no quality of life would be allowed to choose when they wish to go. I'm not well informed but maybe if you're in a certain country you could maybe apply for some kind of euthanasia program? Again I apologize since I'm not knowledgeable about that stuff.
 
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So many here consider the starvation option, but it is impractical without the kind of support provided by the environment you're in, and without the "comfort drugs."

Is your doctor willing to support your decision and provide the comfort?

It seems like you're not yet motivated to pursue that option, but can't quite manage a fast-acting one.

If you attempt with the mug and survive but require intervention or life support, do you have a DNR that will prohibit the staff from taking measures to save your life, and if yes, will they follow it?
 
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I recommend you use the search function and find the method called "Night Night" method. It's what you are describing.
 
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Heady_Cerebrum

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I recommend you use the search function and find the method called "Night Night" method. It's what you are describing.

I don't believe the "night night" method has ever actually worked. The only thing that might make it work for people is the addition of ratchet straps. At that point though, is it the night night method or strangling themselves. I hate the idea of people getting false hope through a very suspicious method.
 
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I'm sorry to hear life has brought you down this road. We are here for you <3

All I can suggest is look around the site and do some method shopping. There is no one size fits all, and often we settle for what we find least unpleasant.
 
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Okay, well the fact is that if you read the huge night night thread on here you will see many people who have tried it over and over and over again without it working. If it had any reliability it would be in one of the major self deliverance books such as the PPH. There would be many more reports of people leaving suicide notes and their bodies showing no apparent signs of suicide. Natural appearing deaths that include suicide notes would make the news for sure. Finally, and probably for me the most compelling, is that it would be a more preferred method than N, and when people have goodbye threads on here that report their method the ones that don't come back aren't reporting night night as their method.
 
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I don't know if I should give you this kind of advice, but you really seem to suffer. If you can find a knife or a scalpel, you can puncture your femoral artery. A stab near the hip doesn't require much strength. If you execute the stab properly, you will lose consciousness within 30 seconds and bleed out in 2-3 minutes. Even if they find you quickly and apply pressure to the wound, it will be difficult to save your life. I hope that they will find some better treatment for you so you don't have to resort to this, though.
 
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I don't know if I should give you this kind of advice, but you really seem to suffer. If you can find a knife or a scalpel, you can puncture your femoral artery. A stab near the hip doesn't require much strength. If you execute the stab properly, you will lose consciousness within 30 seconds and bleed out in 2-3 minutes. Even if they find you quickly and apply pressure to the wound, it will be difficult to save your life. I hope that they will find some better treatment for you so you don't have to resort to this, though.
Just sending condolences and heartfelt thoughts for how trapped you must feel. I wish I could offer more.
 
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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
I'm so sorry to hear of what a terrible situation you are in . I've heard of so many people in living nightmares .
 
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Pan

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So sorry to hear of your predicament but welcome to forum anyway. And I thought I had problems!
 
SpaceForGrace

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Not sure what kind of comfort my words can bring. I am deeply sorry for your situation and condition - I know what it feels to be trapped. Sorry there is nothing else I can do - you are in my thoughts.
 
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Welcome to the forum!
I am so sorry about your situation. I don't know what country you are in. However, in the United States, if you are in a nursing home, they could bring you to court and be ordered to have a feeding tube placed should you refuse to eat.

We are here for you should you want to talk. :heart:
I'm curious to know that if you have an advance directive in place first, would they still be able to force you to have a feeding tube?
 
Jean4

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I'm curious to know that if you have an advance directive in place first, would they still be able to force you to have a feeding tube?
Yes. In America, you can still be brought to court. The court would deem if you are psychologically stable enough to make that decision. Also, the reasoning behind it. Suicide is not legal in America, however, the courts can grant permission.
 
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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
why the F*** doctors and the society don't allow a person to die with dignity who has zero quality of life and no chance of recovery. The society is very selfish. I hope some day aliens conquer the earth and allow any person to die in a dignified way. F*** this doctors and the govt
 
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My deepest thoughts of condolences to your situation. :( Hypothetically speaking intrusive thoughts outloud, but (and I'm really unsure don't have knowledge), is it possible to borrow another's comfort pills? Bad random intrusive thought. I'm mentally ill.... either way, you are supported by your choices here, there is no push or force nor judgment and welcome to the forum. Best place I've found yet.

I must say I hate the system of the U.S. with its euthanasia debate..... i also detest these medical facilities.

My thoughts of peace are with you. ❤
 
MsMaudlin

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Situations like this make me so cross, we as adults should have the right to a peaceful death.

I can't really suggest anything practical, but I'm surrounding you with love and strength.

 
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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
Sorry you are trapped in that nightmare. We should all have to the right to hire a Dr. Kevorkian to assist us in suicide .

We have no rights . We are slaves.

There is no logical reason an adult should be barred from purchasing nembutal or fentanyl for personal use . If fentanyl were legal I would take a bath in it today or keep snorting it or putting it in my gums or inject it till I die.
 
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Sorry you are trapped in that nightmare. We should all have to the right to hire a Dr. Kevorkian to assist us in suicide .

We have no rights . We are slaves.

There is no logical reason an adult should be barred from purchasing nembutal or fentanyl for personal use . If fentanyl were legal I would take a bath in it today or keep snorting it or putting it in my gums or inject it till I die.
Even if the doctors dont provide any dignified methods, Atleast the doctors should not save the person who wants to commit suicide.They make the persons life more miserable by saving the patient.
 
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Can someone here with some expertise set the OP up with a right to die org like Dignitas? They most certainly would consider him qualified. Can someone help him?
 
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Okay, well the fact is that if you read the huge night night thread on here you will see many people who have tried it over and over and over again without it working. If it had any reliability it would be in one of the major self deliverance books such as the PPH.

PPH calls it the Korean method
 
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Hopeindeath!

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Yes. In America, you can still be brought to court. The court would deem if you are psychologically stable enough to make that decision. Also, the reasoning behind it. Suicide is not legal in America, however, the courts can grant permission.
Thanks for answering my question.
 
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Pan

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Oct 24, 2019
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I don't know if I should give you this kind of advice, but you really seem to suffer. If you can find a knife or a scalpel, you can puncture your femoral artery. A stab near the hip doesn't require much strength. If you execute the stab properly, you will lose consciousness within 30 seconds and bleed out in 2-3 minutes. Even if they find you quickly and apply pressure to the wound, it will be difficult to save your life. I hope that they will find some better treatment for you so you don't have to resort to this, though.
Where, precisely in the hip, is the scalpel used.
I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
I can't get your predicament out of my mind; remember—-I may not know you but I LOVE YOU
 
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I'm 55 years old and reside in a nursing home, I have a C5/C6 incomplete spinal cord injury that resulted in my being a "functional quadriplegic" (means I can still feel and have limited use of my arms and hands). There's absolutely nothing for me to live for, zero quality of life. I'm strongly considering starving myself to death due to my lack of options and the availability of "comfort drugs" from my doctor. However, I did notice one day, while lying on my left side, that placing a mug of a certain diameter under my neck, in pillow fashion, made me very dizzy, very fast. I do have enough manual dexterity to pull this off, but not enough to try using a tourniquet method or anything along those lines. Being prone to various infections, and being rather thin, makes me think starvation is my best option.
Well done on making it to 55. I'm going to die at 33. As you say very few options
 
Sensei

Sensei

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Where, precisely in the hip, is the scalpel used.

Here's an illustration (not graphic). The femoral artery is marked with red colour. If you press very hard with your fingers you'll be able to find a pulse.


The artery runs roughly 0.5–1.5 cm under the skin, and since you're skinny it won't be difficult to reach. A properly executed stab will lead to rapid and massive blood loss. The stab will of course hurt, but according to various testimonies, the bleeding out won't. As I stated before, you will lose consciousness in less than 30 seconds and die in 2-3 minutes.

Here's a video of a man who gets stabbed in the femoral artery (graphic). He's a grown man and passes out in about 22 seconds. I don't mean to exploit the suffering of this man, just lessen yours.



I hope that this really is what you want to do. I understand that it's difficult, if not impossible, to treat your kind of injury today. Is there some kind of experimental treatment you could try, though?
 

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