Various reports of Suicide published by the VSR (AUSTRALIA) - Sodium nitrite toxicity

[E5463656]

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/COR%202023%20005415%20Form%2038%20-%20Finding%20into%20Death%20without%20Inquest_Signed.pdf

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/COR%202023%20005415%20%26%20COR%202023%20005416%20Form%2038%20-%20Finding%20into%20Death%20without%20Inquest.pdf

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/COR%202021%20004398%20Form%2038%20-%20Finding%20into%20Death%20without%20Inquest.pdf

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/COR%202021%20004938%20-%20GREENWOOD%2C%20Nathan%20-%20Form%2038%20-%20Finding%20into%20Death%20without%20Inquest.pdf

https://www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au/sites/default/files/COR%202020%20001263%20Form%2038%20-%20HBI%20-%20Finding%20into%20Death%20without%20Inquest%20%28De-Identified%29_Signed_Redacted%20%281%29.pdf

In conclusion: Sodium Nitrite's distribution in Australia is going to be even more so limited in the future, but ordering from other sites outside of Australia and requesting them to ship their product into Australia should be fine.

Anti-enemics should obviously always be taken with SN.

It is also important to format any devices or rid yourself of anything else that you wouldn't want other people looking into after your death, as police will investigate these (basic right of privacy).

 

[Kayla]

Anti-enemics should obviously always be taken with SN.

Recommended but not 100% needed.

 

[E5463656]

Recommended but not 100% needed.

Definitely needed if you don't want to throw up your SN

 

[singingcrow]

how did you get those documents?

 

[SadCryingBunny]

I'm ctb via nitrogen in Australia. Why aren't you going via the exit bag and gas? Thank you

 

[Kayla]

Definitely needed if you don't want to throw up your SN

Definitely not needed. Also, you do know that AE doesn't 100% gurantee that you won't be sick.

 

[E5463656]

Findings | Coroners Court of Victoria

www.coronerscourt.vic.gov.au

how did you get those documents?

I'm ctb via nitrogen in Australia. Why aren't you going via the exit bag and gas? Thank you

SN is cheaper and way less tedious than buying a nitrogen tank, transporting it, setting up a mask and making sure all the connections are in order IMO

 

[DonLockwood]

Very interesting read. Thanks for sharing.

 

[Timpinghetat]

How can you be sure it's pure sn?

 

[Luther84]

How can you be sure it's pure sn?

Sn is very cheap to make. No reason it won't be pure.

 

[monkeysee2]

It is also important to format any devices or rid yourself of anything else that you wouldn't want other people looking into after your death, as police will investigate these (basic right of privacy).

How do I get rid of my devices? Can't think of anything apart from setting them on fire which will arouse attention.

Wiping devices apparently isn't enough.

 

[DonLockwood]

How do I get rid of my devices? Can't think of anything apart from setting them on fire which will arouse attention.

Most phones and PCs have a factory reset button. That would be the go-to rather then setting them on fire.

 

[monkeysee2]

I spoke to a cop and he said wiping the devices wasn't enough and they can still access the info

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

I spoke to a cop and he said wiping the devices wasn't enough and they can still access the info

Disagree. Wiping/factory reset should suffice

 

[DonLockwood]

I spoke to a cop and he said wiping the devices wasn't enough and they can still access the info

Oh wow I didn't know that. Then again I'm not that tech literate.

 

[monkeysee2]

Disagree. Wiping/factory reset should suffice

Unless the data is overwritten, it's still on there

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Unless the data is overwritten, it's still on there

Even if that's true, I highly doubt someone will go through the difficulty of accessing the formatted/deleted data.

 

[monkeysee2]

Even if that's true, I highly doubt someone will go through the difficulty of accessing the formatted/deleted data.

I think they can do, a suicide is treated as an investigation. I was shocked when I looked into it but they're pretty intrusive into the deceased's life, just read some of the coroners reports above. It does depend on the country though.

 

[DeadManLiving]

Even if that's true, I highly doubt someone will go through the difficulty of accessing the formatted/deleted data.

Factory wipes are 100% possible to forensically recover. In fact, all commercial hardware has a is back door(able) ask any logic board electrical engineer.

Better option would to physically sledgehammer, torch and throw in a river.

 

[idontknowwhatiam]

Factory wipes are 100% possible to forensically recover. In fact, all commercial hardware has a is back door(able) ask any logic board electrical engineer.

Better option would to physically sledgehammer, torch and throw in a river.

My point is, is that REALISTICALLY, no one would bother to forensically recover a factory reset phone......

 

[E5463656]

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I spoke to a cop and he said wiping the devices wasn't enough and they can still access the info

according to the reports factory reset should be fine

 

[jojobanana]

so they look for evidence of where u sourced your sn?

 

[apple0613]

My point is, is that REALISTICALLY, no one would bother to forensically recover a factory reset phone......

It's possible when police needs to make sure that deceased is not been murdered, especially when deceased's phone just got a factory reset.

I think about this a lot, and it only makes sense if police do the investigation into all of my tech products and accounts after I die, since they shouldn't sort out the case just because I have a suicide note on my desktop, I mean, that can be written by anyone. They should at least check every digital stuff before closing the case, if there is a phone own by the dead and just reset very recently, they should check it, not like this will cost that much of time or money.

 

[E5463656]

so they look for evidence of where u sourced your sn?

Yes, to fill their report, it is mandatory for a coroner's report to be filled out when anyone dies in Victoria (probably other states have something similar), but basically if you die of suicide in Melbourne it'll be posted on that website, it's up to their discresion whether it's posted or not, so nothing can really be done about it unfortunately

 

[plantlife]

1) All suicides are investigated but a coroner's inquest usually only occurs in cases of suicide if there are remarkable circumstances or questions of culpability (e.g. suicide in a psych ward, or if police were present and may have escalated the crisis, or if the body was never found). It's discretionary. I used to work for the Coroner's Court in another Australian state but it's very similar across jurisdictions. The UK system works this way too.

2) A factory reset is absolutely not enough if you intend for your data to be unrecoverable. Please don't follow the tech advice of random people in a suicide support group. Anyone in IT will tell you a reset is not enough.

3) If you don't want your data discovered, make it physically undiscoverable. Destroy what you can (format devices, snap SD cards in half, drill holes in hard drives, etc.) and discard the pieces in a public bin/dumpster away from CCTV, or throw them in a lake. No offense but this is common sense.

4) Be aware that unless you've spent the last 20 years on Tor, your online footprint is probably a greater threat to your privacy than any physical device you own.

Or just... accept the loss of privacy? Unless you're hoarding child porn or something I don't understand why it's such a big deal for the police to see your data after you're dead. Does it really matter?