Up date from Peru.

[Avisagia]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

 

[Socrates Respecter]

what is halatal exactly? And can you link the post where you describe the beginning of your story on getting it?

 

[randal_bond]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

Do I understand it right that you just approach random vet stores and ask? Do you feel comfortable sharing the price per bottle?

what is halatal exactly? And can you link the post where you describe the beginning of your story on getting it?

Halatal is Nembutal for veterinary use. Comes in two strengths, if I remember correctly. One - far anaesthesia, another for euthanasia of animals. One is pink in colour, another - green, not to confuse. Either will work for us.

 

[Avisagia]

what is halatal exactly? And can you link the post where you describe the beginning of your story on getting it?

Thats the first post

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

If I wasn't living in poverty, I would be on a flight to Peru right now.

what is halatal exactly? And can you link the post where you describe the beginning of your story on getting it?

It's a form of veterinary Nembutal.

 

[MyChoiceAlone]

it's just a brand name (i'm pretty sure)

did you bring it back home? brave! i wouldn't want to get caught with it. especially 9 bottles lol.

 

[WAITING TO DIE]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

Maybe you could sell tickets for a Nembutal lottery ?
I'm sure there would be a lot of tickets to sell.

 

[voyager]

That's indeed very interesting and congratulations. According to the PPeH Peru does indeed seem the most viable and perhaps last route. My foremost question would be do you speak Spanish? Because to me that seems like one of the greatest hinderances. What's more, with so many attempts of purchase, doesn't that raise any red flags there? Is the attempt illegal? Or maybe draw sketchy interference?

 

[Avisagia]

it's just a brand name (i'm pretty sure)

did you bring it back home? brave! i wouldn't want to get caught with it. especially 9 bottles lol.

No. I didnt try to bring it back home, i didnt find a way thats not to risky

 

[ClownWorld2023]

20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it

Impressive that you didn't give up at that point.

 

[Avisagia]

That's indeed very interesting and congratulations. According to the PPeH Peru does indeed seem the most viable and perhaps last route. My foremost question would be do you speak Spanish? Because to me that seems like one of the greatest hinderances. What's more, with so many attempts of purchase, doesn't that raise any red flags there? Is the attempt illegal? Or maybe draw sketchy interference?

good question, i dont know a word in spanish i used google translate and the photo of halatals bottle from the internet.
aBout the second question, u are right and i guess that if more and more people will come to peru to buy it and will be found dead, the regulation on halatal bottles will start..right now, its hard to get in Lima but easy in Cusco. (OTC)

Impressive that you didn't give up at that point.

Ticket to peru is not a cheap thing

 

[Praestat_Mori]

No. I didnt try to bring it back home, i didnt find a way thats not to risky

What happened to it when you left the bottles in the country? Well I'm sure you didn't buy it just for fun?

 

[Avisagia]

I buried 3 of them. 6 i hided somewere

 

[P@in]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

Thank you for the update, informative.

Questions:

1. Did you buy only 1 bottle each time at each store?

2. How much for a bottle, and did you pay extra (bribe)?

3. How much N is in each bottle in grams?

 

[Dmoore3232]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

Do you just drink 1 bottle? Mix it with juice or something? What is the mL per bottle?

 

[FuneralCry]

I envy those who have access to Nembutal, they are fortunate to me as it really does sound like the best way to cease existing on our own terms. It must be such a relief having N.

 

[randal_bond]

I envy those who have access to Nembutal, they are fortunate to me as it really does sound like the best way to cease existing on our own terms. It must be such a relief having N.

It doesn't have to be N. There're other barbiturates listed in PPeH. For example, phenobarbital and thiopental are manufactured in India and Eastern Europe and sold/used extensively in regular licenced pharmacies, very cheaply, too. People can travel there or risk to import, instead. But the number of scams around them are very high, too.
Just a heads-up for everybody here.

 

[Avisagia]

Thank you for the update, informative.

Questions:

1. Did you buy only 1 bottle each time at each store?

2. How much for a bottle, and did you pay extra (bribe)?

3. How much N is in each bottle in grams?

i bought 6 in lima and 3 in cusco. The 6 are from the same supplier. The other 3 are each from a different store

Thank you for the update, informative.

Questions:

1. Did you buy only 1 bottle each time at each store?

2. How much for a bottle, and did you pay extra (bribe)?

3. How much N is in each bottle in grams?

Prices for bottle has a big range from 35 sols (10$) to 150 sols (45$). Depend on where u buy it.( in lima its more expensive)
Each bottle contains 3.25g of N, the same bottle they show in the PPH

Do you just drink 1 bottle? Mix it with juice or something? What is the mL per bottle?

I didnt drink it yet. U better read the pph(the section about N and in particular N in peru (halatal))

 

[HD72]

I envy those who have access to Nembutal, they are fortunate to me as it really does sound like the best way to cease existing on our own terms. It must be such a relief having N.

As usual if u have money u can find peace. Be it a home help if u r sick better drs. The rest of us who are poor and/or disabled are left to suffer. Wouldn't it be wonderful to find someone who cared enough to try to get things like this to people who need it desperately but who are too disabled to help themselves. There are no Robinhoods in this day and age. Everyone for himself. Kinda sad. Glad u got what u need. But it's a reminder to those of us left here in agony that nothing will change. Ever.

 

[P@in]

Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

You can try, but they just updated it. And you kinda need to be a member of "Exit International", i suppose.

 

[Thalassa]

Thank you for the information and congratulations! In answer to your question, no, I wouldn't tell Exit International. They will put it in their book and ruin things for everyone, including possibly the poor animals that also need it, which is what happened in Thailand. The Thai government overreacted to Exit International putting a specific Thai source in their book, which caused a LOT of N tourism there - and last I heard, the Thai government had completely banned N - even for veterinarians.

If anything, I would edit out the name of that town from your posts and tell people to PM you for the name. And I would do it as soon as possible because I have no doubt that Exit International monitors this board. They got the Thai source (a particular vet supply store) from Topix back in the 2000s. I know this because I was on Topix at the time and saw the post about the specific vet supply store and even spoke to the guy who posted the info. But Exit International never let on that they were there. (And no, I didn't go to Thailand. I was too disabled and too scared of getting caught bringing it back, even if I could go.)

Anyway, congrats again!

 

[voyager]

Agree with Thalassa here. Don't know about their members, but Nitschke has made an originally good cause into a business. There was an interesting thread on some very dubious practices (!) of his a few years back. Without the thread though I don't wanna say more (maybe someone remembers the one and bookmarked it). But one thing one hears time and time again is that it's really just about money and selling cheap products at an overpriced tag. The peacefulness of some of his newer ideas has also been put into question. They dont want people under 50 (what kind of criterium is that anyway) and don't want to work with this forum, even reporting it for breach of copyright and more (see down below). If I'm out of line here Mods, feel free to edit it.

Someone is bound to contact you, but you offered us this information for free and traveled at your own expense and time, so why should they put it behind a paywall and make money of it and get the sources shut down in doing so? Probably best not to share (all) your sources so someone else has a chance in getting some.

Exit has also, in the past, written to the media (eg.BBC) to encourage them to focus on Sanctioned Suicide and use the power of the media to have them taken down, permanently. We have issued more take-down notices that we can count.

Edit: Fuck em!

 

[cosifantutti]

So i went to peru a month ago, following the instructions of the PPH.
i managed to buy 9 bottles of halatal in peru. Here are the details:
Lima and Cusco are 2 cities in Peru. I managed to buy it in both cities.
I basicly followed the instractions in the PPH about gaining halatal in peru. But since i seccessfully bought it two weeks ago i have more updated and specific information:
in Lima its much harder to get, and 20-30 vet- stores turned me down before i got it (the person who sold it to me did it secretlly and outside of the store, so i dont know the exact store i got it from in Lima. In Cusco the situation is different, u can buy halatal in Cusco OTC very easily, the sellers didnt asked me questions in cusco, and i managed to buy it there in 3 different stores (all of them in the same street).

Hope this information will help some of you find peace. This site helped me a lot. If someone has more questions for me you can just PM me or (even better so other members can see) ask here in the thread:)
Btw, do u think i should send this information to the pph?

So you've bought it, hidden it. Will you go back to Peru to take it

 

[roguetrader]

I am not 100% certain, but from what I've heard, colombia might be another location tp acquire the holy grail.

 

[oneeyed]

Congrats. I wonder if you can put it in a water bottle say to customs (if they ask) it's coolaid lol.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Thank you for the information and congratulations! In answer to your question, no, I wouldn't tell Exit International. They will put it in their book and ruin things for everyone, including possibly the poor animals that also need it, which is what happened in Thailand. The Thai government overreacted to Exit International putting a specific Thai source in their book, which caused a LOT of N tourism there - and last I heard, the Thai government had completely banned N - even for veterinarians.

If anything, I would edit out the name of that town from your posts and tell people to PM you for the name. And I would do it as soon as possible because I have no doubt that Exit International monitors this board. They got the Thai source (a particular vet supply store) from Topix back in the 2000s. I know this because I was on Topix at the time and saw the post about the specific vet supply store and even spoke to the guy who posted the info. But Exit International never let on that they were there. (And no, I didn't go to Thailand. I was too disabled and too scared of getting caught bringing it back, even if I could go.)

Anyway, congrats again!

Philip Nitschke had reliable Nembutal sources in the PPH for at least 15 years, probably longer . the last Nembutal sources 2 I've seen here from 2018-2022 N from A and N from D were from Philip Nitschke. imo it was the New york times article that got rid of N from D.

PN also brought forth the SN method which is now being restricted by news orgs, pro-lifers etc.

He also put a lot of methods in the PPH and now is working on sarco

imo PN , Kenneth law , dr kevorkian , dignitas the only people in history and in the world now of 8 billion to stick out their neck and produce a way out of torture for people suffering. in this anti-suicide world even just saying words about pro-choice is enough to get a person in trouble. imo they are heros for taking such risks and producing solutions . they are for the right to die. and pn has said on Dr. phil he is for the right to die for any adult over 18.

People like PN are smart inventors and super hard working and productive and could've made a different sucessfull profitable business that was approved by the the anti-suicide state instead of doing so much for the right to die.

And he did the over 50 thing so the news orgs and pro-lifers won't go after him for "killing the children" like they did to kenneth law. That is until they come up with another fake study saying the brain is not fully formed until age 60 and he's killing 50 year old children. I'm sure the news orgs thought of going after him more but seeing all of them are over 50 know that wouldn't sell on the outrage meter to the public

The media still refer to PN as dr Death as they did to Dr . kevorkian who they put in prison :
https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/australian-dr-death-demonstrate-suicide-6119895

https://twitter.com/philipnitschke?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

 

[Gonnerr]

Nice , cuzco is not that far from macchu picchu , you can visit a wonderful place and die peacefully after.

 

[Ernest1964]

Congrats. I wonder if you can put it in a water bottle say to customs (if they ask) it's coolaid lol.

I used to live in Mexico and have helped a couple of people buy N from Tijuana (location and translation help). It is very easy to buy a bottle of tequila there and either drink it all or dump it out and replace the tequila with the contents of the two bottles of N. Doesn't everyone who travels to Mexico bring back a bottle of tequila? It did not attract any attention at all walking it across the border in a day bag, the border agents see bottles of tequila many many times a day in the x-ray machines.

 

[LittleBlackCat]

Wouldn't opening the bottle and transferring it to another allow air to get inside and destroy the product? This is (one of) my concerns ..

 

[loopdaloop]

Wouldn't opening the bottle and transferring it to another allow air to get inside and destroy the product? This is (one of) my concerns ..

He didn't open them or get them through the airport