UK trying to close SS - explains police checks

[lamy's sacred sleep]

fuck ofcom

 

[axab43]

So is there a way to get round this if we live in the UK and this site is banned. I have a VPN, will that allow me to access this site?

 

[lamy's sacred sleep]

So is there a way to get round this if we live in the UK and this site is banned. I have a VPN, will that allow me to access this site?

a vpn should be enough

Brits, just get Tor. It's free so no need to pay for a VPN.

or tor

 

[SVEN]

i'm not from the uk but bbc can go fuck themselves

I am, and they most certainly can!

 

[axab43]

a vpn should be enough


or tor

Are you sure that will be enough:? Having bad mental ill health, this site actually provides space to talk about things no one else will talk about. A breathing space. UK trying to shut it down while the UK mental health services send out crises teams, threaten hospitalisation if you even mention suicide. Almost like a threat. It is getting ridiculous now. And the Government at the same time talking about mental ill health as if you can recover from it as easily as the common cold.

If the BBC is reading this, don't ban the whole site and push people into desperate measures on their own! That is just cruel and further isolating people when they are isolated enough, being suicidal already!

 

[lamy's sacred sleep]

Are you sure that will be enough:? Having bad mental ill health, this site actually provides space to talk about things no one else will talk about. A breathing space. UK trying to shtu it down while the UK mental health services send out crises teams, threaten hospitalisation if you even mention suicide. Almost like a threat. It is getting ridiculous now. And the Government at the same time talking about mental ill health as if you can recover from it as easily as the common cold.

If the BBC is reading this, don't ban the whole site and push people into desperate measures on their own! That is just cruel and further isolating people when they are isolated enough, being suicidal already!

i've had this site be blocked while out and about, (using mobile data)
it wasn't blocked when i used a vpn
so I hope it's enough

 

[axab43]

i've had this site be blocked while out and about, (using mobile data)
it wasn't blocked when i used a vpn
so I hope it's enough

Thanks. I will make sure I keep the vpn then.

 

[frommolecules2stars]

Was expecting this due to the welfare check posts. Did anyone here interact with Vlad? What was he like? I would like to know about the real him, not the propaganda tool they are forcing him to be.

God I would be so pissed if my ctb was used to discredit this site. Luckily he is not here to see this. They'll still keep disrespecting the dead though irregardless.

 

[HarryCobean]

Well, that's finally given me the push to install Tor.

 

[nevermeant2b]

I'm from the uk. And disabled, they plan to stop our help through social security so that time comes when I can't support my self because they have taken my life line away I will be ctb

 

[HouseofMortok]

To the BBC spies and just incase, paedophiles reading this. (just to freshly remind you what your are).

Those poor souls seeked to end their lives because their parents and peers throughout their lives failed them no doubt as well as constant, ever changing complex societal pressures, my parents and peers failed me, they still are failing me, that includes you NHS and its staff. AND IT IS NOT this websites fault I'm here, it's those failures not being held accountable. To start the healing process, we need to tackle why we ended up on SaSu, we need those that failed us to be held under a spotlight and held accountable for their actions and "inaction" of our suffering, while you continue to avoid this and masquerade as perverse saviours, lives will be lost regardless of a website. Because as usual, there's no tackling or true honest discussion of the root causes.

No one this century needs a website to put ideas together. Exposed to a popular family friendly pirate themed film, I saw someone being hung, so blaming a website is just utter mental gymnastic garbage, that, why are we not infact holding you upto mental capacity standards for reasoning?

With your ways of thinking, I'm surprised you're safe enough to operate a toaster. Let alone hold a job and dictate the cause of our suffering to the masses. Fuckin' vultures. Collaborators is what you are. You conspire with the sides that obscure and hide the truth, which by default increases suicidility in society.

Maybe some members should scaremonger them, hey mods/admin, can you see their IP your end? See what dungeon they're operating from.

Did you know BBC, that you could go under cover, to very easily accessible instagram and other platforms where drugs are sold and posted via Royal Mail. Did you know, you likely have articles, how drugs and crime destroys families and youth are usually targetted and groomed. If someone kills themselves, is this site to blame, or that network you didn't infiltrate, that you could of protected alot of non suicidal children from being A) fucked up from drugs B) Exposed to extreme violence C) Stabbed/Killed D) Suicide out of desperate from drug debt.

Let's just avoid who's accountable for that realm going on so easily under your nose shall we. But oh noeeees an evil website with educational information, suppose Amberleaf are responsible for lung cancer and the resulting death, quick, pitch forks! Where are they? This website didn't advertise itself to me either. Guess what? Tobacco advertises its death to you, ok not so much anymore with regulation, but why not just ban it if it causes death, because banning the site, you claim will save lives.. So by your own logic, you best get outcrying for tobacco to be banned.

Oh right, Jimmy Saville happened under your nose as well, you's went along with it, until you couldn't. Only sorry you got caught. Your corporation has no where near paid the price for that, considering all the other violations your staff have committed against innocent souls.

Is BBC responsible for hiring and putting an unsafe person with children? Yes, you put them at risk. Saville doesn't get to the nations kids without the BBC, BBC doesn't make money and opportunity from the nations kids without Savilles TV persona..

Fancy being ok, morally, doing news damage control instead of owning up and saying yep, we gone fucked up with that guy. Biggest tell in the game that they never act alone in that industry.

/rant.

 

[fadinggirl]

This makes me so angry. This and the assisted dying bill being pilloried (there are admitted issues with the bill but I almost wonder if they are deliberate additions to stop it from going through). My home was raided a couple of days ago and my SN seized, and now they are trying to take away any option to even discuss this stuff. This DOES NOT HELP US. It just means more people are going to suffer needlessly to oblige the ghoulish agenda of the pro-life brigade.

are u in the uk? how awful:(

 

[ignorableaurochs]

are u in the uk? how awful:(

Yes I am in the UK

 

[lucyanne]

Blame is the key word here.

People want to blame someone, to point fingers and say 'it was them' to see that blame take form and in their mind get justice.

I don't blame them for it it's a human reaction and I can respect that even if that action causes harm and still hold that harm accountable.

Loss and grief present in so many ways but a common theme is blame and commonly that blame is pushed outward until I finds an appropriate target like this community because the other option is holding that blame themselves and while many in part do that it's human nature to want to share that blame with an antagonist thus preserving the self image of someone who tried and failed instead of someone who was oblivious or selfish or lacking compassion.

 

[aiyuxhan]

:/ As someone with chronic pain 24/7, chronic illnesses with no cures, and mental illnesses, this is a space where I feel like I have autonomy.

In a chronic pain support group I'm in, someone said they are going to try and go to Switzerland for assisted death because of the agony they're in.
They have the means and funds to do so.

And there are people like me who are in pain and suffering who aren't approved for euthanasia. I can't afford to even go overseas to try and apply.

So, this site is a godsend for me to have a means to euthanize myself in an affordable way.

If they shut this site down, people will not stop killing themselves, they will just result to more violent and painful suicides :/

 

[Jadeith]

I don't blame them

And i do. Grieving and need for some kind of closure is one thing. Baseless accusations and pushing the blame away from oneself onto others is another.
People don't kill themselves because they found SaSu. They found SaSu because they want to kill themselves. And why they want to do that? Who failed them? I got feeling that those responsible are the ones desperately trying to point fingers at this site.

Similarly, that bullshit about "potential exposure" - are you fuckin' retarded? Or think others to be? You mean to tell me that opening browser and search engine you get SaSu ads all over the place? One CAN'T get "accidentally exposed" to SaSu if one doesn't specifically search for suicide related stuff. And search hard. And why one might look for such things....? Answer won't be pleasant so let's instead point fingers anywhere but real source of problem.

 

[imOK]

It's amazing how *angry* these people get at us wanting to have agency (and in the process, stop being their serfs). If they'd be this pushy and invasive about some genuine problems they'd probably cease existing. Is it really all about control?

How about solving some of the real problems that makes some people so desperate that ending their life is the only way to not prolong suffering? How about offering the people that then still want to choose freely when and under which terms they want to go legal ways to go with dignity without being suffocated with red tape or treated like maniacs and criminals?

Nah, probably just easier to bully everyone with your gov-approved thugs, huh?

 

[Pluto]

 

[peanutsandjelly]

So in the BBC article, the author writes:

He left a note for his mother which read: "Please do your best in closing that website for anyone else."

There is no further context given for that statement, but it seems incredibly unbelievable. If the son truly wanted to close the site, wouldn't they have done it before they went away? Wouldn't they have enlisted their parent's help while they were still here? It makes absolutely zero sense for someone to write that in their farewell to begin with, especially to their parents.

It's far more likely that the parents are stretching their son's words, if not outright lying. On the wild chance that they aren't stretching the truth, and the son really did want to destroy the very resources he used himself, they are still using him for their own agenda like some of kind of scapegoat for a crusade. The parents aren't looking to reduce harm, they're looking for vengeance. They're looking to hurt others.

Maybe they should blame themselves for causing their son so much pain in the first place - so much pain that he was determined enough to take his own life for relief.

 

[2messdup]

The BBC have been exposed a number of times for amoral behaviour, and stretching/bending the truth to support their own agenda. There is nothing new in the BBC making the story up to fit their purpose (BBC there are no children on this site and if they were they would be reported and removed/banned instantly). I was far more disappointed that the Samaritans helpline, the ones who won't call emergency services unless you ask them to, while they sit with you on the phone while you ctb and until you are unconscious, have put a statement on their website saying they support Ofcom's investigation. I've spoken to one of their volunteers about the benefits of this site and the lies that have been told, and asked them to feed it back higher. I've also emailed a complaint to Samaritans. I've pointed out that their policy of not calling emergency services could be similarly attacked as aiding suicide.
Of the newspapers that reported about Ofcom's investigation, the story attracted almost no comments online and was swiftly relegated to way down the search list because the public aren't interested, even though the BBC lies were repeated in the articles.
The UK atm is truly disgusting. They have reduced the share of funding available to mental health services AGAIN, the government constantly attempt to demonise people with mental health problems, saying they are over-diagnosed and amounts of money spent on people on benefits who have mental health problems, neglecting to mention that many of those are people with physical and often painful problems who are claiming for both conditions. They are essentially removing all benefits from people with mental health problems who are unable to work, giving them the choice of forcing themselves to try to work (there have already been suicides for this reason alone), exist without an income at all until they starve to death (that has happened too), or just ctb from the fear of what's to come. People, even if they attempt ctb, are not hospitalised unless a severe risk to themselves or others (and often even then often not). Suicidal children who have been to A&E after attempts are left with no help for up to 2 years. And meanwhile the narrative continues daily that only working people deserve anything. All the rest are feckless weak lazy scroungers.
I personally feel under constant attack in the UK, despite working very hard for decades, and through every kind of abuse. And now they want to remove my source of company, community and support.

 

[axab43]

The BBC have been exposed a number of times for amoral behaviour, and stretching/bending the truth to support their own agenda. There is nothing new in the BBC making the story up to fit their purpose (BBC there are no children on this site and if they were they would be reported and removed/banned instantly). I was far more disappointed that the Samaritans helpline, the ones who won't call emergency services unless you ask them to, while they sit with you on the phone while you ctb and until you are unconscious, have put a statement on their website saying they support Ofcom's investigation. I've spoken to one of their volunteers about the benefits of this site and the lies that have been told, and asked them to feed it back higher. I've also emailed a complaint to Samaritans. I've pointed out that their policy of not calling emergency services could be similarly attacked as aiding suicide.
Of the newspapers that reported about Ofcom's investigation, the story attracted almost no comments online and was swiftly relegated to way down the search list because the public aren't interested, even though the BBC lies were repeated in the articles.
The UK atm is truly disgusting. They have reduced the share of funding available to mental health services AGAIN, the government constantly attempt to demonise people with mental health problems, saying they are over-diagnosed and amounts of money spent on people on benefits who have mental health problems, neglecting to mention that many of those are people with physical and often painful problems who are claiming for both conditions. They are essentially removing all benefits from people with mental health problems who are unable to work, giving them the choice of forcing themselves to try to work (there have already been suicides for this reason alone), exist without an income at all until they starve to death (that has happened too), or just ctb from the fear of what's to come. People, even if they attempt ctb, are not hospitalised unless a severe risk to themselves or others (and often even then often not). Suicidal children who have been to A&E after attempts are left with no help for up to 2 years. And meanwhile the narrative continues daily that only working people deserve anything. All the rest are feckless weak lazy scroungers.
I personally feel under constant attack in the UK, despite working very hard for decades, and through every kind of abuse. And now they want to remove my source of company, community and support.

I know how you feel on all of this. There is a lot of outrage at the government's attempt to take away support from the most vulnerable people in society. But they still insist on going forward with it. So much pressure on those already struggling could really push people to ctb, but the government don't seem to care about that, though it has been spoken of in the House of Commons.

Can you get a vpn or get the Tor browser? As you said, this place at least allows people some companionship or understanding from people who feel the same way. Even for those who never say anything or contribute much, at least we know we are not alone in how we feel.

 

[betternever2havbeen]

Blame is the key word here.

People want to blame someone, to point fingers and say 'it was them' to see that blame take form and in their mind get justice.

I don't blame them for it it's a human reaction and I can respect that even if that action causes harm and still hold that harm accountable.

Loss and grief present in so many ways but a common theme is blame and commonly that blame is pushed outward until I finds an appropriate target like this community because the other option is holding that blame themselves and while many in part do that it's human nature to want to share that blame with an antagonist thus preserving the self image of someone who tried and failed instead of someone who was oblivious or selfish or lacking compassion.

I understand their anger and you're right about grieving and wanting to blame something. But the BBC should not be indulging them in this as it's so one-sided. No journalist wants to question grieving family members which leaves them free to say whatever they want without proof. No one really cares about us or what losing this site would mean for some of us. They only care when we're dead and they can spin us as vulnerable victims of this evil site. For the family members to carry this much hate and anger towards the people who run it who have their own struggles is just so wrong and unnecessary. For all anyone knows the same result would've happened without this site (and probably by a much more painful method) but that's not something they can face because that puts the action on the person who CTB and they just can't accept it was their choice.

 

[2messdup]

I know how you feel on all of this. There is a lot of outrage at the government's attempt to take away support from the most vulnerable people in society. But they still insist on going forward with it. So much pressure on those already struggling could really push people to ctb, but the government don't seem to care about that, though it has been spoken of in the House of Commons.

Can you get a vpn or get the Tor browser? As you said, this place at least allows people some companionship or understanding from people who feel the same way. Even for those who never say anything or contribute much, at least we know we are not alone in how we feel.

Tor is downloaded now.