Discussion UK police

[MsMaudlin]

If a person commits suicide at home in the UK, will the police take their phone or handbag?
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[SpottedPanda]

The phone seems likely, the handbag less so. The contents of the handbag on the other hand may well be searched for clues/evidence

 

[autumnal]

Phone and computer, quite likely.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Yes young lady they will take everything and examine it until they come to the conclusion there are no suspicious circumstances surrounding your death.

 

[MsMaudlin]

Will they search the house?

 

[Jumper Geo]

Will they search the house?

Yes, so make sure it's clean, it will be part of there investigation the house will be cordoned of to everyone they will go through everything to find evidence it wasn't a murder and they are nosy bastards anyway.

Clear out anything embarrassing to your family or your porn collection, make sure you make sure the rubbish has been collected before you consider ctb as they will go through that as well.

Cheers

Geo

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Phone and computer, quite likely.

Yes, so make sure it's clean, it will be part of there investigation the house will be cordoned of to everyone they will go through everything to find evidence it wasn't a murder and they are nosy bastards anyway.

Clear out anything embarrassing to your family or your porn collection, make sure you make sure the rubbish has been collected before you consider ctb as they will go through that as well.

Cheers

Geo

Do they do this everwhere also in Denmark? I just assumed if I shot myself they can easily identify that it was my registered gun and there are several methods to determine the gun was fired by me point blank also suicide notes in my handwriting, shouldn´t all of this be sufficient enough evidence of a suicide?

It doesn´t make sense to me if they would need to go through all my stuff, search history and external harddrive.

 

[SpottedPanda]

Do they do this everwhere also in Denmark? I just assumed if I shot myself they can easily identify that it was my registered gun and there are several methods to determine the gun was fired by me point blank also suicide notes in my handwriting, shouldn´t all of this be sufficient enough evidence of a suicide?

It doesn´t make sense to me if they would need to go through all my stuff, search history and external harddrive.

Something to take into account is whether or not someone pressured or goaded you into it, which is a crime, as far as I'm aware. So there'd be justification to search your belongings

 

[TheGoodGuy]

Something to take into account is whether or not someone pressured or goaded you into it, which is a crime, as far as I'm aware. So there'd be justification to search your belongings

I am sure they won´t, at most they might look at my goodbye videos where I explain all my problems which should be suffient enough to determine it as a suicide.

 

[Fish Face]

They just interested in crime. Suicide is not a crime. They have better things to do than search the homes of suicidal people, such as killing black people.

 

[MaybeSoon]

I think as long as it's obvious enough they don't search your home. Will be different with suspicious circumstances.

Yes, so make sure it's clean, it will be part of there investigation the house will be cordoned of to everyone they will go through everything to find evidence it wasn't a murder and they are nosy bastards anyway.

Clear out anything embarrassing to your family or your porn collection, make sure you make sure the rubbish has been collected before you consider ctb as they will go through that as well.

Cheers

Geo

They didn't go to these extremes to my old neighbour who hung himself.

 

[Soulless_Angel]

Fucking nosey cunts! Delete everything, wipe everything, I start to in March then lockdown happened,
Actually better idea...< fucking lose your phone before you CTB!!! I think mines still in an estery some where

 

[Jumper Geo]

Do they do this everwhere also in Denmark? I just assumed if I shot myself they can easily identify that it was my registered gun and there are several methods to determine the gun was fired by me point blank also suicide notes in my handwriting, shouldn´t all of this be sufficient enough evidence of a suicide?

It doesn´t make sense to me if they would need to go through all my stuff, search history and external harddrive.

I understand what your saying in the UK technically they need a search warrant to search a property but not the room where the body was found, they can remove everything in room as part of a murder investigation even if it's a suicide. Police are expert manipulators if they interview a bereaved next of kin and they didn't give permission they will accuse them of hiding something and tell them they are treating this as a suicide but if you don't give permission we will look at upgrading this to a murder investigation, what would you do.

While this Police Officer is keeping you busy with a cup of tea and sympathetically questioning you, the other officers are snooping around the rest of the house flat for anything interesting or illegal.

All your personal items will be taken for investigation even external hard drives as they want to see if you have anything illegal on them and if they can find out a reason why you ctb, threatened, drug dealing, blackmailed, sick images, video's of miners, false bank accounts the list is endless.

It's quite simple if you don't want anyone to find something embarrassing to you or your family it will be best to destroy and dispose of it well in advance of you ctb

Cheers

Geo

 

[SpottedPanda]

I'm not even going to bother clearing my hard drive or search history. Nothing illegal on there, nothing incriminating to anyone, and in my view, nothing immoral

 

[TheGoodGuy]

I understand what your saying in the UK technically they need a search warrant to search a property but not the room where the body was found, they can remove everything in room as part of a murder investigation even if it's a suicide. Police are expert manipulators if they interview a bereaved next of kin and they didn't give permission they will accuse them of hiding something and tell them they are treating this as a suicide but if you don't give permission we will look at upgrading this to a murder investigation, what would you do.

While this Police Officer is keeping you busy with a cup of tea and sympathetically questioning you, the other officers are snooping around the rest of the house flat for anything interesting or illegal.

All your personal items will be taken for investigation even external hard drives as they want to see if you have anything illegal on them and if they can find out a reason why you ctb, threatened, drug dealing, blackmailed, sick images, video's of miners, false bank accounts the list is endless.

It's quite simple if you don't want anyone to find something embarrassing to you or your family it will be best to destroy and dispose of it well in advance of you ctb

Cheers

Geo

I highly doubt they will go to these lenghts over a suicide since it would waste to resources "just" for a suicide it´s even been revealed by the police in Denmark that some stabbings arent even investigated if the victim didn´t die because they don´t have the resources and many times police don´t even respond to burglaries.

And I am not going to kill myself in my room I will do it outside it´s cleaner that way and I will be found faster.

 

[Jumper Geo]

I'm not even going to bother clearing my hard drive or search history. Nothing illegal on there, nothing incriminating to anyone, and in my view, nothing immoral

Same as me my friend.

 

[MaybeSoon]

I'm not even going to bother clearing my hard drive or search history. Nothing illegal on there, nothing incriminating to anyone, and in my view, nothing immoral

Same here, I'm just worried about anything leading back to this place, as it WILL be blamed. Apparently people with a mental disorder are incapable or making their own decisions which is complete bullshit and quite frankly insulting.

 

[SpottedPanda]

Same here, I'm just worried about anything leading back to this place, as it WILL be blamed. Apparently people with a mental disorder are incapable or making their own decisions which is complete bullshit and quite frankly insulting.

As long as there's no direct encouragement or coercion, it should be fine. I'm sure various authorities are aware that websites like this exist, as well as the PPH and Final Exit. It'd be a small drop in the pond, I believe, and difficult to enforce against

 

[MaybeSoon]

As long as there's no direct encouragement or coercion, it should be fine. I'm sure various authorities are aware that websites like this exist, as well as the PPH and Final Exit. It'd be a small drop in the pond, I believe, and difficult to enforce against

I agree, that's the logical way of looking at it but this website was blamed for Callie Lewis' death. Her note was seemingly ignored which was pretty self explanatory.

 

[SpottedPanda]

I agree, that's the logical way of looking at it but this website was blamed for Callie Lewis' death. Her note was seemingly ignored which was pretty self explanatory.

She's the exact reason I found this forum. I Googled 'suicide in the news', found her story, then searched for the forum she used

 

[Jumper Geo]

That's similar to the UK but when it involves a death it is more serious and a proper investigation needs to take place Coroners Report they need to determine a cause of death and if it's suicide if there was any external factors if a suicide happens in a family they will ask the family about what they searched for online to see if they researched anything harmful.

Here is an interesting website which may answer your questions what is involved and how seriously they take a death.

WARNING THERE ARE PICTURES OF SUICIDES

Spoiler: Death Scene Investigation

Chapter: Death Scene Investigation from the Viewpoint of Forensic Medicine Expert

Open access peer-reviewed chapter

www.intechopen.com

Cheers

Geo

 

[Winter_Flower]

Yes, so make sure it's clean, it will be part of there investigation the house will be cordoned of to everyone they will go through everything to find evidence it wasn't a murder and they are nosy bastards anyway.

Clear out anything embarrassing to your family or your porn collection, make sure you make sure the rubbish has been collected before you consider ctb as they will go through that as well.

Cheers

Geo

This is why I won't be ctb anytime soon as my house always looks like it's been burgled Oh the shame...........they can find me dead but not in a shambles of a mess. Skip being ordered next week x

 

[autumnal]

Even if a scene appears to be an obvious suicide, police usually need to gather evidence to review later in case any new information comes to light. They can't risk making assumptions at the start that may later prove incorrect.

Police also gather evidence which may be supplied to the coroner. A coroner's investigation is usually much broader than a police one, and doesn't focus on criminal aspects but instead looks at the cause of death and relevant factors contributing to the death that should be addressed to reduce future deaths. So internet history can be relevant to determining if certain websites were used to purchase suicide drugs, for example, and whether access to those sites should be restricted in future.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Even if a scene appears to be an obvious suicide, police usually need to gather evidence to review later in case any new information comes to light. They can't risk making assumptions at the start that may later prove incorrect.

Police also gather evidence which may be supplied to the coroner. A coroner's investigation is usually much broader than a police one, and doesn't focus on criminal aspects but instead looks at the cause of death and relevant factors contributing to the death that should be addressed to reduce future deaths. So internet history can be relevant to determining if certain websites were used to purchase suicide drugs, for example, and whether access to those sites should be restricted in future.

Police treat every death as murder people seem to think if you are a suicide it's an easy investigation but they treat it as murder that's why they check all you devices until the investigation proves otherwise but they need to investigate to comply with the corona's report, which is an extensive investigation don't be fooled in the UK the coroner don't take any shit they are emieminent lawyers and advanced medical professionals and the Police will be sacked, (Don't fuck with them) they are there to question and evaluate any information to get to the truth ,the Police know not to fuck with them like any relationship so in there investigation they will get whatever they can to satisfy them.

Edit: Why do you think there has never been a mistake of a suicide with a natural death in the UK, UK Coroners would be done for drink driving until they mention who they are lol sorry for bothering Sir/Madam yes that is the power of these people more than the PM. The Police are more frightened of these people than it will ever be known. If the Police make a mistake they will destroy them just look at Quincy, lol Yes I just shared something I shouldn't they are above the law who will sack Police Officers on the spot, and many of you are asking yourself where's the source, my aucle was a coroner and he drank and drove and never got a conviction and he always said it was down to his good looks.

Cheers

Geo

 

[FriendofDeath]

I am mentioning my experience based in the states, but they did go through my house, they did take video, they took a phone and other items and left me outside. The officers and coroner both spoke to me for a short time. At least this is as much as I remember, because I was in shock and had lost my voice. I'm guessing perceived suicides have to be investigated because there are always those that are not as they appear.