Two doctors had suicide

[Yomyom]

Not something new, but now I saw theirs methods.
One used gun and the other hang himself In the operating room.
I really wonder what prevented from them to use drugs.

 

[Mr. ‘K so?]

Not something new, but now I saw theirs methods.
One used gun and the other hang himself In the operating room.
I really wonder what prevented from them to use drugs.

Doctors can't write themselves prescriptions. One would have to get it from another doctor, who may notice what they're planning, or steal them, which would involve law enforcement and probably get some people fired. The planning would be a nightmare, I imagine.

 

[Yomyom]

Doctors can't write themselves prescriptions. One would have to get it from another doctor, who may notice what they're planning, or steal them, which would involve law enforcement and probably get some people fired. The planning would be a nightmare, I imagine.

They have access to drugs in the hospital, they don't really need prescription to get it.
It's illegal, but very possible

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

the other hang himself In the operating room

holy shit that's gruesome, do you have link to the news about this?

 

[Yomyom]

holy shit that's gruesome, do you have link to the news about this?

The shooting

חדשות באר שבע והנגב | רשימת חדשות

www.branza.co.il

The hanging

טרגדיה בבאר שבע: מנהל מחלקה בסורוקה שם קץ לחייו בחדרי הניתוח - וואלה חדשות

ד"ר אלכס ברזובסקי, מנהל היחידה לכירורגיה פלסטית, נמצא תלוי ולצידו מכתב, בו האשים את ההסתדרות הרפואית על שמנעו ממנו להמשיך להכשיר מתמחים במחלקה. "הוא היה מנתח מוכשר, מסור ונאמן למטופליו. החיפוש אחר שלמות הכריע אותו", ספדו לו. מזכ"ל הר"י: "כולנו מזועזעים"

news.walla.co.il

The articles in Hebrew, You can use Google translate

 

[mesohappy]

Coulda been their own twisted sense of honor,coulda been knowledge/pressure,maybe desperation/impulsive..These folks kill themselves quick despite what they say..Or you believe.

Rest in peace to the doctors..And medical professionals.Takes a long time to get into that profession,then some take it seriously...

 

[Mr. ‘K so?]

They have access to drugs in the hospital, they don't really need prescription to get it.
It's illegal, but very possible

I can't speak for your country or any outside of the US, but hospitals here keep all medication in a locked room reminiscent of a police armory. They only have access to write a prescription or to get meds for a patient, even then the meds aren't handled by them.

 

[Shakespear's Brother]

The hanging

Thanks

Wow, some shitty 'victim blaming' in that article, too.

 

[Yomyom]

I can't speak for your country or any outside of the US, but hospitals here keep all medication in a locked room reminiscent of a police armory. They only have access to write a prescription or to get meds for a patient, even then the meds aren't handled by them.

The best job for suicide is probably a pharmacist, but in very small pharmacy

 

[LMLN]

The best job for suicide is probably a pharmacist, but in very small pharmacy

I read a story about a pharmacist that had access to strong F patches. He put them all over himself and ctb at his home.

Spoiler: Article

Druggist used pain patches to end his life / Walnut Creek...

Despondent that he was facing punishment for a fatal meningitis outbreak last year that...

www.sfgate.com

 

[Mr. ‘K so?]

The best job for suicide is probably a pharmacist, but in very small pharmacy

Again, idk about over there, but here they've kept a pretty tight lock on pharmacies and the like since people figured out the oxycodone and Percocet get you fucked up. Johnson & Johnson was ordered to pay $800m usd for their part

 

[JSRF]

I read a story about a pharmacist that had access to strong F patches. He put them all over himself and ctb at his home.

Spoiler: Article

Druggist used pain patches to end his life / Walnut Creek...

Despondent that he was facing punishment for a fatal meningitis outbreak last year that...

www.sfgate.com

damn, this sounds like the potential new gold standard for CTB.

 

[Jumper Geo]

Not something new, but now I saw theirs methods.
One used gun and the other hang himself In the operating room.
I really wonder what prevented from them to use drugs.

Yes it baffled me until I spoke to a junior hospital doctor in the UK and asked him if he could get the good stuff but he said it's impossible they are so closely guarded, I suppose he's right as we have had a few mass murderers working in the UK hospitals, killing patients.

 

[one4all]

Yes it baffled me until I spoke to a junior hospital doctor in the UK and asked him if he could get the good stuff but he said it's impossible they are so closely guarded, I suppose he's right as we have had a few mass murderers working in the UK hospitals, killing patients.

Wouldn't be the first time someone that worked in the medical field was a serial killer

 

[HadEnough1974]

Not something new, but now I saw theirs methods.
One used gun and the other hang himself In the operating room.
I really wonder what prevented from them to use drugs.

Because they know that drugs are not as effective.

 

[Yomyom]

Because they know that drugs are not as effective.

That's not true, fentanyl is very effective, if you know to inject morphine that's also effective as well.

 

[TAW122]

Doctors can't write themselves prescriptions. One would have to get it from another doctor, who may notice what they're planning, or steal them, which would involve law enforcement and probably get some people fired. The planning would be a nightmare, I imagine.

Ah I figured, and that makes sense. I think the organizations in charge of doctors as well as the legal system itself figured that doctors writing themselves prescriptions would be highly abusable (not limited to CTB'ing alone but other situations) so they closed such a loophole. Seems like even doctors need to get other methods if/should they choose to CTB themselves and while they could "illegally" acquire such means, it is very risky as it would result in legal issues as well as professional consequences (revocation of license and/or sanctions, fines, and other penalties).

 

[Aliali1992]

I'm a doctor in Germany i can show my card and buy my self any drug EXCEPT the good stuff...and in hospitals each tablet or milliliter is counted and registered

 

[Mr. ‘K so?]

Ah I figured, and that makes sense. I think the organizations in charge of doctors as well as the legal system itself figured that doctors writing themselves prescriptions would be highly abusable (not limited to CTB'ing alone but other situations) so they closed such a loophole. Seems like even doctors need to get other methods if/should they choose to CTB themselves and while they could "illegally" acquire such means, it is very risky as it would result in legal issues as well as professional consequences (revocation of license and/or sanctions, fines, and other penalties).

Plus it messes with the life insurance left behind for the family of the person in question died commuting a criminal act.

@Jumper Geo put it the beat way though. It's put under a heavy lock because they know what it can do, and they have to deal with people trying to scam drugs everyday. They'd probably double their six figures if they were able to check out and sell drugs on the street

 

[Aliali1992]

Another story... two married dentists in Germany wanted to commit suicide along with taking the lives of their son and daughter...the children died, they survived.....the method was CO
m.bild.de/regional/frankfurt/frankfurt-aktuell/zahnarzt-paar-bringt-eigene-kinder-um-und-ueberlebt-suizid-versuch-57020532,view=amp.bildMobile.html

 

[SugarbushMtn]

The most honroable way to ctb, IMO, would be to walk into an Emergency Room with a gun and your organ donor card in your hand and shoot yourself in the head..Tough to do..

 

[terry_a_davis]

About accessibility of drugs in uk hospitals for staff, i've worked in a hospital, and i seem to remember (this was in 07) in the rooms connected directly to the operating theatres was fentanyl and other drugs, i could've just picked some up if i wanted to. I don't know if anyone was monitoring how much was there but it was just sitting there with nobody else around it didn't look like there was much control of it to me.

 

[kamakura]

Stem cell scientist found dead in apparent suicide

A Japanese scientist involved in a scandal over discredited stem cell research has been found dead in an apparent suicide.

www.bbc.com

He killed himself by hanging...a renown biologist working at a large research centre, should have access to chemicals and knowledge to make the process more comfortable..why why

 

[Jumper Geo]

About accessibility of drugs in uk hospitals for staff, i've worked in a hospital, and i seem to remember (this was in 07) in the rooms connected directly to the operating theatres was fentanyl and other drugs, i could've just picked some up if i wanted to. I don't know if anyone was monitoring how much was there but it was just sitting there lol it didn't look like there was much control of it to me.

I would love to ctb with fentanyl but they made it much harder to get it was freely available back before they new people was mixing it with heroin the doctors didn't mind prescribing it for all sorts of ailments like a bad back etc. But it's nearly impossible to get now even on the dark web people get traced and arrested, Trump forced China to stop producing it, a ship carrying tons of it was intercepted before reaching Mexico https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/china-fentanyl-ban-yet-to-hamper-mexico-crime-groups/

I'm afraid I missed the bus on fentanyl.

About accessibility of drugs in uk hospitals for staff, i've worked in a hospital, and i seem to remember (this was in 07) in the rooms connected directly to the operating theatres was fentanyl and other drugs, i could've just picked some up if i wanted to. I don't know if anyone was monitoring how much was there but it was just sitting there lol it didn't look like there was much control of it to me.

I would love to ctb with fentanyl but they made it much harder to get it was freely available back before they new people was mixing it with heroin the doctors didn't mind prescribing it for all sorts of ailments like a bad back etc. But it's nearly impossible to get now even on the dark web people get traced and arrested, Trump forced China to stop producing it, a ship carrying tons of it was intercepted before reaching Mexico https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/china-fentanyl-ban-yet-to-hamper-mexico-crime-groups/

I'm afraid I missed the bus on fentanyl.

 

[ManWithNoName]

They have access to drugs in the hospital, they don't really need prescription to get it.
It's illegal, but very possible

That's precisely what I am thinking.

There was a situation back in 2009 where a prominent German billionaire lost all his money. Adolf Merkel was his name, and he owned one of the largest pharmacutical companies in Germany. He carried out cbt. He would have been in a position to access the proper drugs, but instead he jumped in front of a train. Go figure...

 

[terry_a_davis]

I would love to ctb with fentanyl but they made it much harder to get it was freely available back before they new people was mixing it with heroin the doctors didn't mind prescribing it for all sorts of ailments like a bad back etc. But it's nearly impossible to get now even on the dark web people get traced and arrested, Trump forced China to stop producing it, a ship carrying tons of it was intercepted before reaching Mexico https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/china-fentanyl-ban-yet-to-hamper-mexico-crime-groups/

I'm afraid I missed the bus on fentanyl.


I would love to ctb with fentanyl but they made it much harder to get it was freely available back before they new people was mixing it with heroin the doctors didn't mind prescribing it for all sorts of ailments like a bad back etc. But it's nearly impossible to get now even on the dark web people get traced and arrested, Trump forced China to stop producing it, a ship carrying tons of it was intercepted before reaching Mexico https://www.insightcrime.org/news/brief/china-fentanyl-ban-yet-to-hamper-mexico-crime-groups/

I'm afraid I missed the bus on fentanyl.

There was a big pharmacy in the hospital that had controlled access and a small warehouse for bulk drug storage, and in the operating theatre areas was just loose fentanyl and other stuff i never even knew what it was really at the time. May be it's changed since I dunno.

If you're very careful and do your research I believe it still may be possible to get it on the darknet, i've not done this myself but have found seemingly reliable vendors on empire selling it a couple of months ago and have read accounts of others buying it. But I can't say for sure.

 

[Jumper Geo]

There was a big pharmacy in the hospital that had controlled access and a small warehouse for bulk drug storage, and in the operating theatre areas was just loose fentanyl and other stuff i never even knew what it was really at the time. May be it's changed since I dunno.

If you're very careful and do your research I believe you can still get it on the darknet, i've not done this myself but have read accounts of others doing so.

China was prosecuting companies producing it, even in the UK it was in areas where heroin dealers were mixing and selling it on the streets, I was watching documentaries where the supply suddenly stopped, but I reckon I could find it in the USA as the Mexican cartels must still have tons of it hidden or still have contacts in China as they buy in bulk.

Stem cell scientist found dead in apparent suicide

A Japanese scientist involved in a scandal over discredited stem cell research has been found dead in an apparent suicide.

www.bbc.com

He killed himself by hanging...a renown biologist working at a large research centre, should have access to chemicals and knowledge to make the process more comfortable..why why

Very strange so many opportunities to ctb with different more peaceful methods and he chose hanging good question why ?

 

[ManWithNoName]

. Seems like even doctors need to get other methods if/should they choose to CTB themselves and while they could "illegally" acquire such means, it is very risky as it would result in legal issues as well as professional consequences (revocation of license and/or sanctions, fines, and other penalties).

I hear what you're saying, but how can there be consequences if the doctor was able to acquire the drugs and ctb?

 

[Yomyom]

I hear what you're saying, but how can there be consequences if the doctor was able to acquire the drugs and ctb?

Yes, there isn't really consequences on that.
But my guess is they didn't know when to do it, and if they took drugs and in the end regret on that, their career is over.
Just hope that they knew how to use the methods rights

 

[ManWithNoName]

Just hope that they knew how to use the methods rights

If the doctor doesn't know how to use the medication correctly nobody would :)

I've seen Dignitas documentaries and the one to ctb simply takes a drink which puts them in a deep sleep which then makes their heart stop. It does not seem like an involved process, especially for a doctor who would want to use it to check-out.