Trying to prevent suicide is only prolonging suffering

[FuneralCry]

Suicide should always be accepted and respected as a personal decision. To try and prevent this will only ever prolong a persons suffering. Nobody should ever be forced to endure life against their wishes, that is just selfish and cruel. Purposely making it more difficult for people to ctb will just make them more desperate to leave. How delusional must someone be to try and stop someone else ending their suffering. If they want to live then that is fine but they shouldn't force their beliefs onto others and make it so difficult for others to achieve eternal peace. Others should have no right to interfere in ctb plans.

The truth is that suicide could never be wrong. It would be impossible for it to be wrong. Suicide solves all of life's problems. If someone was to leave this world it would remove the cause of all problems in the first place which is life itself. Only the living can suffer, all negative experiences and emotions are only able to be felt by the living and not the dead. And if someones suicide plans were interrupted, all that would be doing is just delaying the inevitable. We only exist just to suffer and deteriorate from old age then die to be forgotten. That's all life is, so if someone wants to leave at a time of their own choosing they should be able to.

There is no real benefit to staying alive, non existence is objectively more preferable as every life has some sort of suffering in it with the chance of things getting much worse at any point. It's beyond terrifying how there is no limit as to how much pain we can feel. To die would prevent all this and I very strongly believe that death is peaceful nonexistence, an eternal sleep where nothing can ever hurt us. But in comparison life is just a tiring unnecessary struggle all for no purpose. Non existence is objectively better.

So therefore suicide should be accepted in society and not be seen as something that is always irrational and must always be prevented. Choosing freedom and peace over a pointless existence where things will just get worse could never be irrational. In my case wanting suicide is the rational response to seeing life for what it really is and escaping this life would be the best thing possible.

 

[just_wanna_die]

Excellent post! I agree with everything you posted. If I didn't know better, I would have thought I wrote it!

"For if there is going to be unhappiness and suffering, the person must also himself
exist at that same time, for the evil to be able to befall him. Since death robs him of this,
preventing the existence of the person for the evils to be heaped upon, you can tell that
there is nothing for us to fear in death, that he who does not exist cannot be unhappy, and
that when immortal death snatches away a mortal life it is no different from never having
been born." ~Lucretius: On the Nature of Things (excerpt) Roman poet, 94-55 BC


"Life was not a valuable gift, but death was.
Life was a fever-dream made up of joys embittered by sorrows, pleasure poisoned by pain;
a dream that was a nightmare-confusion of spasmodic and fleeting delights, ecstasies,
exultations, happinesses, interspersed with long-drawn miseries, griefs, perils, horrors,
disappointments, defeats, humiliations, and despairs -- the heaviest curse devisable by
divine ingenuity; but death was sweet, death was gentle, death was kind; death healed the
bruised spirit and the broken heart, and gave them rest and forgetfulness; death was man's
best friend; when man could endure life no longer, death came and set him free."
~Letters from the Earth, Mark Twain (1909)


"Death may be the greatest of all human blessings" ~Socrates

 

[msci4499]

But the process of suicide is painful and lonely,
that's why you're still alive,
posting the same text over and over again

 

[Cerulea]

Suicide should always be accepted and respected as a personal decision. To try and prevent this will only ever prolong a persons suffering. Nobody should ever be forced to endure life against their wishes, that is just selfish and cruel. Purposely making it more difficult for people to ctb will just make them more desperate to leave. How delusional must someone be to try and stop someone else ending their suffering. If they want to live then that is fine but they shouldn't force their beliefs onto others and make it so difficult for others to achieve eternal peace. Others should have no right to interfere in ctb plans.

The truth is that suicide could never be wrong. It would be impossible for it to be wrong. Suicide solves all of life's problems. If someone was to leave this world it would remove the cause of all problems in the first place which is life itself. Only the living can suffer, all negative experiences and emotions are only able to be felt by the living and not the dead. And if someones suicide plans were interrupted, all that would be doing is just delaying the inevitable. We only exist just to suffer and deteriorate from old age then die to be forgotten. That's all life is, so if someone wants to leave at a time of their own choosing they should be able to.

There is no real benefit to staying alive, non existence is objectively more preferable as every life has some sort of suffering in it with the chance of things getting much worse at any point. It's beyond terrifying how there is no limit as to how much pain we can feel. To die would prevent all this and I very strongly believe that death is peaceful nonexistence, an eternal sleep where nothing can ever hurt us. But in comparison life is just a tiring unnecessary struggle all for no purpose. Non existence is objectively better.

So therefore suicide should be accepted in society and not be seen as something that is always irrational and must always be prevented. Choosing freedom and peace over a pointless existence where things will just get worse could never be irrational. In my case wanting suicide is the rational response to seeing life for what it really is and escaping this life would be the best thing possible.

I'm a firm believer in informed consent. If you have all the variables and facts laid out in front of you, you can make educated decisions that reflect your autonomy. Nature builds a few fail safe measures in to ensure that we carry on long enough, ideally to reproduce. People have applied their own thoughts and lenses to that. And, I'm sure, they really do believe that life is beautiful and worth living. So they do what they can to keep people they care about here. It's a disconnection to how others feel when they don't see the world this way. All of the choices in your life deserve to be your own. I can't help but think about how we could, as a society, really dissolve the desire for people to exit by improving the quality of their lives and creating spaces where they can freely discuss their thoughts. I do agree with you, termination is a ration response to what I've seen during my time here. I'd like to get off the ride now.

 

[Marktheghost]

I think you should write to your MP and ask them to legalize euthanasia, and say what you said here. At least the 1st paragraph.

 

[Darkover]

i'll vote for you to be a members of parliament in england i'm stick to death of this dictatorship we all live whatever happened to freedom

 

[MindFog]

Ending Suffering was never the Top priority of any government. Let alone the kind that people can ignore. It's always improvement or the interest of the rich. It's counterintuitive if they let the "workforce" numbers thin out.

But sometimes I wonder if major religions around the globe do not consider suicide as taboo, will there still be pushback in legalizing euthanasia? I think in someways there always would be, it's just inherent to look at death as bad.

In the end whatever the situation is, restricting/banning peaceful euthnasia should be considered a violation of a person's right to autonomy. We should able to decide how our lives end. And we do but they're just banning the more peaceful options. Pushing people to feel even MORE pain than what they are already feeling. F*cking hypocrites.

 

[AUTIST777]

If the society around us was actually altruistic, they would decide that it's ok for people to end their own life with dignity. We live in a toxic and egoistic society where this is not the case.

 

[Rational man]

You make.interesting points of terms about life and cessation therein . The tragedy of human longevity is his attempt to extend life, thus creating more opportunity for the fragile human to die of awful disease or pitiful old age. More painful still is humans attempt to invent an alternative life beyond here. Only when humans accept death as certain, will we be able to embrace openly, the individuals conscious decision to live or die.

 

[Lost Magic]

Agreed, it is all pointless and futile. I can't wait to end it all, probably this year. It's that bad now.

 

[Ligottian]

Far from bearing the character of a gift, life is much more like a debt. The daily cares and suffering are the interest payments. The principal is discharged at death. And when was the debt contracted? At the begetting.
- Arthur Schopenhauer

 

[HateMyPointlessLife]

Suicide should always be accepted and respected as a personal decision. To try and prevent this will only ever prolong a persons suffering. Nobody should ever be forced to endure life against their wishes, that is just selfish and cruel. Purposely making it more difficult for people to ctb will just make them more desperate to leave. How delusional must someone be to try and stop someone else ending their suffering. If they want to live then that is fine but they shouldn't force their beliefs onto others and make it so difficult for others to achieve eternal peace. Others should have no right to interfere in ctb plans.

The truth is that suicide could never be wrong. It would be impossible for it to be wrong. Suicide solves all of life's problems. If someone was to leave this world it would remove the cause of all problems in the first place which is life itself. Only the living can suffer, all negative experiences and emotions are only able to be felt by the living and not the dead. And if someones suicide plans were interrupted, all that would be doing is just delaying the inevitable. We only exist just to suffer and deteriorate from old age then die to be forgotten. That's all life is, so if someone wants to leave at a time of their own choosing they should be able to.

There is no real benefit to staying alive, non existence is objectively more preferable as every life has some sort of suffering in it with the chance of things getting much worse at any point. It's beyond terrifying how there is no limit as to how much pain we can feel. To die would prevent all this and I very strongly believe that death is peaceful nonexistence, an eternal sleep where nothing can ever hurt us. But in comparison life is just a tiring unnecessary struggle all for no purpose. Non existence is objectively better.

So therefore suicide should be accepted in society and not be seen as something that is always irrational and must always be prevented. Choosing freedom and peace over a pointless existence where things will just get worse could never be irrational. In my case wanting suicide is the rational response to seeing life for what it really is and escaping this life would be the best thing possible.

I feel the same way. And I always knew from a young age that I wasn't cut out for life, and it wasn't worth it for me. And never would be. But I was told I was ridiculous, and you never know how life will turn out, and life gets better, etc. Now I ended up being right, and just get more and more miserable and useless as time goes on. And make everyone around me miserable too. Why wouldn't it have been a better thing for me to ctb years ago. And save me from all the extra years of torment and loneliness, and bringing other people down.

 

[Idkaho2]

Suicide should always be accepted and respected as a personal decision. To try and prevent this will only ever prolong a persons suffering. Nobody should ever be forced to endure life against their wishes, that is just selfish and cruel. Purposely making it more difficult for people to ctb will just make them more desperate to leave. How delusional must someone be to try and stop someone else ending their suffering. If they want to live then that is fine but they shouldn't force their beliefs onto others and make it so difficult for others to achieve eternal peace. Others should have no right to interfere in ctb plans.

The truth is that suicide could never be wrong. It would be impossible for it to be wrong. Suicide solves all of life's problems. If someone was to leave this world it would remove the cause of all problems in the first place which is life itself. Only the living can suffer, all negative experiences and emotions are only able to be felt by the living and not the dead. And if someones suicide plans were interrupted, all that would be doing is just delaying the inevitable. We only exist just to suffer and deteriorate from old age then die to be forgotten. That's all life is, so if someone wants to leave at a time of their own choosing they should be able to.

There is no real benefit to staying alive, non existence is objectively more preferable as every life has some sort of suffering in it with the chance of things getting much worse at any point. It's beyond terrifying how there is no limit as to how much pain we can feel. To die would prevent all this and I very strongly believe that death is peaceful nonexistence, an eternal sleep where nothing can ever hurt us. But in comparison life is just a tiring unnecessary struggle all for no purpose. Non existence is objectively better.

So therefore suicide should be accepted in society and not be seen as something that is always irrational and must always be prevented. Choosing freedom and peace over a pointless existence where things will just get worse could never be irrational. In my case wanting suicide is the rational response to seeing life for what it really is and escaping this life would be the best thing possible.

I disagree with the first paragraph for obvious reasons. One of which is imagine a hypothetical scenario in which a woman has a kid and the kid is birthed, should her suicide, forgoing the wellbeing of the human she willingly birthed into this world, be accepted and respected as a personal decision? I'd think not. I'd say she has a duty to the child that she brought into existence, regardless of her suffering. Killing herself and leaving the baby to fend for themselves would be selfish and cruel. There's a multiple of other scenarios I could bring up but you probably get the point.

>There is no real benefit to staying alive, non existence is objectively more preferable as every life has some sort of suffering in it with the chance of things getting much worse at any point.
Every life has some sort of happiness in it too and well adjusted, non chronically ill people get a balance of both (probably net suffering in the end though).

 

[wanttodie]

I agree with everything you posted.

 

[makethepainstop]

I have too think that your correct.

 

[Obliviate]

Thank You for this post. I really needed it. Everything you said was beautiful. I am sitting her typing this as bombs and a whole war is going on in the other side of the world and my heart breaks for them. Why is this my life and that theirs?