Story Took SN. Here's my story

[spanishguy22]

What I don't understand, if you puke your SN partly out, why do you still expect everything will go according to the plan and you can fall unconscious after 15 minutes? You did the right thing by calling the ambulance, this wouldn't have killed you anyways and you don't need to torture yourself for nothing.

Good point. Perhaps redosing a small amount like 3/4 grams whenever a puking episode happens would ensure death.

Good point. Perhaps redosing a small amount like 3/4 grams whenever a puking episode happens would ensure death.

Must be really uncomfortable I imagine though with the vomit still in your mouth...

 

[jayfox]

What I don't understand, if you puke your SN partly out, why do you still expect everything will go according to the plan and you can fall unconscious after 15 minutes? You did the right thing by calling the ambulance, this wouldn't have killed you anyways and you don't need to torture yourself for nothing.

Wouldn't kill him? He wrote that the nurses and doctors at hospital had him as a goner.

 

[NextSummer]

Wouldn't kill him? He wrote that the nurses and doctors at hospital had him as a goner.

I don't think there is a lethal dose in the body if one pukes 3x around 5 minutes (and before 15min) after ingestion. My personal hypothesis is that they noticed that he wanted to live (he called the ambulance and openly says he doesn't want to die anymore) and that they tried to scare him. I can not imagine a doctor saying "Oh don't worry nothing serious happened" after a failed suicide attempt. But - no proof- I wasn't there, I am no doctor. Just what I think.

 

[jayfox]

I don't think there is a lethal dose in the body if one pukes 3x around 5 minutes (and before 15min) after ingestion. My personal hypothesis is that they noticed that he wanted to live (he called the ambulance and openly says he doesn't want to die anymore) and that they tried to scare him. I can not imagine a doctor saying "Oh don't worry nothing serious happened" after a failed suicide attempt. But - no proof- I wasn't there, I am no doctor. Just what I think.

Yes that makes sense, but as he says he has " tubes in every hole" hes probably in ICU.

That goes with some other cases that puked and got still messed up bad

Botttom lime SN might not be as straight forward as we once thought but still very dangerous.

 

[Kta1994]

How is he now?

 

[Lifeisatrap]

There goes my peace of mind:(

 

[NoOneKnows]

sorry to hear it didnt go the way you planned. What I dont uderstand is how you mention you didnt feel drowsy AT ALL ,even after all the time until they came. Thats very strange, is it possible it was weak quality SN?....17 grams is not a small amount, I think its better to play it safe, on the other hand I would like to know if the risk of vomiting isnt greater with large amounts like 20g for instance...I think it must be quite a sudden shock for the stomach to handle

 

[Vegrau]

sorry to hear it didnt go the way you planned. What I dont uderstand is how you mention you didnt feel drowsy AT ALL ,even after all the time until they came. Thats very strange, is it possible it was weak quality SN?....17 grams is not a small amount, I think its better to play it safe, on the other hand I would like to know if the risk of vomiting isnt greater with large amounts like 20g for instance...I think it must be quite a sudden shock for the stomach to handle

Dont forget we are consciously ingesting poison. Even if our body dont act. Our mind will force us to puke it out. Survival instinct and everything. Not to mention without using acid reducer. It really affect the SN effectiveness.

 

[spanishguy22]

I don't think it's the mind. Antiems simply don't fully suppress the system.

Dont forget we are consciously ingesting poison. Even if our body dont act. Our mind will force us to puke it out. Survival instinct and everything. Not to mention without using acid reducer. It really affect the SN effectiveness.

I read antiacids delay loss of consciousness so what's the right choice I wonder...

 

[Vegrau]

I don't think it's the mind. Antiems simply don't fully suppress the system.


I read antiacids delay loss of consciousness so what's the right choice I wonder...

Well we dont know for sure though. Whether its mind or the meds. Or both. But we can do a simple experiment. If you knowingly eating something you find disgusting. Your mind and body will react to it. You will definitely gag. But if you ingest it unknowingly then there wont be much reaction from your body. Thats why I came to that conclusion. Like placebo.

No choice really the ph level in gastric really affecting the effectiveness of SN. As they said of course.

 

[spanishguy22]

Well we dont know for sure though. Whether its mind or the meds. Or both. But we can do a simple experiment. If you knowingly eating something you find disgusting. Your mind and body will react to it. You will definitely gag. But if you ingest it unknowingly then there wont be much reaction from your body. Thats why I came to that conclusion. Like placebo.

No choice really the ph level in gastric really affecting the effectiveness of SN. As they said of course.

That's a great point, I stand corrected.
There were studies that linked antiems with delayed loss of consciousness but overall effectiveness isn't lost. You do feel bad longer ofc.

 

[Vegrau]

That's a great point, I stand corrected.
There were studies that linked antiems with delayed loss of consciousness but overall effectiveness isn't lost. You do feel bad longer ofc.

Is that true the ph in our stomach acid doesnt affect the SN effectiveness? Then why is everyone talking about it?

 

[spanishguy22]

Is that true the ph in our stomach acid doesnt affect the SN effectiveness? Then why is everyone talking about it?

Sorry I fucked up. I meant antiacids. And yeah they add effectiveness with the downside of delayed loss of consciousness (what I read).

 

[Vegrau]

Sorry I fucked up. I meant antiacids. And yeah they add effectiveness with the downside of delayed loss of consciousness (what I read).

Its okay no prob and I see. What a dilemma. Either we take more SN to counteract the stomach acid risking the gag reflex or we take antiacid risking longer time to unconsciousness. Either way no easy path for any of us. Not in this kind of world. If only N were readily available.

 

[s_girl]

Sorry to bother you but if I'm not mistaken that means you have to take one AE pill every eight hour starting from 48 hour before you drink SN and one pill 30 minutes prior to the attempt right? A Also do you have any idea on what should be the doasage of the anti-emetic pill? And when should I take the tagamet?

Yes that's about right but there's lots of differing opinions on it. SN is not my method, but I believe antiemetics regimes are similiar. There's heaps of threads on antiemetics and the pro's and con's, if you use the search feature to help find them.

This site also has lots of great information: https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

 

[Strumgewehr]

Yes that's about right but there's lots of differing opinions on it. SN is not my method, but I believe antiemetics regimes are similiar. There's heaps of threads on antiemetics and the pro's and con's, if you use the search feature to help find them.

This site also has lots of great information: https://en.m.wikibooks.org/wiki/Suicide/Toxification/Antiemetic_regimen

Thanks for the link.

 

[Karangel25]

Maybe take anti es for 3 days. I'm still doing this method. You just have to not call emergency services

 

[spanishguy22]

So what Op didn't do correctly i think:

-Not having a antiemetic regimen
-Not using antiacid correctly
-not redosing after puke (hard)
-calling emergency (but he did the right thing after puking so much)

Also I take away from this that fasting for more than 8h does little to nothing

 

[Karangel25]

Ok I just got my antiemetic. Hoping this goes well for me

 

[spanishguy22]

Ok I just got my antiemetic. Hoping this goes well for me

Please update if you decide. I'm also thinking about this

 

[tony.end]

Remember he didnt took any acid reducer.

sorry but op said he took 225 mg of Zantac, isn't that an acid reducer?

 

[jayfox]

sorry but op said he took 225 mg of Zantac, isn't that an acid reducer?

Yes it is .

 

[spanishguy22]

I was gonna do a lot of chemistry and create my own Sodium cyanide, but the risk of that compared to this made me change my mind. I did after all, join this site to find more peaceful alternatives and I believe this is one of the best options give each condition is met. I looked up dopamine blockers to act as my antiemetic and selected melatonin. It's easy to get a hold of and is a depressant to ensure I rest easy once it's time. I know there would be suggestions to get the prescription drugs but I can't wait any longer and just want it to end. Now I have no choice after emptying my savings into ordering SN, after the whole cyanide ambition, so this will be my method. I plan on taking 20mg in 10 min intervals should I not faint. I will take twice the dosage of daily melatonin ever 2 hours the day before up until the time and the Tagamet an hour and another half hour before ingesting SN. It arrives on Friday, debating on a hotel room or visiting my favorite mountain top in Chico

melatonin is awful antiemetic mate, wont work. youll just give yourself a bad time. you need meto

 

[Keshin]

melatonin is awful antiemetic mate, wont work. youll just give yourself a bad time. you need meto

Thank you for the feedback, I meant to remove the post to place it on a different thread. I'm not sure how to get a hold of meto, actually thought of diving in the darkweb. But I've also seen on these forums that antiemetics are only necessary to keep it all down, and if I could I'd rather not wait on the journey to find some

 

[jayfox]

melatonin is awful antiemetic mate, wont work. youll just give yourself a bad time. you need meto

I second this

 

[spanishguy22]

Thank you for the feedback, I meant to remove the post to place it on a different thread. I'm not sure how to get a hold of meto, actually thought of diving in the darkweb. But I've also seen on these forums that antiemetics are only necessary to keep it all down, and if I could I'd rather not wait on the journey to find some

i feel you about that, i also wanna die asap but we have to do it right. if you fail because of desperation youll be locked in a psych ward, thats worse. check wiki for meto sellers

 

[Spartacus00]

I know this is a old post but I getting my SN in couple of days an not got any anti until I get paid an I can't wait that long so I going try 20g in capsules tablets and drink 10g in flavour water an I doing this in a area where it would take a hour for me to get help if I changed mind so fingers crossed it be to late by then but if I pass out an wake up an recover then I try with anti at end of the month with the other 70g I have left of SN I am determined to do this I know I can't go on much longer with the pain an suffering I'm in so fingers for me, sad thing is I'm bit excited for it an that's when you know it's the right time

 

[mutagen]

What are you planning to use as an antiemetic?

 

[spanishguy22]

I know this is a old post but I getting my SN in couple of days an not got any anti until I get paid an I can't wait that long so I going try 20g in capsules tablets and drink 10g in flavour water an I doing this in a area where it would take a hour for me to get help if I changed mind so fingers crossed it be to late by then but if I pass out an wake up an recover then I try with anti at end of the month with the other 70g I have left of SN I am determined to do this I know I can't go on much longer with the pain an suffering I'm in so fingers for me, sad thing is I'm bit excited for it an that's when you know it's the right time

Hope you don't do it without antiems but keep us updated if you could. Best luck mate

 

[Spartacus00]

Hope you don't do it without antiems but keep us updated if you could. Best luck mate

I will do it without them as pain I'm in anything is better that's for sure an I will keep you posted up until I can't anymore

What are you planning to use as an antiemetic?

Nothing on the first attempt just going see without it, doing research you can easily find people that died by SN without any anti due to not knowing they ingested but yet loads of fail attempts even with anti so either way I'm going try far away where help won't be able to help an if I pass out an wake up then I try anti end of month once I been paid it's just I can't go on so all I can do is try an never know I might have a change of mind after first like a new vision of life but without the one I love most I don't think so