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Today at church, the gospel basically straight up said if you do not believe in God you cannot inherit the Kingdom of Heaven. I just feel completely doomed and I want to go to Heaven if there is one, or to serve God if He exists, but I just don't know anymore. I feel like I'm just on track to hell and I can't be helped.
Why don't you think you'll go to heaven, if you don't mind me asking? If God is so forgiving and understanding, then he would probably be able to excuse the sin of suicide, as long as you have faith and believe in Him, right? Sorry if this comes off as rude, I'm not really much into religions, I've only heard snippets of each religion's beliefs.
Well, the thing is if you believe in Him and commit suicide, you are acknowledging it's a sin and against Him, deliberately throwing away the gift of Life. thats Pretty much just spitting in His face at that point, but I would hope so very much he'd forgive me. When I die, if I am met with God instead of nonexistence, I'd beg Him for mercy because He does not deserve such disrespect from his creation.
Oh, thanks for clearing that up. I recently looked up some christian beliefs, called "the ten commandments" to kind of get a better understanding of the ideas and mindset of a christian person. One of the ten commandments was "do not murder", which I guess technically also applies to yourself, because by committing suicide, you're effectively murdering yourself.
I don't think it's necessary to be posting things like that here, this is a suicide forum and the last thing someone who wants To cease to exist is to read about the "Ten Commandments". Maybe you can post that in the recovery section.
I just hope either I don't exist after death or God is as merciful as Christianity says He is.
I'm just saying I did some research to understand dwindling and pancake's thinking. But you're right, this probably isn't the place to discuss religion based topics.
I don't believe in religion, but I find it interesting to see why other people believe in them. It's sort of like a moral compass for some people, and a set of rules they live by, even if to us they make little sense.
You can take hope from the fact that suicide is nowhere condemned in the Bible, which it presumably would be if it were against God's will. In fact, the Beatitudes, the core and essence of Jesus' teaching, is totally opposed in spirit to the ugly judgmentality of those pseudo-Christians who condemn suicide. Don't know where they got their hatred of suicide, but it certainly wasn't from the Bible.
I'm an ex-muslim tho, i know a verse in the quran where it says "fear me and don't fear them" haha, i can relate to this so much
You can't prove something when it does not exist, well I guess religion itself does exist but only because it is the product of brainwashing people into believing that something that does not exist really does exist.
I don't think you are going to heaven either. But neither is your mum. Heaven doesn't exist.
You are correct! The Christian Bible nowhere teaches that heaven is the reward of the saved or that an ever-burning hell is the destiny of the condemned.
