To girls of this site: do you hate it when guys treat you differently just because you're a girl?

[peacechoice]

Largely agree with your post and perspective and I will not go into the societal impact that normalizing divorce has had for example destruction of the nuclear family but I will say that woman then did not have the ability to leave a loveless marriage as they can today.
It is great you embrace your gender role and seek to nurture and care for a man while he provides. I hope you are able to find a man to be a traditional wife for.
Sadly men these days are pretty much entirely addicted to porn so finding a traditional man may be hard.

True true. I think ideally for me, I'd be an amazing housewife, but also I want my own money.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

my problem with 2020 is just this.
like seriously? i cant say mansplaining, cant say manly, cant say get back to the kitchen, cant say women are the weaker one, physically, unless you bloody powerlift daily, even then a man who powerlifts daily will still be stronger.
what happened to logic, what happened to freedom of speech, why was i born in this era, why, why, why is santa not real.
its all gender this, dont say this, dont say that. if its racist or flat out bang derogatory what is wrong with saying mansplaining... oh wait there is nothing.

I am all for complete freedom of speech no matter what opinion someone has but I totally get agitated when I see "mansplaining" as I associate it with 3rd wave feminism.

 

[raindrops]

I think there's nothing wrong with wanting to be a housewife. But we should also consider the women who wants a different role, even the ones who are not even heterosexual in the first place.

I also want to point out that some older couples last longer, because divorce wasnt even an option. You never know who's suffering behind the happy faces of a couple.

they have already been consider, thankfully. all hail this new era for that. so much equality, men and women are now the same.. pfft. what nonsense. pisses me off. we are not the same, oh men are paid more, women less, i cant deal with it. moan, moan, moan, its all i see. most men dont get maternity leave, and still to this day provide for their family, all the while the woman sits at home, help from the government, money from the fathers pocket. i have no time to answer or moan, or debate those who choose life solo, who then moan, it would be true to say sharing bills is cheaper, life is sort of easier that way.
im not going to be sorry for my opinions, i hate those that are overly pc, too moany. i hate feminists too, hate them! and im a woman. ahhh i cant type it out, i get too annoyed with it all.

I am all for complete freedom of speech no matter what opinion someone has but I totally get agitated when I see "mansplaining" as I associate it with 3rd wave feminism.

i dont associate it with anything, mansplaining, womansplaining, its just a play on words. its funny if anything, women do moan, i moan a lot, im moaning now. men point it out, trust me, so if anything all that is, is a joke.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

we are not the same, oh men are paid more, women less

This statistic is actually entirely bullshit because it just turns out that woman go for jobs that tend to pay less than men.
I really think it is a redflag when someone seriously thinks this is the case as it shows they just accept what they hear and see without actually using critical thinking and investigating anything themselves. (not meaning you)

Not all feminist groups are the type you are obviously reacting negatively towards.
You seem based trad poster

 

[raindrops]

Largely agree with your post and perspective and I will not go into the societal impact that normalizing divorce has had for example destruction of the nuclear family but I will say that woman then did not have the ability to leave a loveless marriage as they can today.
It is great you embrace your gender role and seek to nurture and care for a man while he provides. I hope you are able to find a man to be a traditional wife for.
Sadly men these days are pretty much entirely addicted to porn so finding a traditional man may be hard.

im talking about the ones together, today not because divorce wasnt there, then why would they still be together, im talking about the ones that have lasted 50+years until today. I have someone but unfortunately I have to work, like I say, those times have gone, unless you're rich...

 

[Viro_Major]

I treated girls differently in my lifetime and I highly regret it. Since childhood, I used to consider them as goddesses and superior beings but they're just commonly random and on par, plenty are even (plainly) bad.
I think this behaviour I adopted disserved both to reveal themselves and exist, and indirectly myself, each to maintain healthy relationships. It only created distorded views and a fracture that I didn't acknowledge soon enough. Nobody likes pressure too much, nobody appreciates to not have the right to be flawed, nobody enjoys to have expectations assigned onto them. And obviously, of course, nobody can value a lack of sincerity because he/she doesn't know how to behave naturally but only with twists in order to address a situation to achieve goals or intents. I'm not even talking about judging the opposite sex as a prey or object of source of interest that has nothing to do anymore with the person. This is all a drift fitting into fake and dillusionnal and can only lead to bad consequences

An evil grinned woman with humour approached me with this meme 2 days ago and it's the new reference I vouch to go by lol



Much more fitted for every situation ;) life set me dead on tracks at adulthood, for the event that a serial killer entered my life. My aunt killed for a second time (before a third and fourth time), my uncle this time, after he expressed his will to divorce. He was rich, she was half insane (diagnosed later) and she couldn't let it go. This story repeated once again, a friend of my family was poisoned by his dear wife, again based on lust and further ill-minded vendetta following unwell placed conflicting ego
And this is only just the tip of the iceberg of the full spectrum that can happen. Some people are just nasty, whatever their gender, it's true for both men and women. Nobody gets the win anymore for me. You're all shit in my books Sorry for the ironical pinch but now as a basis I always start wary, defiant and disappointed and wait to get surprised for the better and it happens. I prefer this way around and I will try my best to not put you on a pedestal but fart in front without the least modesty. If I do congratulate with compliments, on the other hand, it will be an acquisition on your side so I will utmost sincerely mean it.
All in all, I now value realism and I will make efforts to extend it to communication and attitude. It's not always easy and I can lag but that became my quest.

(oops wait, I replied. Am I a girl inside ? The frontier gets blurry)

 

[hoping to lose hope]

im talking about the ones together, today not because divorce wasnt there, then why would they still be together, im talking about the ones that have lasted 50+years until today. I have someone but unfortunately I have to work, like I say, those times have gone, unless you're rich...

It is sooo cute when you see very old couples and the man obviously is still deeply in love with his wife I just love it sooo much.

 

[MindFrog]

they have already been consider, thankfully. all hail this new era for that. so much equality, men and women are now the same.. pfft. what nonsense

Hmm i dont know. In some third world countries, that's not really the case. Maybe its just the difference in location so i dont completely agree with your sentiments.

 

[raindrops]

It is sooo cute when you see very old couples and the man obviously is still deeply in love with his wife I just love it sooo much.

yes i know, its the sweetest.
and i cant stand any feminist group, i say take their groups out to countries that need truly helping, we're fine in the western world. maybe females do go for lower paid jobs, but i am right when i say some jobs are gender specific. that will annoy some people, god knows why it annoys people, i dont wanna be a builder, that is a man job. im right!! i would say emptying the bins is a mans job, hence, binman. i saw a female doing it once as a job i was shocked, what do i say binlady? im in the UK btw, so maybe some jobs are different, i dunno, anyway i havent slept its 7:17..

Hmm i dont know. In some third world countries, that's not really the case. Maybe its just the difference in location so i dont completely agree with your sentiments.

omg i wasnt talking about 3rd world i dont know what i can do to help them personally so i choose to focus on my own country, you know where it will affect me. theres simply nothing i can do or say other than, i know its terrible out there, i wish theyd do something about it. with that being said, i changed nothing, so i focus on my own country.

 

[hoping to lose hope]

i say take their groups out to countries that need truly helping, we're fine in the western world.

There are feminists who realie they should maybe concentrate on improving the lives of woman that are being abused in the thirdworld but I personally think gender critical radical feminism is very relevant to the west or "terfs" as they get called.

 

[summers]

It does break my heart when i expected friendship but some guys treat it like a stepping stone for dating. Kinda made me feel like i got lied to.

It gets worse because i cant properly detect social ques. So i dont know if someone's flirting or just being friendly.

I've had a few friendships that turned physical. I can say that wasn't my intention from the start, but sometimes the chemistry is there. But exactly to your point, it has to go both ways. Guys who play the friend game to actually get with a girl usually are just insecure. If you want to be with someone physically, be up front. It works out better all the time.

Also, I can say from experience that you can definitely have a physical relationship and stay just friends. It doesn't have to become anything more, as long as both parties are ok with that.

 

[puppy9]

I don't interact with girls in real life, because they'll flirt with me. I hate that.

 

[Fedrea]

my problem with 2020 is just this.
like seriously? i cant say mansplaining, cant say manly, cant say get back to the kitchen, cant say women are the weaker one, physically, unless you bloody powerlift daily, even then a man who powerlifts daily will still be stronger.
what happened to logic, what happened to freedom of speech, why was i born in this era, why, why, why is santa not real.
its all gender this, dont say this, dont say that. if its racist or flat out bang derogatory what is wrong with saying mansplaining... oh wait there is nothing.

You get back in the kitchen lad.

 

[raindrops]

You get back in the kitchen lad.

I laughed then I missed the joke, I mean...I'm female, lad.

I did have an answer to those truly ignorant men, if they so ignorantly said "get back in the kitchen" my reply was -
"oh yeah well why don't you get back in the garage with the rest of the tools"

 

[KleinerWolf]

I laughed then I missed the joke, I mean...I'm female, lad.

I did have an answer to those truly ignorant men, if they so ignorantly said "get back in the kitchen" my reply was -
"oh yeah well why don't you get back in the garage with the rest of the tools"

It would be good if someone can cook...

 

[sadgirl2002]

but we are different. okay, this will probably sound awful to some...
i wish i could go back in time to the 1930's/40's/50's but with some of the changes we have today.
im grateful for the rights us women have today, dont get me wrong here. women should always of been able to read and write for example, and anyone in the right mind wouldnt hit a woman, or a man of course, see i had to say "or a man" today is so over opinionated, ugh i wont get into it but men are considerably stronger than women, but yes an abuser is an abuser, regardless of sex. anyway thats not what im talking about...

i just love the idea of looking after a husband, being the one who cleans, cooks, house proud, you know all of those "stereotypical" things.
if you think of these marriages that have lasted 50+ years its because the woman knew her role, thats right i said role. women should be kind, caring, considerate, somewhat feminine and dare i say obedient too, im right, i sound wrong because its 2020 and i should be more PC, well no, i wont be. like i say if you look at older, elderly couples they have lasted because i bet 9 out of 10 of these women were what i described. the man went to work, the woman usually stayed at home and looked after the children or house, cooked dinner, cleaned, all of those things and with those things being done, kept a man happy. all of that and the fact a man wanted to provide for his wife, that made them i suppose feel manly, oops i said manly, ffs. and yes it shown independence, a woman was not inferior because she did/does these things, not at all. anyway, those times have gone.

i love it when a man says " back to the kitchen" im like yeah i will thanks, i cook well, clean well too actually. shame some of those ignorant men wont have someone to do them things for them. but yeah, i like being , can i say...weaker one, you know, feminine, all those stereotypical things ;D shame i cant stay at home all day while a man works and i clean, cook. i wish i lived in the 30's/40's/50's....

Oh my god, finally someone who has the same mindset as me! I've always wanted to be a housewife, ever since I was a teenager. I hated the idea of working and I only wanted to stay at home, cook and clean and look after the children. That was my dream, it still is! That lifestyle always seemed more ideal to me, I've always been very old-fashioned and I guess this is another one of those things. I also hate it when I see parents giving their child to a childminder or elsewhere because they both have to work, people prioritise their careers more than anything nowadays. I agree with everything you said, I've always thought it is much better when men are breadwinners and women stay at home and take care of it, it just makes more sense. I understand that most women want a career but this is the way I've always wanted to be :')

 

[Life_and_Death]

I hate being female for that exact reason. Between guys treating me like something they can walk on and use, and the whole "females can't do that" I REALLY hate being female. I'd actually prefer being treated like a guy. I love working on cars and getting dirty, doing hard work and stuff like that.

Guys please.... I beg you..... Let me join

I never would because I wouldn't get surgery to save my legs so forget gender reassignment plus I'd feel even more physically out of place.... But just so guys f off..... I'll admit I've thought about it.

 

[Lotus]

No, I mostly enjoy it. I feel like an equal when people talk to and treat me like an actual person with opinions and feelings. And I get flattered when guys treat me more nicely because I'm female. Sure, some guys can be rude and creeps, but most are just kind and gentle, and I feel like I don't deserve it.

There are so many sweethearts here on this site, both females and males (or whatever one would like to call oneself).

 

[SuicidalDream]

And the worst thing is that it makes you feel that they were never genuine with you from the moment they realized you are a girl.
You can be talking to a guy online for literally a year and be friends and discover they had other intentions from the get go when you made it CLEAR you are not looking to be in a relationship with anyone...
Why do men flirt with woman online? is this normal and accepted at all? I would not know.

That's happened to me a few times online and irl. It's disturbing how much their behavior changes when they finally accept that I'm not into them. It can also be invalidating because most of the time they know I'm a lesbian, and they see me as some kind of challenge.

 

[Good4Nothing]

I hate being female for that exact reason. Between guys treating me like something they can walk on and use, and the whole "females can't do that" I REALLY hate being female. I'd actually prefer being treated like a guy. I love working on cars and getting dirty, doing hard work and stuff like that.

Guys please.... I beg you..... Let me join

I never would because I wouldn't get surgery to save my legs so forget gender reassignment plus I'd feel even more physically out of place.... But just so guys f off..... I'll admit I've thought about it.

You're welcome to come change the oil in my car. 'Cause I don't wanna.
I'll make you a sammich.

 

[_Kaira_]

I don't think I have gotten any kind of special treatment from men. Probably because I'm not up to par with societies high expectations for 'feminine beauty' lol.

With that being said, I'd be surprised if I did. People I know actually have high standards for me, and I don't go outside enough to interact with people anyway.

 

[Life_and_Death]

You're welcome to come change the oil in my car. 'Cause I don't wanna.
I'll make you a sammich.

OMG THANK YOU!!! THAT'S ALL I EVER WANTED :')

 

[W’ren]

I was once with my father at the car shop (he had given me a ride there).
The mechanic had been fixing my car after an accident (not my fault btw) and i'd seen my car, it was missing a detail on the front that they said they'd replace and some other things-
Anyway the mechanic spoke looking at my father until he got to the cosmetic issues, THEN he looked at me and said "it will look pretty, don't worry".
OMFG. It wasn't even dad's car. It was mine. I was paying. I was SO pissed.
So yes, i get annoyed when i'm treated differently because i'm female- sexism is still a big problem in today's society at least in the older generations - i can't speak for the youth.

 

[SwagGalore]

It depends on what "treat you differently" entails, but generally speaking, yes.

While blatant sexism is something I come across from time to time, the more frequent issue for me has been men aggressively pursuing me while I tried to politely signal I wasn't interested. Of course sometimes a more direct approach is necessary. The problem there is that your disinterest in a relationship can be met with anything ranging from them having no more interest in you as a human being to outright hostility.

I had always been disinterested in dating, but after years of bad luck with guys, I had nearly sworn off the idea. I was lucky enough to meet my boyfriend a couple of years ago. He's the first and last guy I'll be romantically involved with.

I prefer being treated as another guy because to me that means being treated as a friend, and that's almost always what I'm looking for. For years I never mentioned my sex online because I prefer the less inhibited and more boisterous way guys talk to me when they assume I'm one of them. Oftentimes that vanishes once your actual gender is known.