To die and be forgotten about really is ideal

[FuneralCry]

It really is the only thing in this life that is comforting, the thought of permanent non existence. It would be the best thing for this life to finally be gone and instead there would be nothing, not even the awareness that I'm dead. I never want to be remembered, and I don't want to remember anything, I want it to be like I never existed at all, remembering things only leads to more suffering.

But it's what we are destined for as humans to be forgotten about. Human life is insignificant. All our problems and suffering will die with us and anything that feels important to us now will eventually not be, it cannot possibly be. So this fact concludes that life is basically a waste of time. Why suffer for the sake of it just to die anyway eventually. It's irrational to want to suffer until old age where life can torture us in so many ways, to me it will always be preferable to take control over this life I never asked for and exit when the time is right for me. Peaceful non existence is ideal as such a thing as peace could never exist in this life, it would be impossible for it to exist.

When life itself is the true problem, of course to be forgotten about would be ideal. I've always had a dislike for simply experiencing life and being trapped in the prison that is the human body. I don't see any value to experiencing anything and as life goes on things will only get worse. This is why it's better to be gone and forget about everything, if only dying was as easy as just choosing to be gone in our sleep, then that really would be ideal. Enduring day after day really is so pointless.

 

[hush hush]

It really is the only thing in this life that is comforting, the thought of permanent non existence. It would be the best thing for this life to finally be gone and instead there would be nothing, not even the awareness that I'm dead. I never want to be remembered, and I don't want to remember anything, I want it to be like I never existed at all, remembering things only leads to more suffering.

But it's what we are destined for as humans to be forgotten about. Human life is insignificant. All our problems and suffering will die with us and anything that feels important to us now will eventually not be, it cannot possibly be. So this fact concludes that life is basically a waste of time. Why suffer for the sake of it just to die anyway eventually. It's irrational to want to suffer until old age where life can torture us in so many ways, to me it will always be preferable to take control over this life I never asked for and exit when the time is right for me. Peaceful non existence is ideal as such a thing as peace could never exist in this life, it would be impossible for it to exist.

When life itself is the true problem, of course to be forgotten about would be ideal. I've always had a dislike for simply experiencing life and being trapped in the prison that is the human body. I don't see any value to experiencing anything and as life goes on things will only get worse. This is why it's better to be gone and forget about everything, if only dying was as easy as just choosing to be gone in our sleep, then that really would be ideal. Enduring day after day really is so pointless.

I agree with you, BTW where are you from? You have repeatedly told that you have no access to CTB methods. I cannot PM you... I believe from the UK.

 

[gogg]

It really is the only thing in this life that is comforting, the thought of permanent non existence. It would be the best thing for this life to finally be gone and instead there would be nothing, not even the awareness that I'm dead. I never want to be remembered, and I don't want to remember anything, I want it to be like I never existed at all, remembering things only leads to more suffering.

But it's what we are destined for as humans to be forgotten about. Human life is insignificant. All our problems and suffering will die with us and anything that feels important to us now will eventually not be, it cannot possibly be. So this fact concludes that life is basically a waste of time. Why suffer for the sake of it just to die anyway eventually. It's irrational to want to suffer until old age where life can torture us in so many ways, to me it will always be preferable to take control over this life I never asked for and exit when the time is right for me. Peaceful non existence is ideal as such a thing as peace could never exist in this life, it would be impossible for it to exist.

When life itself is the true problem, of course to be forgotten about would be ideal. I've always had a dislike for simply experiencing life and being trapped in the prison that is the human body. I don't see any value to experiencing anything and as life goes on things will only get worse. This is why it's better to be gone and forget about everything, if only dying was as easy as just choosing to be gone in our sleep, then that really would be ideal. Enduring day after day really is so pointless.

you already acknowledge that we will all be forgotten about in due time, and that in the grand scheme of things there is nothing we can do that will make a difference on much. You look at it in a sense of the only point to live is to die and that its all irrelevant.

However, what if you looked at it in the sense that if nothing you do matters, you can do anything you want without any moral consequences. You shouldnt be afraid to do what you truly desire, I know there is something you want to do but just cant because of something mentally preventing you. Whether its asking a person on a date, doing something you find embarrassing, or something illegal.

Maybe you can enjoy those things, maybe not. Maybe im wrong and you truly have done everything you would ever want. Either way, im sorry for your pain.

 

[akirat9]

Ordinarily, I would try to comfort you, but I have been observing your activity over the last few weeks / months and I don't think it's enough just to comfort. I have to say that your posts are some of the most despairing on here, and that I have come across. Life is not something which should be rationalised, as pretty much all the happiness comes from ignorance. That being said, I think there is such thing as overdoing negativity. It leads to a cycle of mental suffering that is hard to escape. From what I can see, you are already there at rock bottom. As much as I despise toxic positivity, repeatedly saying statements like "it only gets worse" and "life is a waste of time" will only make it worse. The problem is, this kind of mental state and thinking will only affect you, so you're really the only one who can do anything about it. We (I and the other members in this community) can try to support you as much as we can on the forum but there is only so much we can do to help with this.

I like to think of mentality in terms of mathematics, and the best way to disprove something is to provide a counter example. So perhaps the best way to show life is not 100% suffering, as you seem to believe, is to think of, or find, just one thing that is happy and refreshing for a change. I can't say happiness listing excercises ever worked for me but maybe it will work for you.

Of course, there is only so much finding happy things can do, and focusing on them will not make the problems go away but it could be a big help in either your recovery or your leaving us, whichever quest you may embark on. Good luck, hope I said something which you can resonate with!

is very rude, not come here to here the same thing they say outside this forum. but as FC once say, no even this place is safe from riff raff

 

[akirat9]

FC, it took me a while to see, but now i agree, it would be better to be forgotten about
though i dont why im saying 'be forgotten about' no one knows me

 

[Winterreise]

All my fears relate to memory, fame and immortality.

 

[thedaywillcome]

It really is the only thing in this life that is comforting, the thought of permanent non existence. It would be the best thing for this life to finally be gone and instead there would be nothing, not even the awareness that I'm dead. I never want to be remembered, and I don't want to remember anything, I want it to be like I never existed at all, remembering things only leads to more suffering.

But it's what we are destined for as humans to be forgotten about. Human life is insignificant. All our problems and suffering will die with us and anything that feels important to us now will eventually not be, it cannot possibly be. So this fact concludes that life is basically a waste of time. Why suffer for the sake of it just to die anyway eventually. It's irrational to want to suffer until old age where life can torture us in so many ways, to me it will always be preferable to take control over this life I never asked for and exit when the time is right for me. Peaceful non existence is ideal as such a thing as peace could never exist in this life, it would be impossible for it to exist.

When life itself is the true problem, of course to be forgotten about would be ideal. I've always had a dislike for simply experiencing life and being trapped in the prison that is the human body. I don't see any value to experiencing anything and as life goes on things will only get worse. This is why it's better to be gone and forget about everything, if only dying was as easy as just choosing to be gone in our sleep, then that really would be ideal. Enduring day after day really is so pointless.

What if this human body has a serious medical condition, is crippled or has a genetic defect?

 

[FuneralCry]

I agree with you, BTW where are you from? You have repeatedly told that you have no access to CTB methods. I cannot PM you... I believe from the UK.

I'm from the UK, and for me the more desirable methods are difficult to access, it does sound risky trying to get something like N, I read about someone receiving a wellness check. The more easily accessible methods, hanging and drowning do scare me, but eventually I will have to find a way to leave, as I cannot put up with this life for many more decades. At least the option of suicide is always there even if it can be difficult and awful to go through with.

 

[chloramine]

I can definitely see the appeal of that. Just being done and gone and that being it. Personally the idea of being completely forgotten by the people who know me now is sad. I don't mind it long term (I have no desire for people to know who I am for centuries to come), short term hurts to think of though. I'm sorry you're unwillingly trapped in life. I hope you're able to find some measure of peace or relief.

 

[lachrymost]

Perceiving and being perceived is just not for me. Being completely forgotten gets more and more appealing.

 

[Forever Sleep]

Honestly, I think you, me and the vast majority of people will get your wish. In the grand scheme of life, unless we leave some incredible legacy behind- invent something or be massively famous, it's likely we will be forgotten about within one or two generations- maybe even less- depending on whose lives we impact.

I don't think I care about me. I sort of suspect like you- I resent life. I resent existing- so it makes sense to want it to be like we were never here when we're gone.

It makes me sad though about my Mum. Very soon, there will be no one left that remembers her. Not that it makes a difference- it's not going to bring her back but it does make me sad to think she won't exist in any capacity pretty soon. I don't value my life but I do value hers.

 

[Lifeaballache]

I have to say being forgotten about is one of my biggest fears. Why would I want to be forgotten about?

 

[hush hush]

I'm from the UK, and for me the more desirable methods are difficult to access, it does sound risky trying to get something like N, I read about someone receiving a wellness check. The more easily accessible methods, hanging and drowning do scare me, but eventually I will have to find a way to leave, as I cannot put up with this life for many more decades. At least the option of suicide is always there even if it can be difficult and awful to go through with.

After Brexit, suicide in the UK is even more difficult. Politicians in the UK are too entitled. A petition regarding suicide prevention is getting more popular.

Archived Petition: Make suicide prevention a compulsory part of the school curriculum.

We want suicide spoken about in schools in a safe and age-appropriate way. Speaking about suicide saves lives The Dept for Education are conducting a review of the RSHE curriculum; this petition calls on the DfE to include suicide prevention within the statutory guidelines of the new curriculum.

petition.parliament.uk

As long as the UK remains a member of the council of Europe (it can withdraw), suicide remains an essential human right. According to a case law in the European Court of Human Rights: "The Court considers that an individual's right to decide by what means and at what point his or her life will end, provided he or she is capable of freely reaching a decision on this question and acting in consequence, is one of the aspects of the right to respect for private life within the meaning of Article 8 of the Convention". (Haas vs Switzerland, paragraph 51)

HAAS v. SWITZERLAND [2011] ECHR 2422 (20 January 2011)

The problem is that courts refuse to intervene, so the parliament has to vote on recognizing this human right within the UK. However, politicians will never agree to this voluntarily. This presentation was from Dignitas visit in the UK http://www.dignitas.ch/images/stories/pdf/diginpublic/referat-bristol-museum-26012016.pdf
Even in Germany, where suicide has been recognized as a fundamental human right (regardless of health status, based on your personal assessment of life meaning), politicians refuse to regulate the practice.

Criminalisation of assisted suicide services unconstitutional

The general right of personality (Art. 2(1) in conjunction with Art. 1(1) of the Basic Law, Grundgesetz – GG) encompasses a right to a self-determined death. This right includes the freedom to take one’s own life and, as the case may be, resort to assistance provided voluntarily by third parties...

www.bundesverfassungsgericht.de

I cannot even help you as assisting in suicide is a criminal offense in our countries.
You can blame MPs and lords for this mess, but they are very good at ignoring people and very difficult to reach!

Couple found by police died as result of 'suicide pact'

'She didn’t want to be on this planet any longer and that is why they took the action they did'

www.wiltshiretimes.co.uk

 

[HermitLonerGuy]

no one would give a shit that im dead besides my parents.

 

[thedaywillcome]

I'm from the UK, and for me the more desirable methods are difficult to access, it does sound risky trying to get something like N, I read about someone receiving a wellness check. The more easily accessible methods, hanging and drowning do scare me, but eventually I will have to find a way to leave, as I cannot put up with this life for many more decades. At least the option of suicide is always there even if it can be difficult and awful to go through with.

For me its the concept of eternal sleep it confuses me. If I can solve this, then ctbgets much easier.

 

[universe]

I totally agree with you. I can't understand why people care so much about human life. They do a whole bunch of insignificant projects that they think are absolutely brilliant and momentous. I think they underestimate our insignificance. The other day, I was chatting with someone who told me that he did everything on a daily basis so that the bad guys did not win and that we should not do nothing about the problems of poverty in the world. I replied that this is what we were doing, in our developed country, to take advantage of resources to the maximum, to stuff ourselves and leave others in their mess. That concretely we were like the others, and that we did nothing for it. He looked very shocked, as if struck by reality.

And even if people are caught up in their daily lives, it's still difficult to forget that we live in the middle of the universe with a sun that will explode in 5 billion years and that the earthly life will disappear anyway.
Why are they so invested in human life when there is really nothing extraordinary to do and we are all going to die for eternity ? And that in 200 years every individual will be totally forgotten (except maybe celebrities)?
I don't understand what motivates people to live to be 80 years old. Basically, the days are more or less all the same, and even if we don't necessarily feel sad, that doesn't mean that existence is interesting.

 

[Gloom]

I don't want to be forgotten, it's not like I want people to think about me all the time or anything. I want people to think about why I died and therefore preventing others from ctb. I don't want them to make a massive effort, if my death makes people a little less shitty and cruel then it's worth it.

Humanity is insignificant compared to the rest of the universe but that doesn't mean our perspective of our world is meanless, if that makes sense. humans have never been so advanced like today. It's amazing that I can read opinions from people across the world and I'm grateful for it. I don't think the efforts from inventors in the past were a waste of time at all, after all they were trying to do what they thought was best (I don't know where I'm going with this lol).

I feel like we don't need to suffer at all, I think perspective is everything. even tho the earth is going to die prematurely and our circumstances are shit we can still make the most of it. you can be extremely suicidal and still try to make the most of your situation. you can be a fucking loser and still enjoy the best of humanity in whatever way you want, whether that's being a basement hermit or enjoying nature. If that wasn't true then why dear reader haven't you killed yourself yet? why do you read, react and make posts here? what is the point of this website? there are so many ways to kill yourself these days you honestly don't need advice from here, all you got to do is try and try and try until you get it right.

All life is spontaneous and will inevitably end. you didn't ask for this, no one did. the bugs under the ground didn't ask for this. It's okay to live a mundane life. enduring the pain of old age until the bitter end is valid because every breath is a fucking blessing and the end is near. anything is better than nothing

I'm not trying to come across mean or preachy I just think about this a lot

 

[evolutionerror]

How you feel is very relatable. Your post is almost verbatim what I'm telling myself when I'm trying to overcome my SI. This world is a prison, and everything is completely meaningless. We will all die one day, and to be remembered is meaningless. I don't understand people who are hell bent on creating their "legacy".

Thanks for sharing, hope you are doing well.