HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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I read posts about putting the sn powder in rolling paper and bombing it to bypass the taste but one member told me that this is a bad idea.
So would it even work and what are the disadvantages?
 
XXXWRLD

XXXWRLD

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May 22, 2023
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If I could roll up sn, and smoke on a pack of it as an end I would do it
 
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Praestat_Mori

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If you're "bombing it in rolled papers" first the paper and then the SN have to be dissolved in your stomach before it can reach the blood. This takes more time.

If you drink it already dissolved in water this process is much faster.
 
_Minsk

_Minsk

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Slower absorption, im not sure how much of a difference it would be in the end
 
Kerrtu

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Just thinking of the reaction of SN with intense heat ie fire - I'm definitely no expert nor am I a chemist but I wonder….

SN reaction to fire

A yellowish white crystalline solid. Noncombustible but will accelerate the burning of combustible material. If large quantities are involved in a fire or if the combustible material is finely divided, an explosion may result. If contaminated by ammonium compounds, spontaneous decomposition can occur and the resulting heat may ignite surrounding combustible material. Prolonged exposure heat may result in an explosion. Toxic oxides of nitrogen are produced in fires involving this material. Used as a food preservative, and to make other chemicals.

Special Hazards of Combustion Products: Toxic oxides of nitrogen may form in fires.

Behavior in Fire: May increase intensity of fire if in contact with combustible material. May melt and flow at elevated temperatures. (USCG, 1999)

Reactivity Profile

SODIUM NITRITE is an oxidizing agent. Mixtures with phosphorus, tin(II) chloride or other reducing agents may react explosively [Bretherick 1979 p. 108-109]. If contaminated by ammonium compounds, spontaneous decomposition can occur and resulting heat may ignite surrounding combustible material. Reacts with acids to form toxic nitrogen dioxide gas. Mixing with liquid ammonia forms dipotassium nitrite, which is very reactive and easily explosive [Mellor 2, Supp. 3:1566 1963]. Melting together wilh an ammonium salt leads to a violent explosion [Von Schwartz 1918 p. 299]. A mixture with potassium cyanide may cause an explosion. Noncombustible but accelerates the burning of all combustible material. If large quantities are involved in fire or if the combustible material is finely divided, an explosion may result. When a little ammonium sulfate is added to fused potassium nitrite, a vigorous reaction occurs attended by flame [Mellor 2:702. 1946-47].

For further reading if interested, click the link 'SN reaction to fire'
 
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lookingforsanctuary

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Why in paper and not in capsules? I've never understood that.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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That's a point I didn't think of in my post above. Swalling SN (crystals undissolved) could react with the hydrochloric acid (HCl) the the stomach to Nitrogendioxide ....
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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Just thinking of the reaction of SN with intense heat ie fire - I'm definitely no expert nor am I a chemist but I wonder….

SN reaction to fire

A yellowish white crystalline solid. Noncombustible but will accelerate the burning of combustible material. If large quantities are involved in a fire or if the combustible material is finely divided, an explosion may result. If contaminated by ammonium compounds, spontaneous decomposition can occur and the resulting heat may ignite surrounding combustible material. Prolonged exposure heat may result in an explosion. Toxic oxides of nitrogen are produced in fires involving this material. Used as a food preservative, and to make other chemicals.

Special Hazards of Combustion Products: Toxic oxides of nitrogen may form in fires.

Behavior in Fire: May increase intensity of fire if in contact with combustible material. May melt and flow at elevated temperatures. (USCG, 1999)

Reactivity Profile

SODIUM NITRITE is an oxidizing agent. Mixtures with phosphorus, tin(II) chloride or other reducing agents may react explosively [Bretherick 1979 p. 108-109]. If contaminated by ammonium compounds, spontaneous decomposition can occur and resulting heat may ignite surrounding combustible material. Reacts with acids to form toxic nitrogen dioxide gas. Mixing with liquid ammonia forms dipotassium nitrite, which is very reactive and easily explosive [Mellor 2, Supp. 3:1566 1963]. Melting together wilh an ammonium salt leads to a violent explosion [Von Schwartz 1918 p. 299]. A mixture with potassium cyanide may cause an explosion. Noncombustible but accelerates the burning of all combustible material. If large quantities are involved in fire or if the combustible material is finely divided, an explosion may result. When a little ammonium sulfate is added to fused potassium nitrite, a vigorous reaction occurs attended by flame [Mellor 2:702. 1946-47].

For further reading if interested, click the link 'SN reaction to fire'
Why should it come in contact with heat when swallowing it?
Why in paper and not in capsules? I've never understood that.
It gets absorbed faster in paper afaik.
That's a point I didn't think of in my post above. Swalling SN (crystals undissolved) could react with the hydrochloric acid (HCl) the the stomach to Nitrogendioxide ....
What exactly would happen then?
If you're "bombing it in rolled papers" first the paper and then the SN have to be dissolved in your stomach before it can reach the blood. This takes more time.

If you drink it already dissolved in water this process is much faster.
How much longer would it take?
I don't know how bad sn exactly tastes but if the extra absorb time is minimal than theoretically it could be less slow than drinking if you take long to drink it cause of the taste.
 
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Praestat_Mori

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May 21, 2023
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What exactly would happen then?
a chemical reaction:

NaNO2​ + HCl ↔ NaCl + HNO2​
Natriumchlorid + Salpetrige Säure

And I do not know how much longer it may take. If I decided for this method I'd follow the guide, as this seems to be the best way for this method.

 
Kerrtu

Kerrtu

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May 8, 2023
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Why should it come in contact with heat when swallowing it?

It gets absorbed faster in paper afaik.

What exactly would happen then?

How much longer would it take?
I don't know how bad sn exactly tastes but if the extra absorb time is minimal than theoretically it could be less slow than drinking if you take long to drink it cause of the taste.

I'm sorry, I was under the impression you were going to try or thinking of trying to smoke SN. I misunderstood - again, I'm sorry!
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Apr 24, 2023
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I'm sorry, I was under the impression you were going to try or thinking of trying to smoke SN. I misunderstood - again, I'm sorry!
No problem.
Bombing means putting a substance in rolling paper and swallowing it then.
I think trying to ctb by smoking any substance is an extremely bad idea.
 
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No problem.
Bombing means putting a substance in rolling paper and swallowing it then.
I think trying to ctb by smoking any substance is an extremely bad idea.

Very interesting re: "bombing" - I appreciate you explaining it to me. Also, yes - I agree, even as a smoker, that smoking a substance to ctb is an extremely bad idea. SN as an example - it would basically begin by melting the lungs.
 
Lawliet

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it's called rizla bombing. i wish i could find the thread because it's quite interesting. the problem is that you have to do several and it can cause gagging or get stuck in your throat
 
HopefulSleep

HopefulSleep

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Very interesting re: "bombing" - I appreciate you explaining it to me. Also, yes - I agree, even as a smoker, that smoking a substance to ctb is an extremely bad idea. SN as an example - it would basically begin by melting the lungs.
I am pretty sure smoking pure carfentanil has a high chance of death but snorting would be better besides that sadly no way to get pure carfentanil it is only used to lace other drugs.
it's called rizla bombing. i wish i could find the thread because it's quite interesting. the problem is that you have to do several and it can cause gagging or get stuck in your throat
Why with rizla papers exactly? Shouldn't other rolling papers or even toilet paper work?
 
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jolongone

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Feb 24, 2023
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I read posts about putting the sn powder in rolling paper and bombing it to bypass the taste but one member told me that this is a bad idea.
So would it even work and what are the disadvantages?
If you want to avoid the taste what about an enenama. I have read that it can be done and you don't get sick
 
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Mythographic1000

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May 6, 2023
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We called this parachuting back when I was younger
I read posts about putting the sn powder in rolling paper and bombing it to bypass the taste but one member told me that this is a bad idea.
So would it even work and what are the disadvantages?
 

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