Help Thoughts On Current Plan (3 methods combined)

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Apologies for any poor formatting, misuse of SS lingo, or just plain stupidity. I'm new to SS and dont plan on being here very long.

I'd like opinions in the probability of success for something I'm calling the triple whammy. This plan consists of 3 methods: SN, DXM + Alcohol OD, and self-strangulation via blood choke. I'd especially appreciate feedback from people knowledgeable on these substances and methods (good understanding of medicine and side effects, experience with attempting methods, long-time SS user and advisor, etc.) but anyone is welcome to chime in.

The Plan

1. Take appropriate dosage of Dramamine (for nausea), Tagamet (to raise stomach PH) and ibuprofen (for fighting off painful effects) 1 hour before other steps.
2. Prepare two drinks
   
   • SN SOLUTION:
     • 50 mL water
     • 25 g SN
   • DXM COCKTAIL
     • 355 mL cough syrup, 20 g DXM per 30 mL
     • 100 mL fireball, 33% ABV
     • 64 Coricidin HBP tablets, 30 g DXM per tablet
     • ESTIMATED DXM CONTENT: 2,157 g
3. CHUG! CHUG! CHUG!
   • SN solution first, cocktail immediately after
   • Probably the hardest and most up to chance step due to difficulty getting the drinks down and keeping them down.
4. Based on what I've learned, I feel it's safe to assume I have at LEAST 10 minutes before anything takes effect. I should need less than that to set up the blood choke. For more details on this method, go to the Suicide Resource Comiplation and check out the Night-Night MegaThread. To make it short, if done correctly the carotid arteries are compressed enough to stop blood flow from reaching the brain. Should pass out in under 30 seconds.
5. CTB, one way or another

Before anyone tries to say this plan is overkill:

• Yes, I know that using 3 methods at once might seem unnecessary to some, and some might think I should just stick to SN and keep it simple. I struggle with paranoia and self doubt and my greatest fear with this is a failed attempt. My hope is that each method together will act as a fail safe for the others.
• Yes, I know OTC OD methods are not recommended, including DXM. That is part of why I am not using DXM alone (mixing is with alcohol and doing it alongside the other methods) I've looked into the effects of DXM and I am fully prepared to face them.
• Yes, I know consuming alcohol with SN is generally not recommended because both together could increase the likelyhood of vomiting. I will take OTC nausea meds before attempting and pray for the best. I will also prepare backup materials in case I do vomit so I can try again.
• Yes, I know OTC nausea meds are generally considered not strong enough for the SN and it is recommended to get a stronger antiemetic. I dont have the time or money for that, I'm already stretching it as is (unless someone knows of an affordable and accessible option). If others have attempted with no antiemetic, I hope I can get through with a weak one.
• Yes, I know all of what I listed above isnt inherently smart or a satisfactory excuse. While I will try to avoid pain, I am not most concerned with CTB painlessly. My goal is to GURANTEE CTB. That is why I am willing to use excessive means and work through the undesirable side effects.

Any comments, feedback, or suggestions are appreciated. If you have concerns or feel I have not properly addressed the ones above, please reach out. Anything is appreciated, thank you.

 

[noidea1984]

What kind of pill has 30 GRAMS of something inside of it? The biggest pills I know of are #000 capsules, and those almost never exceed 1600mg. Anyways:
There REALLY is a reason why OTC medications are a bad way to attempt an overdose. Their chances of actually working, even when combined with other stuff is pretty slim. Simply ditch the DXM+alcohol part and instead prepare some SN "backups" if you're worried about failing from vomiting. You'll have better chances AND less suffering this way

 

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What kind of pill has 30 GRAMS of something inside of it? The biggest pills I know of are #000 capsules, and those almost never exceed 1600mg. Anyways:
There REALLY is a reason why OTC medications are a bad way to attempt an overdose. Their chances of actually working, even when combined with other stuff is pretty slim. Simply ditch the DXM+alcohol part and instead prepare some SN "backups" if you're worried about failing from vomiting. You'll have better chances AND less suffering this way

Embarrassing as fuck but I did misread that label on the hbp meds and I don't know measurements for shit anyways fair enough. I think I was fixated on the dxm method because it was the first one I was considering and I technically have most of the supplies already. I didn't even know SN was an option until a few days ago when I ran across SS. Do you still think the blood choke part is a good failsafe? I liked it as an option because you really can pass out in just a few seconds and then be gone within minutes, but I guess my concern would be not doing it properly, passing out but not actually losing blood flow, and then vomiting while unconscious. I still like it as an option though and would like to have at least 1 method that can be used in tandem with the SN. I don't trust just SN on its own because 1. I have trust issues and 2. I'm terrified my body will just keep rejecting it over and over and it will be wasted effort.

 

[Mooncry]

I would never ever, ever in a million years be able to keep that much DXM down, not to mention all the other stuff. I don't care how much dramamine I took. That's a recipe for some violent puking in my opinion. I think it's way overkill.

 

[notreallybored]

ב''ה, y'all are weird these days. On the dextromethorphan that's roughly high standard recreational amounts if you just couldn't paste the m in mg.

If HBP still has chlorpheniramine, that's a fairly sedating antihistamine and that's going to be a lot of it. Also in about 40 minutes to an hour you'll be on the come-up to a nearly "anaesthetic" DXM trip that in absence of other substances would have you mostly immobile for let's say 2 to 4 hours once it peaks and 'pleasantly confused' for, how about the following 4 and the hour leading in.

I just kind of turn up and rank these ideas on subjective 'perceived peacefulness,' so given the 40 minutes to get through the stomach and liver business with the recreational component here.. if this is truly what you want to do and your stomach can handle all those pills and glycerin syrup, there's a certain moment in DXM intoxication where the sense of taste is dulled, but motivation might be dulled as well. Mostly all I can say is that, if experienced, with all that chlorpheniramine adding Dramamine seems overkill and two of the Coricidin earlier would have the same effect.

It has been forever but for being pills, Coricidin would be on the longer part of the 40 minutes, within an hour to hour-and-a-half your brain would really be on the way to outer (inner) space, while syrup is probably going to show first effects right around that 40 minute mark and ramp up over the following half hour.

This might not be too bad if you have a strong stomach, yet it sounds weirdly dysphoric for having done this 'for fun' back in the day, because DXM can be a bit stupefying and having a handful of brain cells operating on 'bad flavor tastes bad' if the SN isn't terribly pleasant.. it's a funny thing to comment on, it seems like it would make for one of those 'that was the less fun parts of the trip' moments.

So with experience, if motivation could be kept up, timing was perfect and your stomach was well used to heroic amounts of DXM and that much 'pill candy' to get it in you, maybe I'm able to call this "relatively not unpleasant," while the tripping part of my brain is reeling at the consent-with-self part (being responsible with DXM is, y'know, knowing not to start cooking with flame or doing anything else you're going to regret when things like 'walking' may become impossible for 4 hours)..

Not to walk anyone into an awful benzo addiction but by way of comparison, benzos, you're going to think you're "all there" for whatever you're doing, at least before you pass out, and the actual quality of your decision making will be drunk, while DXM.. for the conscious parts, has a certain intense awareness you're not all there, so the fractured consciousness of it can amplify both the 'fun thing is fun!' and 'bad tasting thing tastes bad!' kind of moments to the entirety of your consciousness, in moments that may seem to drag on forever during it. (Whereas, for their other problems, benzos don't have DXM perceptual time dilation so much.)

Not sure I'd do this combo as much as DXM like whatever all these goofballs are doing with ketamine these days distracts from the bleak reality of actual life and might lead to second thoughts, while incredibly fucked up on DXM and hardly able to talk for hours, and that could be sloppy and messy, yet if you could maintain absolute certainty during it it might not be half bad, and with absolutely perfect timing after the DXM starts to hit, maybe everything would come together at that moment the DXM would have you ready to lay down and be not all there for a while anyway. But, 'time dilation' up until that point so might not be a first choice, even though all that chlorpheniramine via coricidin makes it yet sleepier..

So y'all know what you're in for if you choose this route, anyway. I don't really need to encourage further experimentation but it would be helpful, as with alcohol, to know if you're one of those people who gets pukey / nauseous from that much 'medicine' or ride it out like it ain't no thing and lose any nausea when it takes effect.

When doing this for funsies the approach used to be, y'know, a dozen coricidin down with a swig of diet soda or flat drink because plenty of sugar in the pills and syrups already, wait 5 minutes, repeat, and that's a bit easier on the stomach while still reaching the desired effect (and prolonging the peak by the 30 minutes or so it takes to space out all the pill gobbling).

Edit to add and clean up the replying to myself afterthought:

ב''ה, I'm going to add I believe I've noticed that while pharmacy chain HBP still has chlorpheniramine maleate there's now dollar store "HBP" that doesn't, while still reasonably being a HBP product for not having blood pressure raising decongestants. Read the labels, I sure had some dumb moments in my youth thinking I did, and guaifenesin ain't no thing to me but has a very metallic flavor and seems to upset enough folks' stomachs that if you're not used to that, might as well avoid.

 

[slowdance]

Not super advanced in pharmacology but I think the alcohol and the SN are going to cancel each other out. You're highly likely to throw up everything if you add alcohol, especially with only an OTC anti-emetic. The likelihood of ODing is pretty low. Maybe the choking combined with the SN. But I'm not sure if choking will cause you to throw up the SN