They "saved" a life of a teenager who was hanging using his belt

[lofistos345]

Trying to stop shootings, school tip lines uncover a teen suicide crisis

Police say the anonymous reporting systems have helped them save the lives of suicidal teens.

www.nbcnews.com

Can someone explain the belt hanging method? Do you have to hang yourself or just apply pressure? How come he was saved? I thought in 5 minutes you will have been dead!

 

[Worndown]

You have between 3 and 6 minutes without breathing until the brain starts taking damage. You do not want the damage.

 

[nbn]

Trying to stop shootings, school tip lines uncover a teen suicide crisis

Police say the anonymous reporting systems have helped them save the lives of suicidal teens.

www.nbcnews.com

Can someone explain the belt hanging method? Do you have to hang yourself or just apply pressure? How come he was saved? I thought in 5 minutes you will have been dead!

They did not mention the time period. It could be that it may be one or two minutes before the officers arrived

You have between 3 and 6 minutes without breathing until the brain starts taking damage. You do not want the damage.

It just my dream which does not happen. There should be a law where the people saving the person from suicide should bear all the cost if there are any major health issue from the saved suicide attempt. Then all the f.... docs and f.... people stops saving the suicidal people. They nver know the pain of the suicidal person. They think that they saved the person,but they dont think that the person saved will be in worst condition than before in most cases

 

[Ghost2211]

You're alive for quite some time. I wouldn't call that state of existence alive though since the process of brain death begins after only a few minutes. People for some reason think it's a good idea to "save" someone with no pulse during a hanging, but they are likely to have a range of disabilities.

Save yourself the trouble and get your DNR paperwork done, and have it pinned to your clothing so paramedics can see it.

 

[k75]

Save yourself the trouble and get your DNR paperwork done, and have it pinned to your clothing so paramedics can see it.

They'll most likely ignore it. No guarantees.

 

[TAW122]

I read the article and am disgusted at how they are using the anonymous safety tip line to force their pro-life and anti-choice, anti-suicide values onto suicidal people. This is one of the reasons that when I attempt, if I decide to send any letters or notifications, everything will be sent via delayed email, text, or forms of communication, and preferably right before my attempt. Dependent on the method, the delay could be much longer (to ensure success at all costs, leaving nothing to chance) like several days in case of failure or mishaps (shouldn't be an issue with firearm since I'm very very confident I WILL succeed with a shotgun).

And last but not least, the shitty obligatory suicide prevention number, text, and link.

@nbn Agreed and 110% support having a law that any person who is involved in saving a suicidal person should bear the costs that are incurred from said incident (medical and hospital bills, ambulance bills, other bills, loss of job, etc.). Also, it should allow a suicidal person to be able to sue for damages (during and even afterwards) resulting from such intervention. Agreed with your last few sentences, these people have no clue (and sometimes even feel powerful about themselves for saving suicidal people and then sticking it to them). I like to think that if suicidal people really caused havoc and trouble (not necessarily violence and destruction) enough to fuck with the resources and be as much of a burden on society, then perhaps people 'may' think twice before forcing intervention on the 'suicidal' person. And yes, most oftenly than not, these people don't just get better, they get worse and sadly you just don't hear about it because it is not talked about much since it's not newsworthy nor do people like to accept the truth.

@RoseyBird I wouldn't trust the medical/healthcare professionals to honor it, chances are they would ignore it and then trying to hold them accountable will be slimmer than trying to win the lottery.

@k75 Yeah sadly, that's the case a majority of the time. It's better to succeed in one's attempt than to fail and end up with the ramifications and consequences that result from it.

 

[Ghost2211]

They'll most likely ignore it. No guarantees.

Depending on where you are it's a legal document. Your family can sue if they go against it and you're messed up.

 

[TAW122]

Your family can sue if they go against it and you're messed up.

Yes, I have heard of such a case like that, though I think most people's families aren't really pro-choice or have the means and will to see through the whole legal process. This is one example where there is a family that cares about the DNR enough to sue about it, but I think those are far and few.

 

[Ghost2211]

Yes, I have heard of such a case like that, though I think most people's families aren't really pro-choice or have the means and will to see through the whole legal process. This is one example where there is a family that cares about the DNR enough to sue about it, but I think those are far and few.

True, I think the easiest solution is just don't get interrupted :)

 

[k75]

Depending on where you are it's a legal document. Your family can sue if they go against it and you're messed up.

True, but if you read up on it, suicides cause an ethical delimma that messes everything up. There have been a lot of discussions on here about it. Here's one quote from someone who said they had experience. #4:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/do-not-resuscitate-dnr.13672/post-270693

 

[Ghost2211]

True, but if you read up on it, suicides cause an ethical delimma that messes everything up. There have been a lot of discussions on here about it. Here's one quote from someone who said they had experience. #4:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/do-not-resuscitate-dnr.13672/post-270693

that's awful, but then again society does look at us as insane animals that need to be controlled.

 

[Heart of Ice]

They did not mention the time period. It could be that it may be one or two minutes before the officers arrived

It just my dream which does not happen. There should be a law where the people saving the person from suicide should bear all the cost if there are any major health issue from the saved suicide attempt. Then all the f.... docs and f.... people stops saving the suicidal people. They nver know the pain of the suicidal person. They think that they saved the person,but they dont think that the person saved will be in worst condition than before in most cases

This is massively offtopic, but this reminds me of the movie Incredibles, where the main character gets sued for saving a suicidal person and breaking his back in the process.This leads into him having to go into hiding and stop his heroics. Pretty dark stuff for a movie that has a young audience.

Agreed and 110% support having a law that any person who is involved in saving a suicidal person should bear the costs that are incurred from said incident (medical and hospital bills, ambulance bills, other bills, loss of job, etc.). Also, it should allow a suicidal person to be able to sue for damages (during and even afterwards) resulting from such intervention.

This sounds like a dumb law. We may have spite for these mythical "pro-lifers", but we shouldn't be having fantasies about punishing people who are just trying to do the right thing, because this is what it sounds like to me.

If I were walking down the street and saw someone on the street, his bones mangled and his face kissing the pavement, should I just walk by presuming he jumped off a building to kill himself, because doing otherwise, I might be responsible? How does one know who is in trouble because of an accident and who has tried to commit suicide? What would qualify as "saving"? Would someone be slapped with someone else's medical bills because they called the emergency number?