They can ban me but they won't argue with me

[Tintypographer]

The angry Karen-Kelli mom's of fix the 26 for some reason won't engage with me. I suspect it's because they can't come up with any type of argument to counter why people come here who want to talk about ways to end their life, think about it and understand and sort out how the feel that way after all forms of therapy have completely failed.

The repost and repost and repost the single NY times article and few podcasts and uruguay headlines as though bold action is being taken.

I'm sure the severely depressed and anxious people one here are thrilled to hear about the man hours taken to Dox a few forum owners and bring in the calvary of Uruguay division of interpol cyber crimes while suicide remains one of the highest killers of people in the USA and mental health dollars, resources, science and efforts to improve it lag back to the 80s.

I'm agreeing to speak to you in a moderated forum that's recorded with a university professor chairing the discussion and recording every word. You can read the debate questions and approve beforehand and we will focus on mental health, data and numbers, science of depression and anything else but you won't get to hide behind "INCELS" or "Death cult" or anything else. You will have to back up all of your arguments with data. How many youth die in America today of suicide? What percentage of those youth use firearms? (Answer, over 60), where did they learn that guns could cause suicide:

Movies
Books
TV shows
Video games
Magazines

Let's talk about the real problem in this world today

Just reach out! I know you're watching!

 

[Ankou]

No point trying to reason with those narcissist as they live in their own special world. The Karens expect us to bend backwards for them and close the forum simply because their loved one was on here. However when one of us here is also bereaved by suicide, do we get the sympathy they get? Of course not, the prolifers have it worse! /s

Instead this is the disrespect I got, they don't actually care about the many other poor families who lost someone to suicide if it doesn't fit their agenda, they only care about themselves. Also, I can actually answer yes to two of these three questions lmao

 

[Sherri]

Keli has so much hate in her, Marquis did a twitter account ages ago to reason with her. But it was hate and hate and hate, some users wentbthere but Had the same username than here, she mistreated them so badly, I felt so sad the way she spoke with our SS members. Screenshots of a particular member, not among us anymore. Then Marquis closed the twitter account and said, you know what guys. We shouldn't fight fire with fire. He was very right like always.

No point trying to reason with those narcissist as they live in their own special world. The Karens expect us to bend backwards for them and close the forum simply because their loved one was on here. However when one of us here is also bereaved by suicide, do we get the sympathy they get?

Of course not, the prolifers have it worse! /s
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so much hate, why???
Her twitter page is locked now we can't see it , in my case I would see all her interviews and hate spread about us. Now you have to ask to join. I don't have twitter and crossed my mind to make an account and join just to see the BS going on there, but i know it would only make me sad and angry so better not. Giving her my face palm.

 

[Circles]

Plus this thread that someone shared recently where StopSS wished suicide for another member:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...l-suicide-to-one-of-our-former-members.67486/

How is that not 'encouraging' ???

 

[chocolatebar]

No point trying to reason with those narcissist as they live in their own special world. The Karens expect us to bend backwards for them and close the forum simply because their loved one was on here. However when one of us here is also bereaved by suicide, do we get the sympathy they get? Of course not, the prolifers have it worse! /s
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Instead this is the disrespect I got, they don't actually care about the many other poor families who lost someone to suicide if it doesn't fit their agenda, they only care about themselves. Also, I can actually answer yes to two of these three questions lmao

Did it happen in this forum? Is she an user here?

By the way, did you call her "whiny prolife bitch"? We don't cure hate with more hate...

 

[Ankou]

Did it happen in this forum? Is she an user here?

By the way, did you call her "whiny prolife bitch"? We don't cure hate with more hate...

I didn't call Melanie a whiny prolife bitch, I was referring to someone else. Why is that your concern and how is it relavent?

 

[cambrai33]

Plus this thread that someone shared recently where StopSS wished suicide for another member:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/thre...l-suicide-to-one-of-our-former-members.67486/

How is that not 'encouraging' ???

She was more in celebration of Rues pain rather than encouraging Rue to ctb. I don't see the clear encouraging there at all unless I am missing something

 

[chocolatebar]

I didn't call Melanie a whiny prolife bitch, I was referring to someone else. Why is that your concern and how is it relavent?

Oh, sorry. I misunderstood it then.

 

[Sherri]

The fixers were putting up bed banners sheets written stop SS on some busy highways, lol

 

[Simba]

The angry Karen-Kelli mom's of fix the 26 for some reason won't engage with me. I suspect it's because they can't come up with any type of argument to counter why people come here who want to talk about ways to end their life, think about it and understand and sort out how the feel that way after all forms of therapy have completely failed.

The repost and repost and repost the single NY times article and few podcasts and uruguay headlines as though bold action is being taken.

I'm sure the severely depressed and anxious people one here are thrilled to hear about the man hours taken to Dox a few forum owners and bring in the calvary of Uruguay division of interpol cyber crimes while suicide remains one of the highest killers of people in the USA and mental health dollars, resources, science and efforts to improve it lag back to the 80s.

I'm agreeing to speak to you in a moderated forum that's recorded with a university professor chairing the discussion and recording every word. You can read the debate questions and approve beforehand and we will focus on mental health, data and numbers, science of depression and anything else but you won't get to hide behind "INCELS" or "Death cult" or anything else. You will have to back up all of your arguments with data. How many youth die in America today of suicide? What percentage of those youth use firearms? (Answer, over 60), where did they learn that guns could cause suicide:

Movies
Books
TV shows
Video games
Magazines

Let's talk about the real problem in this world today

Just reach out! I know you're watching!

Exactly. Theyve also doxxed me couple times and their latest of doxxing me AND threatening authorities n jail 14 years on me. They know my adress from reading posts of mine to different groups im in on fb. They also know my real name too. My advice to you all: lock every single account youve got.. but them again thats what i tried doing yet even that didn't help. They just keep on saying authorities are on their way and that im part of the problem. They don't care. Its just a facade.

 

[WatermelonMel]

The angry Karen-Kelli mom's of fix the 26 for some reason won't engage with me. I suspect it's because they can't come up with any type of argument

They won't listen to anything that doesn't align with their hatred for SS. I DM'd one of them a long time ago about why I use this forum and how it helps me, and they never responded.

 

[Simba]

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They won't listen to anything that doesn't align with their hatred for SS. I DM'd one of them a long time ago about why I use this forum and how it helps me, and they never responded.

Cause they're full of hate. The want for revenge and the thought that if SS is shut down itll all be better goes with them.. instead of grieving in a healthy manner they go out of their way to try destroy the only place there is for people like us.

 

[WatermelonMel]

Cause they're full of hate. The want for revenge and the thought that if SS is shut down itll all be better goes with them..

True that, can't reason with haters.

 

[Tintypographer]

I've offered! And I'm contacting the same US reps, making phone calls and letting them know with my real name not to listen to them, emailing state and US reps about mental health and letting them know just how angry and completely irrational she is. If she won't confront mental health from a realistic perspective I'll counter by approaching everyone she approaches and send them data, talk about how lost we are and how the posts here don't encourage suicide and comfort people. And I've lost a daughter to suicide as well, I work and I'm not an incel go to church and don't use drugs or alcohol and I never seen out or try to convince people to join this forum to post.

I do have treatment resistant or even treatment proof clinical depression with constant suicidal ideation. I would also never tell anyone how to get or use a system to take their own life and most on here would not either.

The bizarre portrayal is not reality and I can show that.

Bring it on! Let's have a fair argument that is recorded where you're not allowed to shout down the opponent with sound bytes that make you and your small number of supporters feel better. You have to prep real data, real evidence specifically to back up your claims. And I'll argue and get equal time to produce my evidence, data and details. Come on!!!

 

[Ankou]

I've lost a daughter to suicide as well

I'm so sorry

 

[Tintypographer]

Here are some details about youth and suicide (under 24 years of age)

WHY DOES THIS MATTER?

Suicide is a serious public health problem among all age groups. Among youth, it exacts an enormous toll due to the significant years of potential life lost. In 2018, suicide was the second-leading cause of death among 10- to 24 year-olds.

Youth suicidal ideation, attempt and completion are on the rise. Far more adolescents have suicidal thoughts or attempt suicide and survive than those who die by suicide. Results from the 2019 Youth Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance System show that 18.8% of high school students seriously considered attempting suicide and 8.9% actually attempted suicide. The cost of suicide attempts in the United States in 2019 was estimated to be $70 billion.

Risk factors associated with suicide among adolescents include:

• Psychiatric disorders such as major depressive, bipolar, substance use and conduct disorders.
• Psychiatric comorbidity, especially the combination of mood, disruptive and substance abuse disorders.
• Family history of depression or suicide.
• Loss of a parent to death or divorce.
• Physical and/or sexual abuse.
• Lack of a support network.
• Feelings of social isolation.
• Bullying.

WHO IS AFFECTED?

The teen suicide rate is higher among:

• Males than females. However, females have more attempts compared with males.
• American Indian/Alaska Native adolescents compared to other race/ethnicity groups. White adolescents have a higher teen suicide rate compared with Asian/Pacific Islander adolescents, Hispanic adolescents and Black adolescents.
• Suicide attempts are higher among students who identified as gay, lesbian or bisexual compared with students who identified as heterosexual.

That's real data from the CDC!


It's not made up crap about death cults and incels and recruiting.

And it's not improving!!!!!
Look at that graph!


It's been going up since before sanctioned suicide even opened! Up and up and all the effort is spent on yelling about death cults!!!
We need open dialogue, more effort to counteract dialogue, more understanding of sexuality and gender in teens and less dissociation by parents and authority figures.

 

[Simba]

I've offered! And I'm contacting the same US reps, making phone calls and letting them know with my real name not to listen to them, emailing state and US reps about mental health and letting them know just how angry and completely irrational she is. If she won't confront mental health from a realistic perspective I'll counter by approaching everyone she approaches and send them data, talk about how lost we are and how the posts here don't encourage suicide and comfort people. And I've lost a daughter to suicide as well, I work and I'm not an incel go to church and don't use drugs or alcohol and I never seen out or try to convince people to join this forum to post.

I do have treatment resistant or even treatment proof clinical depression with constant suicidal ideation. I would also never tell anyone how to get or use a system to take their own life and most on here would not either.

The bizarre portrayal is not reality and I can show that.

Bring it on! Let's have a fair argument that is recorded where you're not allowed to shout down the opponent with sound bytes that make you and your small number of supporters feel better. You have to prep real data, real evidence specifically to back up your claims. And I'll argue and get equal time to produce my evidence, data and details. Come on!!!

I completely agree with you.. if you need any help im happy to do so - i have over 11 thousand shots of them been mean to us all ,they can shove their fake info somewhere else :/

 

[Tintypographer]

The behavior is exactly the bullying that causes people to move into a cycle of depression.

the data shows a rise in suicide from well before sanctioned suicide was even a thing.
The behavior that fix the 26 employs is textbook bullying tactics: Doxing, repeating visceral phrases, gathering a group of like minded bullies. Let's see what the link is between bullying and suicide:

What Do the Statistics Say?

• Nearly one-quarter of tenth graders who reported being bullied also reported having made a suicide attempt in the past 12 months, according to a Washington State Healthy Youth Survey.
• Half of the 12th graders who reported being bullied also reported feeling sad and hopeless almost every day for two weeks in a row, according to the Washington State Healthy Youth Survey.
• Among 15- to 24-year-olds, suicide is one of the leading causes of death, according to Suicide Awareness Voices for Education. Additionally, 16 percent of students consider suicide; 13 percent create a plan, and 8 percent have made a serious attempt.
• Cyberbullying caused kids to consider suicide more than traditional bullying according to a study in JAMA Pediatrics.

Hmmm. Who is doing harm to others on a site where people come to understand their negative emotions away from platitudes.

 

[Tintypographer]

Hey Kelli Karen's:

Why do teens commit suicide????

Hey Kelli Karen's:

Why do teens commit suicide????

According to experts Michelle Moskos, Jennifer Achilles, and Doug Gray, causes of suicidal distress include psychological, environmental and social factors. Mental illness is the leading risk factor for suicide. Suicide risk factors vary with age, gender, ethnic group, family dynamics and stressful life events. According to a 2016 fact sheet distributed by the National Institute of Mental Health, research shows that risk factors for suicide include depression and other mental disorders, and substance-abuse disorders (often in combination with other mental disorders). More than 90 percent of people who die by suicide have these risk factors. The risk for suicide frequently occurs in combination with external circumstances that seem to overwhelm at-risk teens who are unable to cope with the challenges of adolescence because of predisposing vulnerabilities such as mental disorders. Examples of stressors are disciplinary problems, interpersonal losses, family violence, sexual orientation confusion, physical and sexual abuse and being the victim of bullying.

This from the American Psychological Association!

No where does it say:

A leading cause of suicide is online forums.

If someone wants to help prevent suicide, 1) recognize warning signs, 2) help them get very competent treatment and 3) ensure that the stressors, bullying, violence and other issues are kept down.

Mental illness including depression is the primary factor in cases of suicide.