There is no excuse for what Hamas is doing

[sunny]

 

[sserafim]

Do you think it's going to become a world war?

 

[EpistemicSloth]

Do you think it's going to become a world war?

Probably not, but it's possible. It's been really depressing looking at the news reports about the details. It's complete hell over there.

 

[lwlaiet8887]

I don't agree with Hamas, infact, I understand the Israeli perspective a lot more (Trust me I know the history very well) but what they're doing isn't much any different then any human blood fuelled territory conflict and Israel isn't innocent from their perspective at all (understandbly) but it's their poor conduct that ended up in them being such a dire situation. Humans are shit bottom line I know very insightful.

 

[pole]

what Hamas did was awful.

at the same time, what Israel has done for the last 75 years to these people is beyond horrific, especially in regards to what they're doing right now in response.

 

[IBM0000]

It's outrageous what Israel is and has been doing all with the support of the "Free" world.

 

[pole]

It's outrageous what Israel is and has been doing all with the support of the "Free" world.

honestly heartbreaking.

unfortunately, it will continue to get much worse before there's any glimmer of hope for a resolution to the conflict.

and as you mentioned, that is further bloodshed on the hands of the regime and support from the international community for a response rather than solution to end the conflict.

all of which is something citizens of Israel have been protesting for years about, especially Israeli newspapers and opposing political leaders, who had been warning about fear of retaliation, screams that went unheard. I cannot begin to imagine how they feel.

 

[Dot]

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[Boudika]

Do you think it's going to become a world war?

Palestine and Israel have been fighting each other since Israel was created. Unless one side accidentally kills a citizen of another country or hits a plane evacuating foreigners, there is unlikely to be a world war
Also agree with the post. I saw videos on twitter (BIG TW) How hamas terrorists paraded a Jewish woman on the street who had been raped so many times that her sweatpants were soaked with blood, or footage of bodies. In both they shouted "Allah Akbar". Nothing can justify such disgusting crimes.

 

[Dot]

Palestine and Israel have been fighting each other since Israel was created. Unless one side accidentally kills a citizen of another country or hits a plane evacuating foreigners, there is unlikely to be a world war
Also agree with the post. I saw videos on twitter (BIG TW) How hamas terrorists paraded a Jewish woman on the street who had been raped so many times that her sweatpants were soaked with blood, or footage of bodies. In both they shouted "Allah Akbar". Nothing can justify such disgusting crimes.

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[pole]

= 1 thng 2 attck miltry targts bt in attckng civlians thy gurnteed th/ deths of 1000s mre ppl

Am honstly nt sre wht thy thght thy wre goin2 achve othr thn thr own dsructn

Slf d/ nt agree wth Isrl actns eithr - b4 or aftr th/ attck

Cuttng off watr & elctrcty & accss t/ spplies t/ civiln poplatns wld b a wr-crme n.ewhre els

for them, the purpose was to revolt.

as many Israelis have echoed, when you push people to the brink, they're willing to pay any price for a moment of freedom. a response that Israeli journalists and opposing politicians have been warning about for years.

unfortunately, like you've alluded to, it will achieve nothing, but provide a pretext for the regime to manufacture a case for genocide and a "second Nakba" rather than a planned military operation against Hamas fighters and a proportional response.

 

[real human being]

It's a vicious cycle of hatred.

 

[Left]

True. I'm sorry but the IDF has the moral high-ground here compared to Hamas. As far as I'm seeing, Israel has been attempting to minimize civilian casualties while Hamas intentionally targets civilians. Hamas also hides behind their own civilians; talk about a war crime. Hamas has an incentive for Palestinian civilians to die. Anyone defending Hamas in any way is doing a disservice to the Palestinian people. Legitimizing and equating the terrorist actions of Hamas to the general struggle of the Palestinian people should be offensive to any pro-Palestine advocate.

 

[IBM0000]

True. I'm sorry but the IDF has the moral high-ground here compared to Hamas. As far as I'm seeing, Israel has been attempting to minimize civilian casualties while Hamas intentionally targets civilians. Hamas also hides behind their own civilians; talk about a war crime. Hamas has an incentive for Palestinian civilians to die. Anyone defending Hamas in any way is doing a disservice to the Palestinian people. Legitimizing and equating the terrorist actions of Hamas to the general struggle of the Palestinian people should be offensive to any pro-Palestine advocate.

And what Israel has been doing up until now is the alternative to Hamas. Thanks but NO thanks.

 

[Left]

And what Israel has been doing up until now is the alternative to Hamas. Thanks but NO thanks.

Certainly many innocent Palestinians have died at the hands of the Israeli Defense Forces. Morality aside, Israel has a strategic incentive to minimize civilian deaths while Hamas has the incentive to get their own civilians killed. Hamas has a reason to intentionally blur the line between legitimate military targets and civilian areas. Is there something in particular you're referring to?

 

[cosifantutti]

Israel is very important to the west. America gives them 4billion in aid every year. Strategically Israel is very important for the US. It allows them to police the middle east.

 

[Lys_C15H25N3O_d3]

interestingly is why no one is yet talking about the massive intelligence failure + the liturgy of yom kippur / sukkot
for now is: "time for war"

"We have abolished all laws of war" ... (even the pentagon colonel seemed a bit tense and tried to emphasize "he has no doubt IDF is a professional force and will defend itself respecting the geneva convention"

Why daesh has never attacked israel before? now they're named the "daesh of gaza". while both groups "fundamentally differ ; one wants a state under sharia law, whereas hamas is gaza's military wing" which overthrew in the 90s fatah (Yasser al Afat was more into "diplomacy and not armed struggle or resistance) and after taking gaza entirely in 2006 . the blockade begun....


Nevertheless this attack on civilians was (i've seen a lot of footage, those guys really wanted to stir up a hornet's nest.. its one of the worst stuff i've seen not even going to describe but thats not in the interest of palestinian people i believe, no common civilian would approve the rampage, fact is how they let it? why no one has mentioned that yet on media? i like how the indian coverage is being impartial and asking difficult questions,, even sometimes "cutting" the enthusiasm in which some IDF officers detail "how they are going to KILL" etc etc etc...

usually we hear "terrorists will be destroyed" but , "killed, exterminated one by one" hehehe that has been awkward even to some reporters


They may have bombed airports in aleppo and damascus but there's a ton of people coming on a convoy.. it seems everyone is "heading the same way" which way how to know? one can only wonder....

 

[Left]

Israel is very important to the west. America gives them 4billion in aid every year. Strategically Israel is very important for the US. It allows them to police the middle east.

The U.S. uses Israel as a pawn and Iran, which is backed by Russia and China, uses Hamas as a pawn. Although, the Israel-U.S. alliance is much more apparent and strong.

The belief is that this entire Hamas terrorist attack wasn't some organic, grassroots, desperate response to oppression in the Gaza Strip, it was an Iranian-backed operation with the intent to disrupt talks between Saudi Arabia and Israel. It's not beneficial for Saudi Arabia to attempt to normalize relations with Israel while the IDF is killing Palestinian arabs.

 

[The Eeyorish One]

I don't blame the native Americans for fighting back against their oppressors, I don't blame cp victims for fighting back against their rapists, so no, I don't blame Palestine for fighting back finally after decades of genocide. Fuck around and find out.

True. I'm sorry but the IDF has the moral high-ground here compared to Hamas. As far as I'm seeing, Israel has been attempting to minimize civilian casualties while Hamas intentionally targets civilians. Hamas also hides behind their own civilians; talk about a war crime. Hamas has an incentive for Palestinian civilians to die. Anyone defending Hamas in any way is doing a disservice to the Palestinian people. Legitimizing and equating the terrorist actions of Hamas to the general struggle of the Palestinian people should be offensive to any pro-Palestine advocate.

I'm sorry but carpet bombing fleeing civilians in areas Israel told them to evacuate to, bombing areas not controlled by hamas, spraying herbicides over Palestinian farm land, restricting and controlling water, food, electricity, and medical care, taking Palestinian children as political prisoners and threatening their families, etc etc very clearly paints Israel as the genocidal oppressor that they are, and Palestine as victim who's finally had enough. The Palestinians are forced to be out there performing surgeries in the street with no anesthesia, writing their names on body parts so they can be identified later, etc. Israel is a horrific apartheid state and anyone who supports them should be shamed out of civil society.

 

[Saxenomorph]

Palestine and Israel have been fighting each other since Israel was created. Unless one side accidentally kills a citizen of another country or hits a plane evacuating foreigners, there is unlikely to be a world war
Also agree with the post. I saw videos on twitter (BIG TW) How hamas terrorists paraded a Jewish woman on the street who had been raped so many times that her sweatpants were soaked with blood, or footage of bodies. In both they shouted "Allah Akbar". Nothing can justify such disgusting crimes.

That's why I don't give a damn about them, if they don't want violence they shouldn't have attacked in the first place.

 

[Don’tDoxMe]

Hamas is evil, but they exist as a consequence of the land of Israel being occupied, in the same way that an infection would come from rubbing contaminates into an open wound

 

[letmejoindeath]

Wars over religion and ways of life will always exist.

The stronger country will take over the smaller country. History repeats itself.

Human nature will never change.

There are no saints in war. It's always easy to call out the flaws of the other side and justify your own.

Both sides believe they are the good guys.

I just wish Congress would quit printing fucking money for other countries. Now we are supplying weapons to destroy one country , while shelling out money for aid in the country they are destroying.

Like wtf do they need all these weapons and money for? Aren't governments supposed to budget for this shit? Why does the US always have to pay for every god damn thing on Earth?

How is Hamas or Israel any of our concerns in the first place?

 

[real person]

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i've seen this meme everywhere what does it mean

 

[nearlynovember]

.... L take // Free Palestine

 

[Lost Magic]

The way I see it is Hamas are terrorists and Benjamin Netanyahu is a far-right extremist. Israel and Palestine will never peacefully co-exist with crappy people leading their people on either side. That's my opinion on the unholy nightmare that is going on over there.

 

[Pessimist]

.... L take // Free Palestine

I don't blame the native Americans for fighting back against their oppressors, I don't blame cp victims for fighting back against their rapists, so no, I don't blame Palestine for fighting back finally after decades of genocide. Fuck around and find out.

I'm sorry but carpet bombing fleeing civilians in areas Israel told them to evacuate to, bombing areas not controlled by hamas, spraying herbicides over Palestinian farm land, restricting and controlling water, food, electricity, and medical care, taking Palestinian children as political prisoners and threatening their families, etc etc very clearly paints Israel as the genocidal oppressor that they are, and Palestine as victim who's finally had enough. The Palestinians are forced to be out there performing surgeries in the street with no anesthesia, writing their names on body parts so they can be identified later, etc. Israel is a horrific apartheid state and anyone who supports them should be shamed out of civil society.

So you're justifying mass murder, kidnapping, and rape.

Hamas Massacre - October 2023

On October 7, 2023, thousands of Hamas terrorists breached Israel’s security fence. Over 1,400 men, women, and children were murdered in the ensuing attack. More than 200 were kidnapped to Gaza. These graphic videos and images document the horrors of that day.

www.hamas-massacre.net

 

[Rouge4000]

Do you think it's going to become a world war?

Absolutely not hamas is a terrorist group acting as a government and Israel is sniffing them out. How does this ever correlate to another world War