What are your options on afterlife. There is too many accounts of NDEs, channeling etc for there to be nothing. Even astral projection proves something.
PrettyMoose
Eat my arse, Pain&Sh*tness & Mindf*ckitation Grift
- Mar 1, 2020
- 280
I think there is nothing from an individual perspective, what makes us us (genetics, environment, experiences) is all lost when we die.
I do have some fears though that time only seems linear to the living and that we may actually be stuck experiencing the same lives over and over on an endless loop, but the experience feels fresh each time. I hope that is wrong but it is something that one can never know.
I do have some fears though that time only seems linear to the living and that we may actually be stuck experiencing the same lives over and over on an endless loop, but the experience feels fresh each time. I hope that is wrong but it is something that one can never know.
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Garbage Person
Eating snowflakes with plastic forks
- Jan 17, 2020
- 305
It's a nice thought to entertain. I love the idea of becoming something more whole than what I feel I am here.
disabledandhopeless
Enlightened
- Mar 1, 2020
- 1,893
I don't know. I think there's something else.. just that humans can't understand it now.
Hollow Point
A̵l̷w̷a̷y̸s̷ ̷t̸i̸r̵e̸d̶
- Mar 24, 2020
- 120
I believe in reincarnation. Not necessarily like a rabbit or a bird, but born again in some other life form. You'll have no recollection of your past lives. Maybe another dimension.
On a semi related note, I dont belive in ghosts. At least in the sense of them being humans with unfunished business unable to move onto the next plain. That's too depressing for me to belive in. I wouldn't want to be stuck in limbo. I figure if you're going to belive in a afterlife, why not belive in one that you look forward to.
On a semi related note, I dont belive in ghosts. At least in the sense of them being humans with unfunished business unable to move onto the next plain. That's too depressing for me to belive in. I wouldn't want to be stuck in limbo. I figure if you're going to belive in a afterlife, why not belive in one that you look forward to.
You are correct. I firmly believe that our time is cyclical, repeating endlessly with some variation. Because death as we know it cannot be described, can it, I ask, exist at all? I am a firm believer in the reality of reincarnation as ourselves, reliving our lives again and again, each time a little better, a little wiser for the experience. I reject ideas of "karma" however. We pay for our karma NOW; in "death", we are cleansed of all of it. When we die, "the bill" is marked PAID IN FULL.
RedDEE
Life sucks and then you die.
- May 10, 2019
- 356
Don't worry, we are certaintly not on repeat. The laws of physics do not allow for that to happen. Thanks to thermodynamics, the universe is entropically destined towards a state of complete heat death, when all stars die and all energy is equally dispersed throughout the entire universe.
But as far as the afterlife goes - there's definitely not one. Just a state of nothingness. It's a state that's so hard for humans to conceptualize - because it's beyond conceptions and humans rely on conceptions. The state of nothingness that comes after death is so subtle, simple, and natural - it is so simple, humans can't understand it.
It is our eternal resting place, completely silent and completely peaceful. No thoughts. No awareness. We won't even know we're dead, we won't have any memory of living either. Some people call it a state of ignorance, some call it bliss.
It's good. Life was designed to lead us to death. Life is purposefully shitty - if life were good, we would live forever. We are born into existence of suffering so we can pass away into non-existence, which is peace.
If we were not born, we could not die. If we do not die, we do not pass into peace. Life is shit, but a necessary evil. If we lived forever, that would be the worst thing ever, even if we lived happily forever. Because the peace that death brings is greater than any possible happiness - even the happiness of heaven. The non-existence that death brings is better than any heaven - it's like super heaven.
In heaven the angels gather and sing holy hymns. But the holy hymns the angels sing are about the peace we will have when we are dead. I would rather have the peace of death than to be an angel singing holy hymns.
Thebuddhacel
the truecel buddhist
- Jan 16, 2020
- 62
Well, energy can't be destroyed therefore will have something after. I can't understand how people believe that will have some void, or nothing.
RedDEE
Life sucks and then you die.
- May 10, 2019
- 356
Energy is not concious or aware on it's own. We are aware, because the energy that makes up our brain is arranged in a particular pattern that makes up our brain which produces our conciousness. After brain death, the energy that produces our conciousness goes elsewhere in the universe, ultimately headed to a state of equal dispersion. But there will be no more conciousness upon the death of our brain.
It doesn't matter if energy still exists after we are dead - if there is no conciousness to observe this energy, it may as well not exist. Are you not a Buddhist? This is what your religion is entirely based on. Buddha is described as "the completely gone one" that has "extinguished conciousness of mind." Buddha represents the nonexistence that is after death.
Existence relys on our awareness of it. No awareness = no existence. Volcanoes have energy, but are not aware. Stars are not aware. When we die, we will not be aware of what the energy that comprised our brains does.
Thebuddhacel
the truecel buddhist
- Jan 16, 2020
- 62
Are you saying that atoms are not conscious?
Do you believe will be there nothing after ctb?
Apathy79
Arcanist
- Oct 13, 2019
- 489
We'll reincarnate again with total amnesia of our previous lives and continue to work on our karma. The same thing we did this time, and the times before. Eventually we'll become enlightened and have no further need for human lifetimes.
Thebuddhacel
the truecel buddhist
- Jan 16, 2020
- 62
theguineapigking
Useless piece of trash
- Dec 5, 2019
- 593
There is no way to know for sure if there is an afterlife or not. No matter what anyone claims. The laws of physics don't necessarily prevent this. If this reality is some form of simulation for example, the laws of physics may not even apply in the "real world" and our understanding is warped to this reality. The human brain is very limited as well. Maybe we are not able to know if there's something after or not for a reason?
Remember that human awareness is VERY low. You can't feel someone else's life force. You can't tell a good person from bad just by glancing. My point is that if human awareness is this low(kind of like tunnel vision), who's to say that there definitely isn't an afterlife? The laws of physics mean nothing in this case. I'm not a genius by any means. But it's just a fact. We cannot know the unknown. Also, scientists are always finding new information that they had never thought possible. What if there is another realm or whatever outside of our universe and laws of physics.. outside of our ability to fathom?
I advise everyone to be open minded. Religion and atheism are both close minded. It's like believing in santa when you're a kid. I don't mean this as an insult. I simply mean that you don't think outside the box and simply realize there's no definite proof.
I personally feel there's an afterlife of some sort. But this is just my instinct. I don't know for sure. There's no way you can either.
My post isn't meant to attack religious people or atheists. It is simply about being open minded because nobody can possibly know what comes after.( I'm not talking about nde experiences. Who knows with that?)
Remember that human awareness is VERY low. You can't feel someone else's life force. You can't tell a good person from bad just by glancing. My point is that if human awareness is this low(kind of like tunnel vision), who's to say that there definitely isn't an afterlife? The laws of physics mean nothing in this case. I'm not a genius by any means. But it's just a fact. We cannot know the unknown. Also, scientists are always finding new information that they had never thought possible. What if there is another realm or whatever outside of our universe and laws of physics.. outside of our ability to fathom?
I advise everyone to be open minded. Religion and atheism are both close minded. It's like believing in santa when you're a kid. I don't mean this as an insult. I simply mean that you don't think outside the box and simply realize there's no definite proof.
I personally feel there's an afterlife of some sort. But this is just my instinct. I don't know for sure. There's no way you can either.
My post isn't meant to attack religious people or atheists. It is simply about being open minded because nobody can possibly know what comes after.( I'm not talking about nde experiences. Who knows with that?)
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I particularly enjoy threads like these; they add a philosophical aspect to issues regarding ctb. Fascinating speculations!
taylor321
Member
- Mar 1, 2020
- 84
i dont believe in ghosts, demons, or anything like that. I used to when i was younger but not anymore. If someone gave me a camera and told me to go into a "haunted" house and film inside of it, i'd do it. I mean im sure theres supernatural stuff in the world that we cant explain, so who really knows, i just personally dont believe in ghosts. But i do believe in aliens.
Mr2005
Don't shoot the messenger, give me the gun
- Sep 25, 2018
- 3,622
everything in life seems to be materialistic so I dont believe in souls anymore, I dont think so, but one can never know I guess even if unicorns exist and pigs fly too u know...
Although I have no religious belief, I am certain that reincarnation is a purely mechanical process and that we automatically reboot, if you will, at death. Some scientists who are proponents of biocentrism maintain this as fact.
Hypergang2018
Member
- Jan 16, 2020
- 30
I don't know because i am not all-knowing, and i am willing to admit that. If i do get reincarnated or sent to hell i would be very pissed tho
InTheAirTonight
I tried
- Feb 29, 2020
- 475
If life started from nothing surely we can't experience nothing without anything coming from it.
But realistically, I believe it's nothingness which is hard to comprehend. I hope there is an afterlife, I enjoy life but not my life.
But realistically, I believe it's nothingness which is hard to comprehend. I hope there is an afterlife, I enjoy life but not my life.
I've researched a lot on this topic... basically there is a reincarnation system that we have to avoid.
please read wes penre's papers for further knowledge.
please read wes penre's papers for further knowledge.
There is a phenomenon of a tunnel of light that pulls the soul into the reincarnation trap, and beings who impose dead relatives, close friends etc that convinces the soul to reincarnate. escape from the reincarnation system
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There has to be something afterwards because we want there to be and cannot conceive of there not being.
If the afterlife doesn't exist then we'd create the concept anyway.
None of this means any of this is true or that it isn't.
Nature doesn't give a shit what we think or feel or believe.
If the afterlife doesn't exist then we'd create the concept anyway.
None of this means any of this is true or that it isn't.
Nature doesn't give a shit what we think or feel or believe.
theguineapigking
Useless piece of trash
- Dec 5, 2019
- 593
This is fascinating. I've heard of stuff like this before. It's usually something such as a spirit guide appearing as a loved one or Jesus to comfort you. This is a more sadistic version of that.There is a phenomenon of a tunnel of light that pulls the soul into the reincarnation trap, and beings who impose dead relatives, close friends etc that convinces the soul to reincarnate. escape from the reincarnation system
In your opinion, if that is true, do you think they try to lure you into reincarnation out of evil? Or is it to further your consciousness and wisdom by learning more?
It is pure evil living in this world just look at nature everything kills everything. suffer is everywhere. There is no learning because of the mind wipe.
There is a phenomenon of a tunnel of light that pulls the soul into the reincarnation trap, and beings who impose dead relatives, close friends etc that convinces the soul to reincarnate. escape from the reincarnation system
Thank you for explaining! Who is "they"? Are they bad people? Will the choose a bad reincarnation?
theguineapigking
Useless piece of trash
- Dec 5, 2019
- 593
What if it is to further wisdom and consciousness awareness, but the memory is reset each time so that we have a whole new experience to add to the collection? Kind of like a bunch of separate movies that have nothing to do with each other.. Each movie is different. Maybe each life experience adds total knowledge to the spiritual memory bank(or whatever it's called) that we gain access too after completing all life experiences?
But certainly it seems evil as well. There's so much bullshit In the world.
These beings are called by many names. Archons, djins, reptilians, greys, etc...
They will try to get you into agreeing to a bad reincarnation because they live off of our suffering. you might even live the same life with amnesia.
each life time data is saved in the akashic records, however it is managed by dark entities. you might even live the same life over again with amnesia. it's a useless system.
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