Therapists

[Desperate_Soul]

Do therapists really care about you, or is it all just a job to them?

I know they need to make money to live, but do they really care about their patients?

 

[ningaman151]

Fuck all mental health "professionals".

 

[solacely]

I don't know about other therapists, but all of the ones that I've had were definitely just in it for the job.

 

[Ben]

I've had 3 different therapists in my life.

They all asked the right questions

They all made me think I'm not different

Therapists are for people who want to get better. I would be surprised if a therapist was willing to take the most confident user here as a subject.

Therapists expect you to break down as soon as they figure out your triggers.

This works on mentally stable people, but honestly, does anybody here think there is a magic sentence that could change your opinions?

Probably not

 

[Clover]

Some care. Some used to care and are now desensitised. Some just think there better than you.

I've got one who cares. If I could possibly get better she would be helpful.

 

[Desperate_Soul]

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

 

[ningaman151]

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

Sometimes we do, sometimes we don't.

 

[Firefly1]

Do therapists really care about you, or is it all just a job to them?

I know they need to make money to live, but do they really care about their patients?

I think the good therapists definitely care because in order to become a good professional i believe you really have to feel passionately about a job ...so that means they have to feel passionately about the problems of their patients as well

 

[Firefly1]

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

We only care about the ones who are in a worse condition than ourseleves

 

[MissLisa]

I'm not sure, I think they do to a degree but their job comes first. I think in order to do their job they have to remain emotionally uninvolved and detached, so it is easier for them to look at us as just a patient rather than a person. They follow their guidelines and that is it. I have felt with some people (not necessarily a therapist) that they do care and they do try but within their boundaries of their job, but some I have come across that genuinely seem heartless and they can't wait for me to die so they don't have to deal with me anymore. I also get the feeling from some of them that because I am still alive now that I won't commit suicide, they don't help, they just wait. The home treatment team/crisis team are the worst for cold, heartless 'treatment' they don't actually help at all but made me feel much worse. I felt obliged to talk to them when I had to though as they could have me sectioned. I imagine that hospital is just as bad. One person I was really struggling to talk to (I was in a really bad way and needed help) just sat looking bored and checking her watch. I stopped trying to talk after that. A couple of people in my life (professionals) have been there for me though, I am very grateful to them but even with them I feel I have lost all hope now. It makes me feel guilty that they have tried to be there, and put time and effort into me which I am going to throw away by dying.

 

[MissLisa]

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

Yes, I care about people, too much I think. Aswell as my own problems I am constantly worrying about other people and trying to make them happy, even strangers.

 

[RM5998]

Do therapists really care about you, or is it all just a job to them?

I know they need to make money to live, but do they really care about their patients?

They are supposed to not be invested in patients. Makes sense, when their job is to pretend to give a shit to put you back into society so that it can resume using you to generate perceived value that you will then again have to be wrung out to receive a trickle of.

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

Yeah, we do, but there's a caveat. A couple, actually. First, you only care for the image of a person; and second, it's only in a way that pleases you on some level. Therapists are aware of that construct, and try to use it as both a distancing tool and a thumb rule for evaluating whether you can be re-inserted into society. And I'd like to believe that we on this site are aware of it, and that we understand that it's not a bad thing if done the right way. The artifice is what allows me to speak better than I normally do, and I'm sure it helps us all in one way or another.

 

[Dean]

My problem with therapists and mental health professionals is that it's basically a pseudoscience. In physics they don't wake up and decide to change the gravity constant. But all these mental health professionals are completely influenced by society. One minute they say that being gay is a mental illness the next it's not. Then they say trans is a mental illness then it is not. Nothing against LGBT but it doesn't seem like psychology or psychiatry is any sort of actual quantifiable science. If you have problems that can be fixed with therapy then yeah I guess it works. But some people have problems that will never be fixed and if they want to die because of them that's their right.

 

[medusa]

I have only been to a few and always stopped going after 2-3 sessions. My main problem is that the therapist views me as a 'mentally unstable, depressed' person who is 'broken' and 'ill' and 'needs fixing.' I am not mentally unstable, nor broken. Depression and anxiety are a perfectly normal reaction to life-honestly, if I read some of the shit some of us are going through, there is no other possible reaction to it. Being depressed and having suicidal thoughts does NOT mean you are mentally unstable, it just means there is too much for you to cope with.
So that's probably the reason I never go anymore-because they view me as only a shattered being. But I'm not.

 

[Regisphilbin_savant]

My problem with therapists and mental health professionals is that it's basically a pseudoscience. In physics they don't wake up and decide to change the gravity constant. But all these mental health professionals are completely influenced by society. One minute they say that being gay is a mental illness the next it's not. Then they say trans is a mental illness then it is not. Nothing against LGBT but it doesn't seem like psychology or psychiatry is any sort of actual quantifiable science. If you have problems that can be fixed with therapy then yeah I guess it works. But some people have problems that will never be fixed and if they want to die because of them that's their right.

they have realy very lttle clue about brain chemistry and what they do know they cant implement properly in treating people suffering. so they pretend to know and push shit on you coz they prey on ur hope

 

[medusa]

My problem with therapists and mental health professionals is that it's basically a pseudoscience. In physics they don't wake up and decide to change the gravity constant. But all these mental health professionals are completely influenced by society. One minute they say that being gay is a mental illness the next it's not. Then they say trans is a mental illness then it is not. Nothing against LGBT but it doesn't seem like psychology or psychiatry is any sort of actual quantifiable science. If you have problems that can be fixed with therapy then yeah I guess it works. But some people have problems that will never be fixed and if they want to die because of them that's their right.

the LGBT thing was about 30 years ago-homosexuality has been removed as a mental illness from the WHO's list.
Thankfully, too! Love is love no matter what.

 

[RM5998]

My problem with therapists and mental health professionals is that it's basically a pseudoscience. In physics they don't wake up and decide to change the gravity constant. But all these mental health professionals are completely influenced by society. One minute they say that being gay is a mental illness the next it's not. Then they say trans is a mental illness then it is not. Nothing against LGBT but it doesn't seem like psychology or psychiatry is any sort of actual quantifiable science. If you have problems that can be fixed with therapy then yeah I guess it works. But some people have problems that will never be fixed and if they want to die because of them that's their right.

Well, a lot of physics does work like that. The transition from Newtonian to relativistic mechanics was something similar. It's just that paradigm shifts in psychotherapy take a few years, instead of a few centuries. Maybe at some point, they'll find out a theory that stays up to date longer than the next version of Windows.

 

[Madrid27]

No

 

[Bilbobaggins]

My current one does. She gets moist eyed when I talk about ctb. She is really good at helping me frame my early life experiences but that doesn't stop them being so awful. She certainly can't change my mind as to how horrendous the future is going to be which is what makes me certain that I'm going to do myself in.

 

[Tiburcio]

Therapy = stealing

 

[Rollo]

It really depends on particular person and on what you define as 'care'. I'm myself is on my way of becoming a therapist. But I won't get moist eyed if you talk to me about your ctb. Still I care enough as to not sell you a bunch of hot air, but only something I know to be true. Something I experienced on my own skin. And I will offer refund either. Back in the day I remember doing psychological training (lifespring type) and they had this quite pricy 'advanced course' to which I signed up. Yet what they didn't tell is that at the very begining you will be judged by your 3 peers on whether you're 'honest enough' to be admitted. And they voted me down. They gave me 2 more attempts at later trainings and I failed both either, last one 2 in favor 1 against. That despite being honest and determined enough to admit I was a coward (in general). So then I asked for my money back and they turned me down. Main trainer was just looking at me asking for my money back in front of whole audience wihout saying anything. So I lost that money. If it happened today (although today I wouldn't go there in the first place) I would be far more assertive in doing anything I can to get my money back. But back then I let them have it. Personally I would rather go rob a bank if I want to screw somebody for money.

 

[whatmattersmost]

What does "Normal" feel like?

 

[Giih]

What about normal people like you and me?

Do we care about each other?

Do you care about me? Do I care about you?

I think to care about with other, you need have a real proximity, If they don't, It's Just a falsehood show

 

[NotMery]

I had one that Was really helpful when I Was trying to get better. When I moved to another city, she spent months talking to me on whtspp without charging. And I know she worked for Free when people couldn't pay for therapy anymore. So yes, She cared and I think there are a lot of professionals who care. Assuming all therapists are bad seems Just immature and a bit selfish. Just because something doesn't work for us It doesn't mean It can't Help anyone. People have different needs regarding mental health. My therapist couldn't help me anymore from a certain point but I'm sure she can help other people and I think this is great.

 

[Brokenanddeadinside]

Yes therapists do care maybe not all but some do. A good therapist becomes one because they like helping people. Before my life went to shit I was in college because I wanted to become a therapist.

 

[Trashcan]

It honestly depends. They have to get at the very least a masters degree. That isn't easy and graduate school admissions to become a therapist are VERY competitive.

It's also not prestigious and they don't make a lot of money.

There are definitely some that do care but have to not get involved (they're trained not to). There are some that did care but are desensitized/burned out. Then there are some that I have no idea why they decided to become a therapist because they chose it for all the wrong reasons whatever they where.

 

[MAIO]

Do therapists really care about you, or is it all just a job to them?

I know they need to make money to live, but do they really care about their patients?

Depends on the therapist. The craziest people I have ever known have all become therapist.

 

[medusa]

It really depends on particular person and on what you define as 'care'. I'm myself is on my way of becoming a therapist. But I won't get moist eyed if you talk to me about your ctb. Still I care enough as to not sell you a bunch of hot air, but only something I know to be true. Something I experienced on my own skin. And I will offer refund either. Back in the day I remember doing psychological training (lifespring type) and they had this quite pricy 'advanced course' to which I signed up. Yet what they didn't tell is that at the very begining you will be judged by your 3 peers on whether you're 'honest enough' to be admitted. And they voted me down. They gave me 2 more attempts at later trainings and I failed both either, last one 2 in favor 1 against. That despite being honest and determined enough to admit I was a coward (in general). So then I asked for my money back and they turned me down. Main trainer was just looking at me asking for my money back in front of whole audience wihout saying anything. So I lost that money. If it happened today (although today I wouldn't go there in the first place) I would be far more assertive in doing anything I can to get my money back. But back then I let them have it. Personally I would rather go rob a bank if I want to screw somebody for money.

I don't mean to be rude, but as a prospective therapist and mental health professional-what are you doing on a ctb forum:D? It seems like a place most counsellors wouldn't go to. But I hope you have a good stay here.

 

[PatKat]

Do therapists really care about you, or is it all just a job to them?

I know they need to make money to live, but do they really care about their patients?

I think some care and others are just in it for the paycheck. In my experience the ones that have been doing it 15+ years are just in it for the money at this point. I try to find newer psychologist that have more current information and still care.

 

[Regisphilbin_savant]

they have realy very lttle clue about brain chemistry and what they do know they cant implement properly in treating people suffering. so they pretend to know and push shit on you coz they prey on ur hope