"Nevertheless, Andrews acknowledges mounting research showing that psychiatric hospitalization seems to be
extremely suicidogenic. "When suicide researchers talk about elevated risk, they're talking about three times, four times, and sometimes ten times," says Andrews. "When we talk about inpatient treatment, it's exponentially larger."
After being psychiatrically hospitalized and treated, people become dozens or even hundreds of times
more likely to kill themselves—even if they were never suicidal before. But Andrews believes more studies are needed to understand what this evidence truly means. "The lack of data is troubling. We hospitalize people at risk of suicide, even though we don't have any evidence that hospitalizing them is particularly helpful."
Save a life, warn about hotlines.
HOWEVER, keep reading the article. There appears to be one last beacon of hope in the fight against this sort of stuff. One hotline that can be trusted. Still, research it because this articles is few years old, but there could be one diamond in the rough.
I am guessing that you are in the US going from how you spell "hospitalise", so I am not that familiar with the law to detain someone in hospital there, but here in Britain, they need to go through a process where a doctor asks you a set series of questions related to suicidal intent (you can read upon what these are but essentially saying yes to the question that you have current plans to end your life, that's gonna get you locked up as you then pose an "imminent threat to the life of yourself or others" according to the the health system.
I would assume (assumptions can make an "ass out of "u" and "me" lol) but the United States should be similar, especially as you have a constitution there guaranteeing rights?
It may be state laws/regulations based also over there.
I have avoided being sectioned under the mental health act (detained/locked up in a mental hospital), but either outright lying, or avoiding answering the question and then asking them questions that are likely to provoke a response emotionally in them to get them tired and fed up with dealing with me
(which I now realise as someone who has recently realised that I have Narcissistic Personality Disorder, which is one hell of a thing to wake up from and the reason I am on this board, but this reaction to those psychiatric nurses was likely just a form of my NPD trying to dodge a question using emotional manipulation, which worked wonders and they got angry at me and told me to leave, and they said "we're just trying to help you", and I replied "you're idea of help is to harm people you sick sadistic f*cks" with the police officer in the room next door in the hospital looking at me and she has an expression on her face of "like WTF").
My point is that surely they can't detain you in hospital, even if you did say on a phone call that you are suicidal, you could always outright lie and say that you are not anymore and it must have been a momentary thing and you were over-emotional (or something along those lines) when doctors/nurses arrive to try and detain you, and surely they can not legally detain you without first going through the risk assessment process they would need to do before they could even detain you, which is removing your freedom, which can only be done if there is a legitimate reason to do so surely?
I would be very surprised if the US does not have such protections, or else this power could be abused.
Just start asking them questions and take over the frame, such as asking them "are you suicidal? With a job working in psychiatry I bet you think of topping yourself all the time, does it make married life difficult? Or maybe you are divorced because of the sh*t you have to deal on a daily basis in your job is messing up your ability to feel empathy?
Or maybe this belligerent type of behavior doesn't work in America, maybe I would have already been shot by someone if I lived over there lol
Anyway, if you know what your rights are, for where you live, then you know the rules and what to avoid saying and what to say to avoid being locked up against your will.
I am not suggesting you end your life, I am struggling with the decision to end my life myself, and I am doing lots of thinking and journaling even though it seems hopeless, as it goes without saying that it's a very serious decision to make (it's perhaps the most important decision one can consider making in one's life), but what is for sure is that I am against people being locked up in hospitals against their will, I believe this is a violation of one's rights, and does not help people feel less suicidal from my own experience being detained in a mental hospital in my home country of Australia back when I was 15 years old, as it just made me feel worse.
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