Venting The thought of suffering until old age is disturbing

[FuneralCry]

I find it so disturbing how humans can potentially exist for so long, I see no value in suffering for decades just to be tortured and tormented by old age. Old age sounds beyond hellish to me and that's all humans are destined for, it's beyond horrific to think of ending up with dementia and painful diseases dying slowly in a agonising way. And yet so many act like suicide is the worst thing ever even know it's the only way to escape from extreme pain and torture, it's insane to me how so many are pro-life.

There's nothing appealing about deteriorating and waiting to die in this existence that was always undesirable in the first place, I just think the fact that all this is ultimately meaningless makes it even more disgusting how we are denied a right to die in peace, all humans are just waiting around to die anyway and all they have to look forward to is way worse suffering, decay and loss if they have anything to lose.

Existence is just evil and repulsive to me and I find it horrifying how there is literally no limit as to how much one can suffer and how much agony one can feel as long as they exist. I've already suffered for way too long at this point, in fact even one second suffering in this existence is way too long to me.

I really wish I never existed, I never would have chosen existence, to have the ability to exist is just meaningless suffering. It's a devastating tragedy to deny people the option of a painless death as not everyone wants to experience the hell that is old age, no matter what I could never be able to understand how anyone could wish for that, I'd always prefer to permanently not exist.

 

[HeavensOpenDoor]

I couldn't have voiced it any better!

 

[sserafim]

It is. That's why I'm dying young (via ctb)

 

[HeavensOpenDoor]

There's nothing appealing about any old person I've ever seen!

I've never looked at an old person and said, "I'd like to be that one day with all those problems!"

 

[Worndown]

If the thought of growing old is too much to handle, you might look for an early exit.

 

[dinosavr]

This post has just made me realize I never consider myself getting old as a possible scenario. Given my stupid luck I would be able to make it until 100 years old or so, but I sooooo much don't want to ever get even 50

 

[Kapsyl]

I shudder to think what you'll be like as an e-personality on sasu at age 40, 60, 75 etc (aside from breaking the 1 million posts mark and getting a prize).

I'm sorry to break both of your bubble's, but without a significant change of posting rate it seems unlikely Funeralcry will achieve the million post count. The yearly amount would have to doubled to even be realistically achievable.

At present rate it would approximately take another 113 years to achieve the highly lucrative one million post mark.

 

[cosmic-freedom]

It's okay to pull the plug on a comatose patient because that would be mercy,while a person struggling to live mentally but is fine physically wanting out is totally out of line.How dare I not have control over your life?!!!\s

 

[sserafim]

This post has just made me realize I never consider myself getting old as a possible scenario. Given my stupid luck I would be able to make it until 100 years old or so, but I sooooo much don't want to ever get even 50

Same but I don't want to ever live past 25

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

At present rate it would approximately take another 113 years to achieve the highly lucrative one million post mark.

Unfortunately, that 1 million record is achievable since it looks like the "posts per day" metric is acelerating over the years ( posting more frequently). Also considering that one is relatively young and being part of a middle/ upper midle class family (based on the highly level of writing) that can provide all material needs and also considering the further deveploments in medicine over the next decades, its not imposible to say that one can live past 100 years (which is more and more common among people in middle / upper middle class in developed countries).
Thats fucking sad but its the reality.

 

[LifeIsCrazyNemb]

I wouldn't say the level or complexity of her writing is high enough to outright suggest high intelligence or literacy. Since some suspect her of being a robot maybe she gets help from chat CBT (the suicidal A.I). @LifeIsCrazyNemb

I didnt say good writing mean high inteligence (not in this case, lol), just that it could indicate being part of a middle/upper midle class family.

But this hypothesis you brought about one getting help from a chat CBT makes sense as well. Lol

 

[yxmux]

yeah i'm 100% not tolerating living past college. hopefully i will gain the courage to do it before then.

 

[karmaisabitch]

totally agree!!! I can't even imagine myself old. I'm 36 already get hot flashes I can't even see myself older. This society have no respect to adults anyway imagine old adult to elderly!

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I'm sorry to break both of your bubble's, but without a significant change of posting rate it seems unlikely Funeralcry will achieve the million post count. The yearly amount would have to doubled to even be realistically achievable.

At present rate it would approximately take another 113 years to achieve the highly lucrative one million post mark.

 

[Z-A]

Dying young by catching the bus is my style.

 

[DEATH IS FREEDOM]

Before the introduction of dental care, people were badly tormented by toothache. The man of today is in the same situation regard to the lack of euthanasia. That is why we are alive and write here.

Humans didn´t live that long before the modern society. People often died young and infant mortality was high. The average life expectancy of today is too high. Some humans live more than 100 years but the body does not hold that long. The high life expectancy is the reason why many people are and have been in the hell of old age. We live in the extension of human life era.

I think I am older than most people here. I remember when I was young - then I never wanted to grow old. I believe that being plauged by age-related ailments and illnesses for decades just to wait out a death of old age is the worst thing that can happen to a person. I find no dignity in living to retirement age.

The age of 20 to 30 is the best time of life. Then it becomes harder to get to know new people. After the age of 48, my life was completed in terms of health, love and friendship. Since then I have only benefited from knowledge and life experience. Now only meaningless suffering or death awaits so I can´t be bothererd to use the knowledge anymore.

I think that everone wants to be young and beautiful, but self-preservation forces people to live, no matter how old they are. That is why I am alive. Only extreme circumstances and actions like unbearable pain, coercion or courage can overcome the survival instinct. But one can need time to overcome the fear of death, if it is possible to overcome the fear of death. However, no one should have to suffer and struggle so hard to die. Euthanasia should be a human right for all people. The denial of death needs to disappear. Why force people to suffer and grow old when everone has to die anyway?

 

[melancholymallory03]

I find it so disturbing how humans can potentially exist for so long, I see no value in suffering for decades just to be tortured and tormented by old age. Old age sounds beyond hellish to me and that's all humans are destined for, it's beyond horrific to think of ending up with dementia and painful diseases dying slowly in a agonising way. And yet so many act like suicide is the worst thing ever even know it's the only way to escape from extreme pain and torture, it's insane to me how so many are pro-life.

There's nothing appealing about deteriorating and waiting to die in this existence that was always undesirable in the first place, I just think the fact that all this is ultimately meaningless makes it even more disgusting how we are denied a right to die in peace, all humans are just waiting around to die anyway and all they have to look forward to is way worse suffering, decay and loss if they have anything to lose.

Existence is just evil and repulsive to me and I find it horrifying how there is literally no limit as to how much one can suffer and how much agony one can feel as long as they exist. I've already suffered for way too long at this point, in fact even one second suffering in this existence is way too long to me.

I really wish I never existed, I never would have chosen existence, to have the ability to exist is just meaningless suffering. It's a devastating tragedy to deny people the option of a painless death as not everyone wants to experience the hell that is old age, no matter what I could never be able to understand how anyone could wish for that, I'd always prefer to permanently not exist.

Peaceful exit shouldn't be so stigmatized …. In most species when someone's fulfilled there purpose/es they die or have some happy medium they've reached with existence. Humans on the other hand , we are insatiable, we have " sUrVivAl inSinCt " ….. our species , makes 0 sense.
These emotions that are bestowed onto us don't make sense either. Things are complex and extremely painful, most aren't the 1% of people living lavish, rightfully so.
It's all so mundane , melancholic honestly. Hospitals where people are dying, orphanages full of children who will grow up to never have homes, never know where they come from, wars that re occur , I know it's all " human nature " … right ? For us to … fight eachother …. Hurt eachother ….. steal from eachother …. Kill eachother !! …. Rape eachother ?!! Even …. Well I think we're the most evil species , and dangerous to ever exist to mankind. What other species relies on such fucking chaos ,( I know the animal kingdoms a bit more complex but u catch my drift )
and extreme-ties to the point where we are lovingly destroying everything around us. And we just keep passing down the generational baggage and trauma to those who will always continue to be born into it. This is quite an inescapable and painful existence . There is literally , only one way out.

 

[TheDepartureLounge]

However, no one should have to suffer and struggle so hard to die. Euthanasia should be a human right for all people. The denial of death needs to disappear. Why force people to suffer and grow old when everone has to die anyway?

Your observations on the history of life expectancy derive from recycled trivialities foisted on us by a materialist school system and its media allies, both eager to promote a 'progressive' - i.e. temporally located - view of events. Rights cultures furthermore are an abomination designed to restrict and eventually erase freedom, not protect or enhance it. It should tell you something that Schwab and nice Mr Soros are among the principal guardians and promoters of the post-war 'human rights' scam but apparently not. May the tireless efforts of both to fulfil your dream of avoiding 'forcing people to live to old age' being you comfort, because I'm not at all certain you'll like the results.

 

[Imprisoned]

Your observations on the history of life expectancy derive from recycled trivialities foisted on us by a materialist school system and its media allies, both eager to promote a 'progressive' - i.e. temporally located - view of events. Rights cultures furthermore are an abomination designed to restrict and eventually erase freedom, not protect or enhance it. It should tell you something that Schwab and nice Mr Soros are among the principal guardians and promoters of the post-war 'human rights' scam but apparently not. May the tireless efforts of both to fulfil your dream of avoiding 'forcing people to live to old age' being you comfort, because I'm not at all certain you'll like the results.

What would your ideal world look like?

 

[TheDepartureLounge]

What would your ideal world look like?

Sorry I hold to no image of an ideal world. Idealism leads people astray in my experience. What matters is to ask the right questions. Perhaps you can say you've made a start once you realise that all sides of public debates are controlled, and that doing away with wars and empires starts with stripping the private bankers' who arranged things that way in the first place of their exclusive right to issue a nation's currency and lend it back to government at interest - the 'National Debt' lie, an evil from which all others flow.

Look I'm in my seventies. My situation's a bit different from that of the OP. I came here in search of information. Recently I acquired a stash of pills in response to a cancer diagnosis and, wanting more for when the pain gets too much, I was hoping to discuss the buying experience with others in the same position - which sites are reliable, that sort of thing - but it seems conversations like that aren't allowed.

What I can say is that since old age is an experience that varies between individuals ours will most likely be determined by whether we have family or some interest or hobby important enough to give life meaning. I have neither. All my friends are dead. Make no mistake therefore I'll be glad to be gone, and I agree with the OPs general sentiment about choosing when you've had enough because growing old is no fun. Unfortunately it's more complicated than that.

The problem with 'euthanasia' is the deception at the heart of it. Trusting politicians and doctors with your welfare is insane. No-one willingly consorts with politicians but the power over our lives exercised by modern medicine has reached alarming proportions.

Soon they will legalise euthanasia in countries where it is not all ready lawful to kill people. It will start with clever wording and a selection of heart-rending cases to put people at their ease. That's how it always starts. Once the principle is established defining the matter at hand will subsequently be changed and expanded to meet wholly political and economic criteria that have nothing to do with morality.

It's how the abortion debate started. It was all about protecting vulnerable Mothers and the need end the lives of hopelessly deformed foetuses. Today debate, such as it is, confines itself solely to when to kill fully formed babies. We no longer hear cries of 'It's not a person at twenty eight weeks'. That's neither here nor there any more. Babies carried to full term in America are murdered on a mass scale in 2024 - murdered even after the Mother has given birth to fully formed, healthy babies by entirely natural means. I assume no position on the abortion debate. I'm merely telling you the same shifting sands of 'principle' will come into play just as quickly with 'assisted dying'.

In Canada provision for euthanasia is well established and expanding to include a new debate on whether to include children of 14 and younger. Australia all ready does. 'Human rights' includes 'children's rights' of course - plus 'emancipation' - so as with contraception this will be done without any parental consultation. Meanwhile doctors who refuse to participate in the arrangement in Canada must refer their patients to doctors who have no such objections. If they don't they lose their licence.

Has generations of TV watching desensitised us to violence even if it hasn't made us want to imitate it? According to one GP with forty years in practice behind him in England this steady normalising of bloodshed may explain what he describes as a new generation of nurses and doctors who very often care little for life itself and are more than happy to be involved in killing patients - especially if they're paid for it (in England they're paid for flu jabs, for Alzheimer diagnoses, for Covid diagnoses and much else besides; you might also remember You Tube videos of 'dancing nurses', complicated routines which must have taken hours of practice even as we were told wards were full to overflowing with staff run off their feet. Recently I obtained footage of empty wards taken on camera-phone - and of violent police arrests that followed as a reprisal for the perfectly legal act of filming).

If you go to Amazon UK you'll find a book called 'They Want to Kill Us: Here's How and Why'. It's written by a former GP using the pseudonym 'Jack King'. It's only a hundred pages or so and costs just £3.50 (about $5). The author kept it cheap hoping people will buy multiple copies and spread the word. It is simply a fact that all western nations are gearing up for mass murder where they have not all ready done so. I say this because while many used Covid to get the ball rolling in England they've used something called the Liverpool Care Pathway to justify despatching the elderly and disabled going back to the 1990s.

You will be shocked by what you read. Do not idealise these men and women. Hippocrates must be rolling in his grave.

 

[Imprisoned]

Sorry I hold to no image of an ideal world. Idealism leads people astray in my experience. What matters is to ask the right questions. Perhaps you can say you've made a start once you realise that all sides of public debates are controlled, and that doing away with wars and empires starts with stripping the private bankers' who arranged things that way in the first place of their exclusive right to issue a nation's currency and lend it back to government at interest - the 'National Debt' lie, an evil from which all others flow.

Look I'm in my seventies. My situation's a bit different from that of the OP. I came here in search of information. Recently I acquired a stash of pills in response to a cancer diagnosis and, wanting more for when the pain gets too much, I was hoping to discuss the buying experience with others in the same position - which sites are reliable, that sort of thing - but it seems conversations like that aren't allowed.

What I can say is that since old age is an experience that varies between individuals ours will most likely be determined by whether we have family or some interest or hobby important enough to give life meaning. I have neither. All my friends are dead. Make no mistake therefore I'll be glad to be gone, and I agree with the OPs general sentiment about choosing when you've had enough because growing old is no fun. Unfortunately it's more complicated than that.

The problem with 'euthanasia' is the deception at the heart of it. Trusting politicians and doctors with your welfare is insane. No-one willingly consorts with politicians but the power over our lives exercised by modern medicine has reached alarming proportions.

Soon they will legalise euthanasia in countries where it is not all ready lawful to kill people. It will start with clever wording and a selection of heart-rending cases to put people at their ease. That's how it always starts. Once the principle is established defining the matter at hand will subsequently be changed and expanded to meet wholly political and economic criteria that have nothing to do with morality.

It's how the abortion debate started. It was all about protecting vulnerable Mothers and the need end the lives of hopelessly deformed foetuses. Today debate, such as it is, confines itself solely to when to kill fully formed babies. We no longer hear cries of 'It's not a person at twenty eight weeks'. That's neither here nor there any more. Babies carried to full term in America are murdered on a mass scale in 2024 - murdered even after the Mother has given birth to fully formed, healthy babies by entirely natural means. I assume no position on the abortion debate. I'm merely telling you the same shifting sands of 'principle' will come into play just as quickly with 'assisted dying'.

In Canada provision for euthanasia is well established and expanding to include a new debate on whether to include children of 14 and younger. Australia all ready does. 'Human rights' includes 'children's rights' of course - plus 'emancipation' - so as with contraception this will be done without any parental consultation. Meanwhile doctors who refuse to participate in the arrangement in Canada must refer their patients to doctors who have no such objections. If they don't they lose their licence.

Has generations of TV watching desensitised us to violence even if it hasn't made us want to imitate it? According to one GP with forty years in practice behind him in England this steady normalising of bloodshed may explain what he describes as a new generation of nurses and doctors who very often care little for life itself and are more than happy to be involved in killing patients - especially if they're paid for it (in England they're paid for flu jabs, for Alzheimer diagnoses, for Covid diagnoses and much else besides; you might also remember You Tube videos of 'dancing nurses', complicated routines which must have taken hours of practice even as we were told wards were full to overflowing with staff run off their feet. Recently I obtained footage of empty wards taken on camera-phone - and of violent police arrests that followed as a reprisal for the perfectly legal act of filming).

If you go to Amazon UK you'll find a book called 'They Want to Kill Us: Here's How and Why'. It's written by a former GP using the pseudonym 'Jack King'. It's only a hundred pages or so and costs just £3.50 (about $5). The author kept it cheap hoping people will buy multiple copies and spread the word. It is simply a fact that all western nations are gearing up for mass murder where they have not all ready done so. I say this because while many used Covid to get the ball rolling in England they've used something called the Liverpool Care Pathway to justify despatching the elderly and disabled going back to the 1990s.

You will be shocked by what you read. Do not idealise these men and women. Hippocrates must be rolling in his grave.

Thank you for your detailed answer. I'm sorry, I can't really add much to what you said, since I'm not very familiar with a lot of what you shared. Maybe I'll give that book a read soon.