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Yes, you seem confused and ugly in your picture. Why are you here if you are confused and do not want contact with other people?
I generally meant no offence. I didn't know if you meant you wanted to meet up and try the ReBreather with me, as you said nobody should die alone or if you meant you wanted to correspond with me, as were in this together. It's all love here. Btw that's not me in the picture, it's my favourite rapper.
 
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You can feel the punishment but you cant commit ts
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Why did you show pictures and write to me about R2D Rebreather II? Are you stupid? I can read and see this myself, I am not blind. But you must have a problem. Why are you here? You have nothing else to do and then you should be somewere else! The world will be a better place when I do not have to read your words. [emphasizes added]
I was simply working to carefully and completely answer the question you, yourself asked me, @NormaJeane (see screenshot below).

You thanked me for answering your previous question (also below).

While I appreciate "constructive feedback", I don't appreciate unkindness... and your comment strikes me as particularly unkind.

Please don't post unkind comments on my profile: It's a waste of your time as they are easily deleted.

SCREENSHOT of your question directed to me... that I attempted to answer for your benefit:
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Afternoon,after payment did you have long to wait for shipping details? Cheers
About 4 days afterwards I recieved a text message saying I needed to pay import charges. When I clicked on the link to pay it, it also had shipping details. I think if I didn't have to pay import charges I wouldn't have been given any shipping details, and would have probably just received a message on the day of delivery.
 
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About 4 days afterwards I recieved a text message saying I needed to pay import charges. When I clicked on the link to pay it, it also had shipping details. I think if I didn't have to pay import charges I wouldn't have been given any shipping details, and would have probably just received a message on the day of delivery.
Are you pleased with the debreather? Do you think the redesign is better and will work okay?
 
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About 4 days afterwards I recieved a text message saying I needed to pay import charges. When I clicked on the link to pay it, it also had shipping details. I think if I didn't have to pay import charges I wouldn't have been given any shipping details, and would have probably just received a message on the day of delivery.
Cheers,I paid item and shipping 3 weeks ago,apart from payment confirmation heard nothing since
 
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Are you pleased with the debreather? Do you think the redesign is better and will work okay?
You know what I actually haven't opened up it yet. I'm just not in the right mindset to go there. I will do it next week. I've just got so many other stuff going on. I have ocd so I'm very obsessive and just don't have space for it at the moment.
 
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You know what I actually haven't opened up it yet. I'm just not in the right mindset to go there. I will do it next week. I've just got so many other stuff going on. I have ocd so I'm very obsessive and just don't have space for it at the moment.
well keep us all posted.
 
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MaxX0X

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NormaJeane,
Did you ever get an email when it shipped? All I got were auto generated emails when I ordered.

Thank you.

What brand of soda lime did you buy? I mean which company?

Thank you.
I was nervous too after I ordered mine. Nothing but 2 payment verification emails then nothing for days.

Today I got a text message from carrier DHL (my only option) that it shipped from Hong Kong and will arrive on Friday. I'm in the USA so your experience may vary.
 
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Oct 25, 2020
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Not much data to help you. Shelf life is not indefinite. Soda lime usually good for a few years if sealed, but don't freeze or overheat as it damages the granules. Bottom line, you will not know before you try. I built mine and my O2 drops very quickly during tests so I know that I'll pass out within a couple of minutes if the mask is left on and then be gone 8-10 minutes later. The feeling as O2 drops is sort of like a dull fog and not at all unpleasant. Depending on the soda lime used, there is a little bit of a medicinal smell, not strong through. Good luck no matter what you choose.
Not much data to help you. Shelf life is not indefinite. Soda lime usually good for a few years if sealed, but don't freeze or overheat as it damages the granules. Bottom line, you will not know before you try. I built mine and my O2 drops very quickly during tests so I know that I'll pass out within a couple of minutes if the mask is left on and then be gone 8-10 minutes later. The feeling as O2 drops is sort of like a dull fog and not at all unpleasant. Depending on the soda lime used, there is a little bit of a medicinal smell, not strong through. Good luck no matter what you choose.
Yes, are you able to post any resources you used to make this?

do you feel confident that the mask may not come off during ctb which seems to involve convulsions?

Also, what did you think about the assertions that the device is not powerful enough for someone with healthy lungs?
 
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Would one say that this is better than the exit bag/mask method?


I would also like to know what advantages this device has over an exit bag + nitrogen tank. Has anyone successfully used a rebreather or is it all theoretical?
 
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the_final_countdown

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Dec 29, 2020
337
Seems theoretical.

Also seems like the risk of brain damage is high.

What if the mask comes off while you're convulsing?

Then you're left a vegetable, unable to kill yourself.
 
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Seems theoretical.

Also seems like the risk of brain damage is high.

What if the mask comes off while you're convulsing?

Then you're left a vegetable, unable to kill yourself.
Is there a way to make the mask even more secure?

Would taking diazapam beforehand help with convulsions?
 
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Also how many undisrupted hours do you need?
 
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Yes, are you able to post any resources you used to make this?

do you feel confident that the mask may not come off during ctb which seems to involve convulsions?

Also, what did you think about the assertions that the device is not powerful enough for someone with healthy lungs?
Yes, construction is easy. Can't really say anything about various people's concerns other than if I would not have taken mask off I would have been out within 2-3 minutes. I basically reviewed the old TrailerTrash posts. Easy to buy everything in the US from hardware stores and off eBay, but I'm not really sure what hardware stores have in other countries.
 
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Anyone tried to get this imported into Australia? Would be very grateful if any information. Thanks
 
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May 25, 2018
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Does anyone know if there has been a proven case of this device working? It seems interesting in theory but I also fear that it's all hype from the manufactures and no reliability. I would be scared to take a chance on this product, personally, because I don't want to risk further neurological damage if it fails.
Has anyone actually bought one who is in the uk , I'm wondering has anyone actually used one of these yet ? any info would be appreciated . it would be great if it worked seems peaceful .
Could someone point me in the direction of the website for the rebreather? Thank you very much
 
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I got mine today in the US. unpacked but put it all back til lI have more time. The changes were to the valve that connects the mask to the tubes. to the soda lime. and fix the soda lime canisters. I was told and this makes sense to not totally inflate the mask. you want it to be able to adjust to your face and with too much air it won't.

I haven't seen anyone talk about it working but people have been using exit bags for ages so why is this different? I don't get why people ae so suspicious of this.
 
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I got mine today in the US. unpacked but put it all back til lI have more time. The changes were to the valve that connects the mask to the tubes. to the soda lime. and fix the soda lime canisters. I was told and this makes sense to not totally inflate the mask. you want it to be able to adjust to your face and with too much air it won't.

I haven't seen anyone talk about it working but people have been using exit bags for ages so why is this different? I don't get why people ae so suspicious of this.
It was because the prior release of the product didn't function as was intended. 2 or 3 users on the site experimented with it and reported no effect. Former forum-goer, @GoodPersonEffed, gave a very detailed account of her experience testing out the first iteration of the device in the Megathread that was dedicated to it last year. She described a feeling akin to "air hunger" and had to cease with the proceedings because the sensation became too overwhelming. If the device had worked as advertised, there should've been no discomfort on her end.

This new & revised version might be a lot more effective, but we need documentation/people willing to experiment with it beforehand (in conjunction with a pulse oximeter) just to be sure.
 
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If that person had air hunger then I don't think there was a good seal because from what I've read within 3 minutes you pass out and then it takes about 10 minutes. Why with the new one he says check all the seals.
 
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Not much data to help you. Shelf life is not indefinite. Soda lime usually good for a few years if sealed, but don't freeze or overheat as it damages the granules. Bottom line, you will not know before you try. I built mine and my O2 drops very quickly during tests so I know that I'll pass out within a couple of minutes if the mask is left on and then be gone 8-10 minutes later. The feeling as O2 drops is sort of like a dull fog and not at all unpleasant. Depending on the soda lime used, there is a little bit of a medicinal smell, not strong through. Good luck no matter what you choose.
How did you build one? Can you link to any resource on how to build one?
 
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Feb 21, 2020
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Exit says scuba masks don't work. You'd be better off just with an edit bag and canister if gas
 
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pane

Hollow
Apr 29, 2019
358
How did you build one? Can you link to any resource on how to build one?
If you search through the posts of TrailerTrash and NextBusLeaving you should find enough details to construct a device using parts that can be bought at a hardware store and online.
 
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I'm 95+% sure Dr. Nitschke said some time ago, on Exit's podcast, that the redesign was being done primarily in order to improve the face-mask's seal... That (as I understood him) that was the major issue/problem with the last revision. And, as far as I can tell the mask design has been substantially improved in this new version.

With this method, everyone should know that it is absolutely essential that the system be quite air-tight = any substantial leaks and it will not work. The "weak point" for leaks is the seal of the mask over one's nose and mouth: As one loses consciousness, one's facial muscles tend to "relax" and that can cause leaks. Bottom line, the mask absolutely needs to be corrected fitted and secured.

So, please make sure to take your time and be careful — especially, follow all the instructions completely — in order to properly fit/prepare/ place your mask.

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I just fear that no mask is tight-fitted enough to prevent involuntary "agonal breathing" from dislodging it. My mouth never opens in my sleep because my jaw is locked in place by Invisalign, but agonal breathing would be a completely different demon to worry about than just the facial muscles becoming lax during unconsciousness. if I am correct, it would involve the body forcing the jaws apart to take in deep gasps of air?
 
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Good catch Wrennie. This device can't possibly prevent leakage after loss of consciousness except for in the most fortuitous circumstances. A truly "closed" system - which this technique requires - would involve what is essentially a helmet and space suit.
 
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Good catch Wrennie. This device can't possibly prevent leakage after loss of consciousness except for in the most fortuitous circumstances. I truly "closed" system - which this technique requires - would involve what is essentially a helmet and space suit.
I guess they expect that "chin strap" apparatus to be capable of sealing the jaws enough to prevent agonal breathing, but idk. I wish there was an actual legit study to back the efficacy of this model Rebreather (not that study with the concept device from like the mid 2000's or so that people often reference on here).
I want to know if the version I'm ordering will work as intended.

But regarding helmets, Exit mentions in the latest edition of the PPH about trying to find a way to utilize those heavy-duty protective anti-Covid 19 helmets used by medical practitioners as a potential component in a device used to facilitate death
 
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Any word on if this would ship easily to Canada?
 
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I guess they expect that "chin strap" apparatus to be capable of sealing the jaws enough to prevent agonal breathing, but idk. I wish there was an actual legit study to back the efficacy of this model Rebreather (not that study with the concept device from like the late 90's/early 2000's or so that people often reference on here).
I want to know if the version I'm ordering will work as intended.

But regarding helmets, Exit mentions in the latest PPH about trying to find a way to utilize those heavy-duty protective anti-Covid 19 helmets used by medical professionals as a potential component in a device used to facilitate death
Seems like a COVID helmet wouldn't prevent leakage as they are not airtight. This just seems like a very dubious device.
 
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profoundexperience

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Jun 29, 2020
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We really are in dire need of some eyewitness reports!
I have a pulse oximeter and I plan on reporting my experience with the device to the forums if and when I can get my hands on it.
That would be very helpful for the community! There are a lot of details you could provide.

However, you would have to order additional, new/sealed filters if you unseal & use the your filters for a test.

What blood-oxygen saturation % would you use to abort?
I just fear that no mask is tight-fitted enough to prevent involuntary "agonal breathing" from dislodging it.
Pictures from the website:
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I just don't know: I'd like to think that it's possible to get a mask of this style pretty secure. No method (without medical supervision) is ever 100%. I'd think it would be extremely hard for one's mouth to open with that strap on. BUT, as you noted — an airtight seal is absolutely required.

Have you read their PDF instructions and watched all their instructional videos, explaining how to correctly fit & affix the mask? The PDF goes into great detail on how to do it correctly.

A version of the PDF is here: www.right2die.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/03/R2D_Rebreather_Instructions_3.18.21.pdf — but always make sure to CHECK-FOR AND DOWNLOAD THE NEWEST VERSION of their instructions by looking it up on their website.
 
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