Discussion The purpose of a human life

[peacetoall]

That isn't a contradiction. Within the context of what we do know at this moment that is our purpose as it is the best path towards dealing with all the many negative potential possibilities we are aware of. Now if some higher power comes down tomorrow and explains how everything works then that would of course change, but that hasn't happened yet so we control what we can control; ourselves.

It is a contradiction(but I don't want to argue semantics). Within the context of what we do know it is "a" purpose of life but not "our" only purpose as you like to postulate....or that suffering serves us in the hereafter.

Nietzsche believed that in order to endure the hardships of human existence, it is necessary for individuals to believe that their suffering has a purpose.
To focus on 'meaning of suffering' is to avoid the fact we know a lot more about the nature of humanity in regards to evolution. In simple terms: we are animals.

You do not worry about what suffering means to a larvae, or bacteria, why should you worry about its meaning to a human?

This then means that there is no meaning, either in regards to meaning of life, or meaning of suffering. From the perspective of life, that means the meaning of life is whatever you make it to be. This then must also ultimately be the answer to any question regarding meaning of suffering, i.e. There is no meaning, but you damn sure can construct one, especially one that is harmful to your mental health.

Biologically there is only the production of offspring that can be said is the meaning of life. This then means that biologically the meaning of suffering must be for protection, to recognize a bad situation so you can get out of it.

Some suffering can make man more resilient but the amount of suffering that exists on this planet is beyond justification and beyond comprehension that can only be endured by being oblivious to it. Genocide, mutilation and things burning alive. The list goes on.

 

[nolifer]

You don't know what the purpose is or if there is any purpose. It's your choice if you want to believe in religion, god or make up your own theory. All of that is not science though.

Not saying science has all the answers but science does have a lot of answers.

Big bang and evolution is a fact. Science has proven it. And they know big bang was caused by dark matter. What science doesn't have an answer for is how the dark matter was created or if it simply has always existed. It's not necessary that if we go back to the absolute beginning of time, even before big bang, that there was a creation event, that's not necessary because it's possible that dark matter and other things have simply always existed without it having been created.

That's a small part of the scientific facts we have. There's a lot more that can be discussed but just wanted to help out a bit here not write a book.

 

[ksp]

if your purpose in life is to suffer I respect your opinion - my opinion is different. I encourage you to grow: give away your hose, car, and all your money, move to a siberian forest in the middle of winter, and demand putin to respect your right to exist; do you think you'll elevate yourself to a much higher version?

 

[Efilismislife]

Because this is about preparing for what comes after, the big picture. If you're just CTB to run away from pain like so many openly admit here you could be making a massive mistake, it's a narrow view.

Thats also a narrow view to judge people for their decision with their own bodies when you know nothing about it

Now if some higher power comes down tomorrow and explains how everything works then that would of course change, but that hasn't happened yet

higher power....
you mean putin...with his button to nuke the world...

so we control what we can control; ourselves.

Yea People have the right to control wether they want to quit their lives or not

 

[👁️👃👁️]

well it one of two things of which when you die you cease to exist for all time or rebirth, there's obviously no progression between lives and being born is random chance no karma

Or it could be that there's three or four maybe even five different things no one knows.

 

[Darkover]

Or it could be that there's three or four maybe even five different things no one knows.

i don't think so not after 4 billion years of life nothing can step out side of matter atoms you can't exist without them

 

[Forever Sleep]

Guessing you're a fan of psychoanalysis?

Maybe you're right- like you say- who knows? I'm undecided on whether there is a God or a divine plan but from what I can see all around me, I can only surmise that if there is- then it does indeed want us to suffer. Although- not equally...

Maybe there is some great lesson to be learned if we delve deep into all that hurt and survive. Still, we all experience suffering on different levels and in response to different things. Very sensitive, empathetic people (including many people here) will suffer almost constantly just looking around at the world. Some are at the point where they CAN'T even distract themselves from this anymore. Has it made them stronger? Other people with sociopathic/ psychopathic traits seem less troubled by a lot of things.

I do kind of understand where you are coming from. Sometimes, it probably isn't a good idea to keep suppressing the pain we feel or distracting ourselves from it. I firmly believe that emotions need to be expressed rather than be repressed. Still, to claim that by 'staying with the pain' (a quote from a neighbour of mine who was heavily in to psychoanalysis) we turn ourselves into the 'best' version we can be is very debatable I would say. Still, if it works for you- fill your boots.

 

[Darkover]

no integient machine created the universe it wouldn't be so shit if it had done it wouldn't of taken 4 billion years for life to evolve there is no god no plan everything can come to a end in a instant chances are we never make it off this earth resources will run out and civlisation will collaspe