Superdeterminist

Superdeterminist

Enlightened
Apr 5, 2020
1,877
It's agonising how influential looks are in life. It has been clear to me since my school years. Every time, in any group, the best looking people are the most popular, and the worst looking the least popular. A very clear hierarchy develops. Now in adulthood, I still see it manifest in social groups just as powerfully as it did back then, perhaps even more so.

Everyone is excited to interact with the good looking folk, and will generally avoid the bad looking ones. If you're average, you might get some attention, but you will be left behind in favour of the better looking ones, as soon as they show up.

If you look good, then there is a good chance that love will come your way. If you don't, then enjoy solitude. Or, you might be able to settle with someone average or ugly, which some people are content to do. Personally I'm not though. I have only felt attraction for...attractive people. I involuntarily participate in that evil game which I am here condemning.

It cannot be overstated how decisive appearance is in the course of one's life. Jobs opportunities, friends, love; everything that matters to any human. You cannot live a full life if you don't look good, because you won't be granted the necessary opportunities for it.

The amount of suffering caused by looks disparity must be unimaginably vast. If you don't look good you will be outdone by your better looking peers, AND will have to hear them gloat about their successes while you rot alone.

In my opinion, appearance inequality rivals financial inequality in terms of how dire of an issue it is in the world.

What was god thinking when he decided to distribute beauty unevenly among us? What a disastrous design, a sick prank. per the problem of evil, I conclude that he doesn't exist, or he is malevolent.

I'm sure many of you will already agree with this, although not enough of you (everyone).

Beauty is subjective they say, yet undeniable hierarchies form every single time. Everyone wants to date that one girl who I think is beautiful, and no one wants to date that girl who I deem ugly. What an exquisitely convenient coincidence...

There is no point to life if you cannot capture the admiration of others, which you need good looks to achieve. Good luck trying to live a fulfilling life alone. What a lame, disappointing, and painful waste of a world. I cannot wait to get out of here, hopefully soon.
 
  • Like
  • Hugs
  • Love
Reactions: pyx, 4everHeartBroken, SFB123 and 12 others
SuicidalOrganism

SuicidalOrganism

Experienced
May 31, 2023
223
no one escapes aging, once the majority enters their 40-50s, they all start to look washed up. may they all chase plastic surgery should they become bogdanoffs
 
  • Love
Reactions: Reticent Being
H

Hvergelmir

Experienced
May 5, 2024
254
Beauty is subjective they say, yet undeniable hierarchies form every single time. Everyone wants to date that one girl who I think is beautiful, and no one wants to date that girl who I deem ugly. What an exquisitely convenient coincidence...
That's just one observation. More broadly there is a statistical pattern, where beauty is an advantage. But it's far from the only factor. In addition to that much perceived beauty is artificial.

You can affect your appearance, if it's holding you back. But just like other factors you'll get diminishing returns.
I'd argue that intelligence and aptitude for studies is a similarly important factor.
Willpower, focus and the ability to work hard is another.
Being positive, not giving up, and raising confidence and spirit of others is yet another.

You definitely need certain traits to be successful, but none of those are static. You can't change the rules of the game. You're better off thinking about how to play the hand you've been dealt.
 
  • Like
  • Love
Reactions: SFB123, TapeMachine and Jorms_McGander
J

Jorms_McGander

Arcanist
Oct 17, 2023
478
My mental illness has done a good job negating my good looks, hehe. I'll die alone a pretty old man
 
  • Yay!
  • Love
Reactions: 4everHeartBroken and TapeMachine
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,013
Looksmax
 
  • Like
  • Yay!
Reactions: FERAL_FRENZY, innominesatanas44, SuicidalOrganism and 1 other person
EvisceratedJester

EvisceratedJester

|| What Else Could I Be But a Jester ||
Oct 21, 2023
3,634
Lookism is a huge problem in our society and as beauty standards heighten it will only get worse, especially for women. It's getting worse for men too, especially as increasing gender equality means that women can get careers and don't have to rely on men anymore, thus men are now feeling more pressured to focus on their looks to score a partner since just having a good job doesnt cut anymore. Still, women tend to get judged more harshly for their looks and not being conventionally attractive as a woman can lead to having fewer opportunities since our looks come first before our intelligence, personality, or anything else.

no one escapes aging, once the majority enters their 40-50s, they all start to look washed up. may they all chase plastic surgery should they become bogdanoffs
You can find plenty of people in their 40s and 50s who look good, hence the whole MILF/DILF thing going on. I've even seen a bunch of people thirsting after some teacher in her 50s in the comment section of some YouTube video I watched a few years back. Looking good when you are old comes down to a mixture of genetics and good self-care, along with good fashion and styling. While I do think that there is a huge issue in regards to the how beauty standards, ageism, and sexism all intersect with one another, there is no lying that are some older people who are still good looking, like Christina Hendricks. My dad still gets hit on despite being 50 and my mom has gotten hit on despite being 40. The person who I'm love with is 51, lol.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Reticent Being, SuicidalOrganism, Alexei_Kirillov and 1 other person
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,152
Looks don't get you far enough if you don't have any ability to utilize the opportunities they give you unless you're a perfect 10 and everyone around you happens to be in the 1s or 2s I guess but even that is subjective.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Alexei_Kirillov
Angst Filled Fuck Up

Angst Filled Fuck Up

Visionary
Sep 9, 2018
2,985
As a based chad, professor of quantum rizzics and daddy to all the forum thots, I definitely agree with this. It sucks for you uggos, but it's just the way things are. I got myself a mirror for my birthday this year and I'm planning on doing the same again next March.
 
  • Yay!
  • Like
Reactions: Aergia, FERAL_FRENZY, damyon and 2 others
Dr Iron Arc

Dr Iron Arc

Into the Unknown
Feb 10, 2020
21,152
As a based chad, professor of quantum rizzics and daddy to all the forum thots, I definitely agree with this. It sucks for you uggos, but it's just the way things are. I got myself a mirror for my birthday this year and I'm planning on doing the same again next March.
Gyatt that skibidi mew like the Rizzler. Straight up fanum tax on us Ohiopilled looksmaxxers.
 
  • Love
  • Like
Reactions: damyon and Angst Filled Fuck Up
D

damyon

Specialist
Mar 6, 2024
344
no one escapes aging, once the majority enters their 40-50s, they all start to look washed up. may they all chase plastic surgery should they become bogdanoffs
Once you capitalized on your advantage in your 10-30s, you can continue accumulating advantage in your 40-50s. Life is about who can stay relevant for the longest.

Concise and straight to the point. The best rational response in this thread along with the argument that Hvergelmir made.

Looks don't get you far enough if you don't have any ability to utilize the opportunities they give you unless you're a perfect 10 and everyone around you happens to be in the 1s or 2s I guess but even that is subjective.
You are wrong.
Being an 8 around 5-6s is better than being a 10 around 1-2s. When you're a 10 among 2s, it often brings envy rather than attraction.

You are right about the part that looks don't get you far if you don't utilize them.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Dr Iron Arc
Vicolo cieco

Vicolo cieco

Student
May 14, 2024
109
The blackpill is not limited to physical appearance, it affects every area of existence. Human traits (e.g. beauty/ugliness, intelligence/stupidity, conscientiousness/laziness, extroversion/introversion, etc.) are unequally distributed and some people get the short end of the stick since they inherit a combination of all the worst traits. Life is truly unfair.
 
  • Aww..
  • Informative
Reactions: SFB123 and sserafim
LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

Angelic
Jul 23, 2022
4,243
It really is such a depressing part of social reality! And the worst part is you can't help but participate in it.

And we can't even blame human shallowness for it as it's a universal animal thing. Which bird has the best plumage? Which deer has the best horns? (You'll see that male non-human animals are under the greater pressure.) Just an inevitable consequence of sexual reproduction.
 
  • Informative
  • Aww..
Reactions: SFB123 and Dr Iron Arc
SuicidalOrganism

SuicidalOrganism

Experienced
May 31, 2023
223
You can find plenty of people in their 40s and 50s who look good, hence the whole MILF/DILF thing going on. I've even seen a bunch of people thirsting after some teacher in her 50s in the comment section of some YouTube video I watched a few years back. Looking good when you are old comes down to a mixture of genetics and good self-care, along with good fashion and styling. While I do think that there is a huge issue in regards to the how beauty standards, ageism, and sexism all intersect with one another, there is no lying that are some older people who are still good looking, like Christina Hendricks. My dad still gets hit on despite being 50 and my mom has gotten hit on despite being 40. The person who I'm love with is 51, lol.
u have a point. one thing i wanna point out which is off-topic is that beauty standards become more and more prevalent worldwide, the barrier of beauty keeps going higher, and even more people than before chase these so-called beauty standards so that they can finally be satisfied with how they look. it could probably be a matter of time until the majority of society become obsessed with looking attractive in order to solve their internal issues (i,e dating, acceptance, halo-effect, perks, etc) and that might influence the growing prevalence of lookism amongst individuals.
 
  • Like
Reactions: EvisceratedJester
sserafim

sserafim

brighter than the sun, that’s just me
Sep 13, 2023
9,013
My mental illness has done a good job negating my good looks, hehe. I'll die alone a pretty old man
Same but I'll die alone young and beautiful. I'll stay pretty even in death. It's actually part of why I want to die young, to preserve my beauty. People say that I'm "very attractive" lol
 
Lady Laudanum

Lady Laudanum

Here for a bad time, not a long time
May 9, 2024
807
I've been on both ends of the spectrum in terms of looks. I was unattractive when I was younger. I had major flaws but they were completely fixable with surgery. I also had terrible skin, no sense of style, and I just didn't take care of myself. I'm in my early-mid 20s now. After 2 major plastic surgeries, lip fillers, botox, eyelash extensions, getting my hair done professionally, learning to do my makeup, taking better care of my skin, and figuring out what clothes flatter me, I'm objectively good-looking and I actually work part time as a model.

The difference in how I was treated was crazy. I went from being made fun of for my appearance, being told that I needed plastic surgery, being told that I need to go "back to the drawing board," etc. to getting compliments from people. People used to roll their eyes at me or literally turn away when I tried to talk to them. No one does that now. In fact, people are generally nice to me, at least outwardly. However, I have heard people say things like "getting plastic surgery doesn't count because you weren't naturally good looking," or "no amount of changing your appearance is going to change the fact that you're ugly on the inside." I would take those kinds of comments (which in the grand scheme of things I don't receive often), over being bullied for my looks, any day. I don't regret getting plastic surgery and I never will. I still have body dysmorphia. However, it's better to hate my appearance while objectively knowing I look good, than to hate my appearance while objectively knowing I'm right to hate it.

My combined income from my normal job as a blue collar worker and side job as a model make it possible to afford to spend a significant amount of money on my appearance. However, I'm still spending well within my means. For me personally, getting plastic surgery was definitely the right choice, but I would not recommend it unless you can comfortably afford double the cost of the surgery plus 3 months of living expenses. It's not a one size fits all solution, but if you're financially comfortable then I would not write it off as a possibility.
 
Last edited:
  • Informative
  • Like
  • Hugs
Reactions: SFB123, Hvergelmir, EvisceratedJester and 2 others
hot

hot

Mar 3, 2024
173
Lookism is so incredibly real.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Superdeterminist
Sakura.

Sakura.

Chciałbym, żeby wszystko się już skończyło.
May 1, 2024
64
Unfortunately, I agree with everything you wrote...

Especially with this part...
If you look good, then there is a good chance that love will come your way. If you don't, then enjoy solitude. Or, you might be able to settle with someone average or ugly, which some people are content to do. Personally I'm not though. I have only felt attraction for...attractive people. I involuntarily participate in that evil game which I am here condemning.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Superdeterminist
pollux

pollux

Knight of Infinite Resignation
May 24, 2024
181
The blackpill is not limited to physical appearance, it affects every area of existence. Human traits (e.g. beauty/ugliness, intelligence/stupidity, conscientiousness/laziness, extroversion/introversion, etc.) are unequally distributed and some people get the short end of the stick since they inherit a combination of all the worst traits. Life is truly unfair.

弱肉強食
 
  • Like
Reactions: damyon and Vicolo cieco

Similar threads

C
Replies
0
Views
103
Suicide Discussion
CantDoIt
C
deadtrace
Replies
2
Views
116
Suicide Discussion
Namelesa
Namelesa
quietpill
Replies
9
Views
221
Offtopic
quietpill
quietpill
DisillusionedDruid
Replies
3
Views
166
Suicide Discussion
DisillusionedDruid
DisillusionedDruid
lawlietsph
Replies
33
Views
778
Suicide Discussion
AuroraB
AuroraB