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Darkover

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The root of all evil originates from this diabolical physical reality governed by its physical laws. This is what allows the existence and potentially of life in the first place.

why must there be something? WHY CAN'T THERE BE NOTHING!!?? No particles, no space, no time, no humans, no suffering, nothing. THAT'S THE REALITY I WANT! NO, THAT'S THE PARADISE WE ALL NEED.

Tragically, that can't happen. Scientific laws of nature and philosophical objections make nothingness impossible. Instead, we're all trapped in this dungeon, feeding on the flesh of the living and grinding the bones of the dead. The birth of the universe is what's at fault here.

I wish everything would just vanish instantly and permanently right this moment, like nothing ever happened.
 
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FuneralCry

FuneralCry

Just wanting some peace
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I also just wish for non-existence, no matter what only the absence of everything could ever be desirable to me, I find it very tragic how life exists at all causing so much endless cruelty and suffering as a result. It's comforting to think of this existence finally disappearing into nothingness where all is permanently forgotten about, existence itself really is the true problem.
 
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eLdus

eLdus

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There is going to be nothing one day, but it won't be for several thousand trillion trillion trillion years. Once the last black holes have died.
At that point "Nothing happens and it keeps on happening. Forever."

I find this both haunting and oddly comforting.

 
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searchingforpeace

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I actually experienced this state of pure being once by accident and it's everything you would think it is and more unfortunately coming back from it is the worst agony you could imagine imagine being free of everything and then coming back
 
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Forever Sleep

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There is going to be nothing one day, but it won't be for several thousand trillion trillion trillion years. Once the last black holes have died.
At that point "Nothing happens and it keeps on happening. Forever."

I find this both haunting and oddly comforting.



I've always been crap at physics and honestly, I skipped through the video- although, it does look really interesting. I don't get how a black hole 'dies' or evaporates though. I thought they weren't in fact holes at all but incredibly dense matter- which is why they create gravity and suck stuff in. Even when something evaporates though- there are gas molecules there- surely? What is actual space or 'nothing' anyway? If there are gasses there- then, isn't that still matter?

Honestly, it's all too big to get my head around. I find it weird to think that space has an edge but then, endless space is just as weird. I don't know. I just can't really believe that one day there will be nothing everywhere. There just seems like there's too much crap everywhere to get rid of it all at once! Why shouldn't there be other lifeforms out there too? Maybe even different time zones. Even if life ends for the human species, (the sooner the better to give everything else a chance,) that doesn't mean all life everywhere will end- surely?

But then- like I say, I'm stupid! I can't even get my head around how maths equations equate with real life events! It just seems so bizarre.
 
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eLdus

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I've always been crap at physics and honestly, I skipped through the video- although, it does look really interesting. I don't get how a black hole 'dies' or evaporates though. I thought they weren't in fact holes at all but incredibly dense matter- which is why they create gravity and suck stuff in. Even when something evaporates though- there are gas molecules there- surely? What is actual space or 'nothing' anyway? If there are gasses there- then, isn't that still matter?

Honestly, it's all too big to get my head around. I find it weird to think that space has an edge but then, endless space is just as weird. I don't know. I just can't really believe that one day there will be nothing everywhere. There just seems like there's too much crap everywhere to get rid of it all at once! Why shouldn't there be other lifeforms out there too? Maybe even different time zones. Even if life ends for the human species, (the sooner the better to give everything else a chance,) that doesn't mean all life everywhere will end- surely?

But then- like I say, I'm stupid! I can't even get my head around how maths equations equate with real life events! It just seems so bizarre.

No worries, I'm crap at physics too and struggle to get my head around any of it.
I think the idea is that eventually, after immeasurably vast amounts of time, the energy of all molecules eventually dies out until there is no matter left. And then at that point, even time itself ceases to exist.
It's all completely mindblowing tbh.

I just come back to the video every so often to remind myself how insignificant I am, in the vast scheme of things. And how none of this shit really matters.
That's the bit I find strangely comforting, when I'm trying to deal with the horrendous day to day.
 
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Forever Sleep

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No worries, I'm crap at physics too and struggle to get my head around any of it.
I think the idea is that eventually, after immeasurably vast amounts of time, the energy of all molecules eventually dies out until there is no matter left. And then at that point, even time itself ceases to exist.
It's all completely mindblowing tbh.

I just come back to the video every so often to remind myself how insignificant I am, in the vast scheme of things. And how none of this shit really matters.
That's the bit I find strangely comforting, when I'm trying to deal with the horrendous day to day.

That's so true- it does help I think to realise how tiny we are. A mere speck in terms of time and matter. It somehow scares me though in a way! Not that I'm agoraphobic but I find all that infinite space scary. I think it was an episode of the cartoon: 'Super Ted' I saw when I was a child when he was just stuck floating out in space that first frightened me. I don't think I'd be able to sleep at night if I was clever enough to be a physicist and I could get my head around all that vastness!

That's the other thing though- I thought there was that whole: 'energy can't be created or destroyed, only transfered' thing. I suppose everything could be transfered into heat- fire, which burns itself out but then- wouldn't there be ash? I just can't get my head around it. Imagine having a mind that understood all that! That in itself seems incredible to me!
 
eLdus

eLdus

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That's so true- it does help I think to realise how tiny we are. A mere speck in terms of time and matter. It somehow scares me though in a way! Not that I'm agoraphobic but I find all that infinite space scary. I think it was an episode of the cartoon: 'Super Ted' I saw when I was a child when he was just stuck floating out in space that first frightened me. I don't think I'd be able to sleep at night if I was clever enough to be a physicist and I could get my head around all that vastness!

That's the other thing though- I thought there was that whole: 'energy can't be created or destroyed, only transfered' thing. I suppose everything could be transfered into heat- fire, which burns itself out but then- wouldn't there be ash? I just can't get my head around it. Imagine having a mind that understood all that! That in itself seems incredible to me!
Hehe, Super Ted, I remember that! I was not expecting to talk about quantum physics and Super Ted in this thread. Makes me smile :)
 
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searchingforpeace

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Nov 26, 2022
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We actually are that infinite space having a delusion which is beyond weird
 
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Raindancer

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Nov 4, 2023
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I am also a dunce at physics, but I love learning about our universe. If you believe in multiverses, actually most are exactly that, nothing, no existence . I saw an interview with Michio Kaku and he said out of all the possible multiverses, ours could potentially be the only one with life, so you would just have to figure out how to get to a different verse. Personally my brain hurts when I try and think about this, but it is interesting.
 
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MatrixPrisoner

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There is going to be nothing one day, but it won't be for several thousand trillion trillion trillion years. Once the last black holes have died.
At that point "Nothing happens and it keeps on happening. Forever."

I find this both haunting and oddly comforting.


Then I wish I was living thousand trillion trillion nine hundred ninety nine billion nine hundred ninety nine million nine hundred ninety nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine years and three hundred sixty four days in the future than right now.
 
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