The Next Life

[Dewdmael]

I think one of the biggest problem I have with ending this bullshit is that I have no idea what is next.

I've read the vedas and they seem to think they if you have attachments in this world and you haven't done any great deeds then you end up going "down" into a lower kind of existence. It would would suck to go through the trouble of killing myself just to wake up into the body of a feral cat.

Personally, I've lost hope in the existence of a benevolent guy in heaven who actually gives a shit about his children. If there is anything, I imagine its just a place of concentrated emotion. According to the Vedas, I don't seem to have done what it takes to obtain it, which depresses me so much more.a

And finally, the idea that maybe I'll wake up in hell in deep regret for not trying to wait a little longer.

I am in torment about this and wish for comfort.

 

[akrasia]

It's scary to think what would happen when we die. It's hard to comprehend since the human mind is design to survive.
I want to believe that there's a place specially for us after death. Somewhat like SS, a place where the "unwanted" in society would go. A place where there's only peace and happiness.
But, we would never know. The dead would never tell.

 

[PrettyMoose]

We are no more important than ants or bacteria. Do single celled organisms fret about hell or about ending up as a lower form (which would probably be a virus at that point) if they don't do great things? Does an ant try and do great things so that it may become a human in its next life? What does doing great things as an ant mean, and why does the universe care? Why would the universe care about what we do as bigger ants, as more complex bacteria?

 

[Dewdmael]

We are no more important than ants or bacteria. Do single celled organisms fret about hell or about ending up as a lower form (which would probably be a virus at that point) if they don't do great things? Does an ant try and do great things so that it may become a human in its next life? What does doing great things as an ant mean, and why does the universe care? Why would the universe care about what we do as bigger ants, as more complex bacteria?

Yeah, from what I understand, some folks think you could even go into a rock. Seems like bullshit to me, but the mystery of consciousness goes behind any kind of science or understanding that we know of.

 

[codewarrior]

I've read Vedas too. A lot of translations interpret these books in their own way.

It takes lots of birth-death cycles to end up as human being and basically the whole idea is to value it as much. Now it doesn't mean you would go under lowly existence again. Suppose a murderer who killed someone and emotionally affected some family, if he ends up being a cat does he be able to repay back or feel the emotion what the other family has suffered? Or he ends up being a human again with a lowly life where he suffers everyday to daily earn and he even losing someone dearly? There are three kinds of love, love for physical intimacy, love for heart and love for mind and wisdom. Animals can have love for intimacy and heart and only humans can have and give love for mind and wisdom. Human suffering is far real, animals doent have to earn or satisfy egos.

I've read Vedic Vimshottari Dasha system and found it interesting on how planetary system affects our lives and gives desired results over time, What I've understood is there is one big thing in this world that effects anyone irrespective of religion and that is "Karma". It works like a balance sheet system where "Debit" and "Credit" should match and overall result should be "Zero". Meaning, you keep earning and you keep paying back until your karmic debt is zero, it might take some lives until it happens and once done you would be free from taking births, karmic debts are tracked through soul not through physical bodies. We end up our lives thinking we are free, but we will never be free until we repay our karmic debts. What you grow is what you reap. Catching a train to NY would always end up in NY only, not Chicago. Whatever is your destiny, you would have your freewill to change or achieve whatever you would want. Nobody knows, what or where is hell or heaven, nobody knows if reincarnation is real, but we know one thing that one life we are living right now and how best we can make use of it. If someone is ending his life, its just simply going before time. Now vedic system also refers to concept of souls which I do not want to discuss and there are number of interesting things.

Another interesting aspect, the day one would leave attachments, one would leave ego or his ego would be destroyed, a day where anything doesnt affect a person and a man is indeed on quest to find who he is or finding God, this is what vedas refer to as de-attachment. But in real world, its difficult to impossible to achieve complete deattachment. The 'Gita' says and what I've agree that the biggest deed of a person is Karma and everyone is free to do whatever he wishes to with his life. Everything is here, hell or heaven.

 

[jaroz]

I think one of the biggest problem I have with ending this bullshit is that I have no idea what is next.

I've read the vedas and they seem to think they if you have attachments in this world and you haven't done any great deeds then you end up going "down" into a lower kind of existence. It would would suck to go through the trouble of killing myself just to wake up into the body of a feral cat.

Personally, I've lost hope in the existence of a benevolent guy in heaven who actually gives a shit about his children. If there is anything, I imagine its just a place of concentrated emotion. According to the Vedas, I don't seem to have done what it takes to obtain it, which depresses me so much more.a

And finally, the idea that maybe I'll wake up in hell in deep regret for not trying to wait a little longer.

I am in torment about this and wish for comfort.

So I have a theory. In quantum physics data can't be destroyed, and matter doesn't have a constant form until it's observed, and you cant observe "nothing" so I think we start over again, with slightly different circumstances

 

[last_tour]

Lets say your consciousness does change to another place through quantum teleportation. You won't have any recollection of your previous life, like how we don't know what we were before we were born human. So what if you reincarnate into a cat? you'd be content with your existence as one and would only be afraid of gaining or losing something as a cat. Just lIke how we are content with being human and afraid to be something that isn't human only cause we think being human is thats all their is to be.

As humans we think we are the best species, but in an apocalyptical event, humans might go extinct first, while insects would be the most likely survivrors. Does that make them better? Their is no better or worse species since everything is evolving to adapt to the environment. Humans could evolve or devolve depending on the circumstances.

FInally hell is a human concept, a fish or a bird doesn't know what hell is..im guessing when you die you won't be human, maybe quantum particles get teleported somewhere to another body, so you will have no concept of human-hell. Even if you did go to "hell", you would be born as something that has adapted to the harsh environment of hell but you would think thats completely normal!

 

[codewarrior]

If one believes in the concept of reincarnation, its for sure one doesnt up in low form if born as a human. It could be a fresh start again immediately or may be delayed. Some people have documented incidents where their parents/grand parents made their existence felt after death(may be the concept of hyperbole is true where there is another world where gravity isnt a dimension and time doesnt flow, scalar energy exists) while some people were able to recollect what they were in previous lives. Please see a well documented case of "Shanti Devi" and even a wikipedia page exists. Technically no one can prove its 100% real though. However the biggest truth of life is one has to leave this body one day. The next life scenario shouldnt matter much though.

 

[BPD Barbie]

It's scary to think what would happen when we die. It's hard to comprehend since the human mind is design to survive.
I want to believe that there's a place specially for us after death. Somewhat like SS, a place where the "unwanted" in society would go. A place where there's only peace and happiness.
But, we would never know. The dead would never tell.

Basically this. Its comforting to think there is more afterwards, but is there? Honestly we won't ever know until the time comes, until then, we can only speculate.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

And finally, the idea that maybe I'll wake up in hell in deep regret for not trying to wait a little longer.

Would you rather be a slave in heaven or a rebel in hell? come on, fuck a god who punishes you for escaping his unnecessary torture. If we meet in hell, we will form a rebellion against this tyrant.

 

[Walilamdzi]

Can someone explain to me how things balance with expanding population if consciousness is recycled? How could we have a population explosion of that level. if there are a finite number of souls?

 

[jaroz]

Can someone explain to me how things balance with expanding population if consciousness is recycled? How could we have a population explosion of that level. if there are a finite number of souls?

I don't think it's like individual souls. I think like gravitons, our conscious spreads through dimensions. So once your bodies dead, it floats back in time and you restart. If that were the case, then I doubt there's a limit

 

[262653]

What about the idea of someone waking up in hell precisely because he waited for too long? You know, since God is beyond our comprehension, and might work mysterious ways.

 

[a.n.kirillov]

I think it's gravitational wave information travelling through fairy dust at light speed.

The furthest I can understand rebirth is that our consciousness is qualitatively the same (all conscious life forms) and undiffetentiated, and that this consciousness will continue to exist. But it won't be you. It will be what it is, a task manager in animals brains, an observer function; all the particular memories and peculiarities are part of your particular brain.

 

[Walilamdzi]

I don't think it's like individual souls. I think like gravitons, our conscious spreads through dimensions. So once your bodies dead, it floats back in time and you restart. If that were the case, then I doubt there's a limit

You think you restart your own life?

 

[Nuggest]

Reject any feelings of regret or debt. Never forget, you were forced into this hellhole.

Z (Α-Ω).pdf

 

[AcornUnderground]

I spoke to a psychic medium yesterday or the day before, so did my boyfriend. I may have connected with my dead mother. Maybe. She was really accurate with a lot with me/Mom, and very accurate with his two dead grandfathers. It makes me wonder. I just don't understand how these psychics would be able to report some of the things that they're able to report, without being told. Then again, I wonder what my mother is doing on the other side sitting around with a pet dog. She hates dogs. And how long do you live an ordinary life over there? An eternity? Why not just be here for eternity, petting your dog? Makes no sense.

 

[Thatdude]

It's impossible for anyone to say if there is a next life or what happens. For all we know it could be nothing, you could be reborn, or somewhere between.
If it's the heaven or hell stuff. I have a feeling it's more like an isekai form some anime. The reason why I say this is let's say you and someone else don't get along and it will be hell for you to be around them. You're stuck in heaven and they are. The only fix is everyone gets their personal heaven. Like how many times does some famous person want to interact with others?

I mean to me that is the best case. The worse case is you're reborn with no choice nor any memories of your past life. Then even worse than that is if you can't stop the loop.

Then let's say nothing happens. Nothing happens and this means we suffer needlessly.

Again there is no way to know. I just hope I find out soon.

 

[jaroz]

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You think you restart your own life?

think so, i think a few details will be different, like maybe your parebts are drug addicts in one, engeneers in another. I think we go through it over abd over again with different decisions amd outcomes each time

 

[codewarrior]

Can someone explain to me how things balance with expanding population if consciousness is recycled? How could we have a population explosion of that level. if there are a finite number of souls?

Its not worth thinking if all living beings are finite or infinite. Having fixed number doesn't satisfy the evolution criteria. Billions of years ago there would have been only one single cell life organism and life started from there on earth.

think so, i think a few details will be different, like maybe your parebts are drug addicts in one, engeneers in another. I think we go through it over abd over again with different decisions amd outcomes each time

May be or may be not, its our own perceptions to satisfy our own selves, reality is what we are living now. Once gone it really shouldnt matter where we end up and how we start again as you wont remember anything (coz memories are stored in physical brain here) neither would anyone know provided the concept of soul exists.

A person would always be known by his workactions though. In any life, what really matters the kind of base he got (birth advantage), the kind of environment he receives (growth advantage from child to adulthood) and the kind of actions he takes (work action). May be the birth advantage one gets is through the previous actions of life.