Venting The lifespan of SS

[SleepingGirl]

Seeing this site under attack again is so unfortunate. I had to double take when I saw this place pop up on another forum I lurk who luckily aren't against us, but finding out other places are, I can't help but to worry about the life span of this place. If anything SS helps me hold out longer because I'm freely open to talk about my desire to die when I'm pain without being silenced and with in the company of others who share similar experiences. It makes one feel less alone and is ultimately the type of people I seek because they understand which is so hard to find in this world. I doubt SS will be forever and out of it's ashes will likely be born another place for people like us but I feel like it's going to become harder and harder to find access to these spaces.

Society is so invasive and we should be aloud to do what we want with out own bodies and lives, truly fuck pro-lifers and their lack of empathy. It's so obvious it's all a cover either for their own pain/fear of death or lack of control of others, they don't truly care about us when they want to take sites like this down, only themselves because they'd rather blame someone else for little Timmy's death instead of the environment in which they're forced to live or even themselves.

 

[Wisdom3_1-9]

I think about losing this site, too. I'm sure something else will pop up if that was ever the case, but the community would be fractured. I also think about the records of hundreds of interactions I've had and thoughts I've shared that would be wiped away.

Those who oppose this forum will never agree with this statement, but I believe it fiercely. Shutting down this site will not save any lives. Those who visit this site and end up ctb would have done so anyway. They would have found a way. (And possibly a much less peaceful way.)

Overwhelmingly, the more common story of this site is people who visit/join and end up *not* ctb, because they could actually talk about it openly with other suicidal people. If they really wanted to save lives, they'd support this site. But that's not their goal. It's just virtue signaling.

 

[CTB Dream]

Hope forum ok not want lose, if lose forum lose all not even thing left be vege. Foru last thing connect me broken shard
Forum life suport own

 

[wantittoendsoon]

I kind of think about the arguments for Abortion...if they close this site, people will still commit suicide but likely with far worse results than if they had been informed. I for one had many ways to commit suicide in my head that I know now would probably fail...now I have a much better method...Thank You SS

 

[SleepingGirl]

I think about losing this site, too. I'm sure something else will pop up if that was ever the case, but the community would be fractured. I also think about the records of hundreds of interactions I've had and thoughts I've shared that would be wiped away.

Those who oppose this forum will never agree with this statement, but I believe it fiercely. Shutting down this site will not save any lives. Those who visit this site and end up ctb would have done so anyway. They would have found a way. (And possibly a much less peaceful way.)

Overwhelmingly, the more common story of this site is people who visit/join and end up *not* ctb, because they could actually talk about it openly with other suicidal people. If they really wanted to save lives, they'd support this site. But that's not their goal. It's just virtue signaling.

This, I definitely went from planning how to cut myself and have a bleed out to having a much safer and peaceful way that is less likely to end in extreme pain and the possibility of disabling myself further if it failed. As romanticized bleeding out deaths are in the media, cutting through that much tendon is hell after you research about it. Not letting people talk about these things and censoring literally everything also ends up with bottling things up which can obviously lead to even more disastrous events.

I kind of think about the arguments for Abortion...if they close this site, people will still commit suicide but likely with far worse results than if they had been informed. I for one had many ways to commit suicide in my head that I know now would probably fail...now I have a much better method...Thank You SS

I also think about psychological aspect of it all, the more something is censored and covered up the more conspiracy and lack of trust in others start to rise and then you just end up with battles that are so black and white no middle ground is ever met with debates.

 

[locked*n*loaded]

This site's been around quite a while. They've gone "off line" previously and have always reappeared. Hopefully, they can stay around. I think what a lot of the foes of SS don't understand is that insomuch as this is a freedom of information site, it is, also, a freedom of expression site, meaning that people are free to come here and vent about their life circumstances and work things out. What the foes don't understand is that there's power in finding out that you're not the only one having problems in life. Sure, some end up taking their lives. I'm sure those people would have ended up killing themselves even if they hadn't found this site. But, on the flip-side, there's more people here on SS who HAVEN'T killed themselves and in many cases that is because of being able to talk freely about their feelings with others who can truly understand what it feels like to want to kill one's self.

 

[Wannagonow]

I tried to get onto SS several times today and was unable to get on. I thought someone shut us down. It turned out I just had to change the way I get here. It was all me.

Normally I wouldn't have a mini meltdown like I did. All this stupid video crap just has me on high alert I guess.

 

[Unending]

That would be tragic if SaSu was actually taken down over something like this video. I'd hope there would be some kind of plan b in order but don't even know what that would look like.

 

[littlelady774]

We'd have to have our forum on the dark web or something

 

[Myforevercharlie]

It happened before, it will blow over. Until now it always did.

People will loose interest again when something else ' despicable' will come into view

 

[Kobusu]

I don't think this place would ever really go away. As long as there's suicidal people and we're not really safe talking about it openly, this'll exist.

 

[Euthanza]

Fuck NPC pro-lifers, all they wanna do is making us infantile, they wanna take our dignity in end of life decision, now they want to shut down our freedom of expression, they are the very reason why there are so many suicide mess all over the world

 

[in hell out soon]

if the site goes down ill just go back to more harmful, public methods.
not having a safe method out to take myself out on my own terms means i will go further afield.

its basic logic.

 

[tolearn123]

Seeing this site under attack again is so unfortunate. I had to double take when I saw this place pop up on another forum I lurk who luckily aren't against us, but finding out other places are, I can't help but to worry about the life span of this place. If anything SS helps me hold out longer because I'm freely open to talk about my desire to die when I'm pain without being silenced and with in the company of others who share similar experiences. It makes one feel less alone and is ultimately the type of people I seek because they understand which is so hard to find in this world. I doubt SS will be forever and out of it's ashes will likely be born another place for people like us but I feel like it's going to become harder and harder to find access to these spaces.

Society is so invasive and we should be aloud to do what we want with out own bodies and lives, truly fuck pro-lifers and their lack of empathy. It's so obvious it's all a cover either for their own pain/fear of death or lack of control of others, they don't truly care about us when they want to take sites like this down, only themselves because they'd rather blame someone else for little Timmy's death instead of the environment in which they're forced to live or even themselves.

Can you share what other forums did you see this site on that are not against us ? I have been in panic mode thinking what if this site shuts down. For me I joined site this year but I have been thinking about ctb since I was 14 , I am currently 32 ! I am glad I found this site because I know that I can use methods that would let me ctb with dignity. As my previous methods were not a dignified way to go .

 

[suisuiforum]

Can you share what other forums did you see this site on that are not against us ? I have been in panic mode thinking what if this site shuts down. For me I joined site this year but I have been thinking about ctb since I was 14 , I am currently 32 ! I am glad I found this site because I know that I can use methods that would let me ctb with dignity. As my previous methods were not a dignified way to go .

I'm not sure if this is what OP was talking about, but I also found a kiwifarms thread that goes into extensive detail about SS and even debunks the erroneous claims in the Tantacrul video. They think that taking down SS would threaten their own forum because the mainstream media attacks these two sites so similarly.

 

[AerialBoundaries]

Having no place for discourse would only make things worse.

Do these people realise that the method of how one takes their own life has a significant impact on their loved ones? A brutal, messy suicide infinitely fucks them up a lot more. I've witnessed it first hand. They couldn't even have an open casket.

I want to be considerate to everyone involved if the time ever comes for me and having the knowledge to do that is very comforting.

 

[tolearn123]

I'm not sure if this is what OP was talking about, but I also found a kiwifarms thread that goes into extensive detail about SS and even debunks the erroneous claims in the Tantacrul video. They think that taking down SS would threaten their own forum because the mainstream media attacks these two sites so similarly.

Thank you for sharing that. It's good to know that we have people who do understand us

 

[MidnightCat]

I'm not sure if this is what OP was talking about, but I also found a kiwifarms thread that goes into extensive detail about SS and even debunks the erroneous claims in the Tantacrul video. They think that taking down SS would threaten their own forum because the mainstream media attacks these two sites so similarly.

It's actually a great post and piece of history. Thanks for sharing it.


Most probably (at least, I hope) SS's not going anywhere, and if it closed... It's a matter of time it's coming back.


Although not easy to understand for outsiders, closing it is not a solution. It will not help.

Yes, maybe SN or N will be less common without SS, but all those people would have just jumped out a bridge, crashed their car or used a bullet thought their heads. So.. What's the point?


If you share suicidal thoughts on other forums, Reddit, Twitter or whatever you'll just get the "ask for help!!" To whom? Some may find it (and I'm glad for them) but most will not even if they ask for it.


At least, here people can vent and feel a little warm between likeminded people.

 

[looseye]

From what I have seen so far, pretty much all of the people who demonize this platform are just repeating highly exaggerated words and phrases they heard someone else say. If they would have accessed SaSu and spent a minimum of 5 minutes (yes, just five!) on here, it would've been easy for them to see how much of an absolute trainwreck those claims about our community actually are.

Well, with the forum being private now it's kinda hard to see anything, but the ones who started this whole shitstorm are morally responsible for double-checking the information presented by some random dude who usually makes amateur music content. They failed doing so. I wouldn't be surprised if the majority of the folks who are wasting their time (and money, lol) trying to take SaSu down right now were nothing more than edgy, mid-puberty stage teenagers. The severe lack in their attention span speaks for itself, really...

 

[fuzzy-clown]

I hope we don't lose this community because I've gotten accustomed to quite a few people here. It's a comforting place for me. There are so many different types of people here that I can always find someone I can relate to.

I'll always want to be part of some CTB community because being suicidal has been part of my identity since I was a child.

I can't promise I'll be a "success story" of someone who stays alive because of SS, but that's the beauty of this place -- I feel that if my death was made easier and less prone to leaving me damaged instead, then SS is happy for me. If I die but being here helped me sort out my thoughts and gave me comfort, then SS is happy for me.

 

[jodes2]

Nah they can't take this place away. There are so many ways for it to keep on going. They've already thrown a lot at this place and it just keeps coming back stronger I think it's hilarious, actually. The pro-lifers can go and fuck themselves

 

[FuneralCry]

It won't last and there is nothing that we can do about this, it's just the way that things are in this pro suffering society. It's very tragic the way that so many people view suicide, and as a result they wish to force others to suffer until they deteriorate from old age, the truth is that suicide could never be something that is wrong in any way and the decision to die should be respected as being a personal decision. It's unacceptable to view suicide as being anything else, but those people who wish to restrict method options absolutely disgust me.

At least to me, it makes sense to wish to be free from this hellish world and it would be different if something happened to those people to make them want to ctb. But anyway, people deserve to have the choice to leave without having to resort to the most risky and painful methods.

 

[hellispink]

This is the only place where I can be myself. I don't even wanna think about it. I was so lost before I came here and felt very lonely. But now even at the worst moment, I know I ain't alone as long as we all have each other to respect our decisions in life

 

[nozomu]

I think about losing this site, too. I'm sure something else will pop up if that was ever the case, but the community would be fractured. I also think about the records of hundreds of interactions I've had and thoughts I've shared that would be wiped away.

Those who oppose this forum will never agree with this statement, but I believe it fiercely. Shutting down this site will not save any lives. Those who visit this site and end up ctb would have done so anyway. They would have found a way. (And possibly a much less peaceful way.)

Overwhelmingly, the more common story of this site is people who visit/join and end up *not* ctb, because they could actually talk about it openly with other suicidal people. If they really wanted to save lives, they'd support this site. But that's not their goal. It's just virtue signaling.

Echoing everything you said 100%.

 

[Relic]

I hope we don't lose this community because I've gotten accustomed to quite a few people here.

Those few people. Isn't that the hardest part? That one day they will be just... gone. As dull as it sounds, there are no happy ends. Experienced this here and generally in life, up close and personal. Every end is inherently tragic, because of what leads up to it.

Trying to mentally, legally and financially overload the people who run a community, these are the only tools they have. And were starting to get a bit dull, so now the overlords are getting into sharpening them.
So, many have given up trying to fight the crusade, because this is what "freedom" smells like in this century.

 

[resolutory]

I'm not sure if this is what OP was talking about, but I also found a kiwifarms thread that goes into extensive detail about SS and even debunks the erroneous claims in the Tantacrul video. They think that taking down SS would threaten their own forum because the mainstream media attacks these two sites so similarly.

I'm unfamiliar with this website, what's kiwifarms about?

 

[LaVieEnRose]

I'm unfamiliar with this website, what's kiwifarms about?

Apparently it's about organizing targeted harassment campaigns against people. Truly disgusting stuff. SS isn't remotely comparable.

 

[theboy]

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