couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
parents called psychologist or sth and thry decided to get me into a clinic agaist my will

currently at the bathroom
fuck that shit
 
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couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
they are literally standing in front of the bathroom door now

omg
 
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Miss clefable

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Aug 23, 2018
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Hugs omg :(
 
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couldntthinkofaname

couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
i need tipps

they say they csn hod me there for 6 weeks
 
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couldntthinkofaname

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Aug 31, 2018
565
how do i get out there fast
 
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Miss clefable

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Aug 23, 2018
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Or make up stuff
 
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couldntthinkofaname

Mage
Aug 31, 2018
565
i cant

they currwntly call the judge
 
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couldntthinkofaname

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Aug 31, 2018
565
fuck that shit
 
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Miss clefable

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Aug 23, 2018
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Just remain calm and just let them hear what they want to hear
 
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Jon86

Specialist
Apr 9, 2018
369
Not sure on your situation but it seems like you don't have much of a choice. Just do your time, is it really that bad?

Idk, you've had 200 posts in a week, it seems like your probably hysterical right now and out of control, hence your parents are taking action. It's probably the best you listen to your folks and accept help. How old are you?
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
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How old are you? They can't hold you against your will unless you've talked openly about suicide, and even then, then can't hold you for longer than a week, unless you are deemed to be a threat to yourself or to others...
 
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MistakesHappen

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Aug 29, 2018
615
I think there's nothing to do. Unless you want/ manage to escape they have the power to take you there. It's horrible, i know, hold on, be strong. I hope everything goes right.

Edit: yeah, actually 6 weeks it's too much. Why? Are you underage?
 
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Avicii

Avicii

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Sep 4, 2018
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Looks like they succeeded
 
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Cold

Earthbound
Aug 27, 2018
100
Oh dear. Just try to remain calm. I don't think anyone can hold you against your will unless you are an immediate danger to yourself or someone else. I'm sure that depends on where you're from and how old you are though. I hope everything turns out alright for you. :/
 
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Tboy

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Sep 5, 2018
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Tell them what they want to hear. Become a very good liar.

I have spent a lot of time in psych wards due to my depression. Now, doctors are smart but they can only work with what YOU give them. And with some smarts and timing, you can fool them.

If they are indicating it's a long term stay, I'd give it a couple of weeks before you start to show them "signs of improvement". Before that, be brutally honest, give them the story they are expecting to hear. Not your truth, but the truth they are expecting and wanting to hear.

Fool them. You can.

I see a psych twice a week and have been for quite sometime. She knows the depths of my suicidality. But she also believes that I am self aware enough to manage it. Which I am. I've had 6 failed attempts over the last 20 years. I do not intend for there to be a 7th.
 
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GodKnows

GodKnows

What lies ahead
Jun 28, 2018
119
I've spent a week in a psychatric hospital and they've concluded I am not suicidal.
 
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Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
981
I was recently placed in a psych ward against my will. I told the doctor that the noose in my closet was actually for erotic gratification, and that my father was twisting things around. They bought it xD I have a way with words. The doctor didn't like me too much by the time I got out lol
 
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StarDust

StarDust

Mage
Aug 21, 2018
508
Oh man does that suck! How old are you? Just follow the advice of what everyone on here is saying....you can fool them...I did when I got stuck in there.
 
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Avicii

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Sep 4, 2018
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Tell them what they want to hear. Become a very good liar.

I have spent a lot of time in psych wards due to my depression. Now, doctors are smart but they can only work with what YOU give them. And with some smarts and timing, you can fool them.

If they are indicating it's a long term stay, I'd give it a couple of weeks before you start to show them "signs of improvement". Before that, be brutally honest, give them the story they are expecting to hear. Not your truth, but the truth they are expecting and wanting to hear.

Fool them. You can.

I see a psych twice a week and have been for quite sometime. She knows the depths of my suicidality. But she also believes that I am self aware enough to manage it. Which I am. I've had 6 failed attempts over the last 20 years. I do not intend for there to be a 7th.
Jeez 6 failed attempts !!!
 
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Tboy

Member
Sep 5, 2018
10
Jeez 6 failed attempts !!!
Yeah, learning as I go along ha.

The resources out there now such as the pph and what's online now weren't always as readily available.
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

Hell0
Aug 5, 2018
1,446
how do i get out there fast

Pretend that you are on a way of being a better more happy person. Gradually get better. Fake smile etc... After a couple of days say you want to get out early. Slowly try to convince your parents. Fake everything. Be fake happy. But not everything at first. It has to be a slow process otherwise they'll know your intent.If you're over 18 they can't hold you for more than 3 days except if they have an court order.
 
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throwaway123

throwaway123

Hell0
Aug 5, 2018
1,446
Not sure on your situation but it seems like you don't have much of a choice. Just do your time, is it really that bad?

Idk, you've had 200 posts in a week, it seems like your probably hysterical right now and out of control, hence your parents are taking action. It's probably the best you listen to your folks and accept help. How old are you?


Seems like we got another pro-lifer.
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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981
yeah........WTF is with all the pro-lifers?? Get off our site!!!
 
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Susannah

Susannah

Mage
Jul 2, 2018
530
Oh dear. Just try to remain calm. I don't think anyone can hold you against your will unless you are an immediate danger to yourself or someone else. I'm sure that depends on where you're from and how old you are though. I hope everything turns out alright for you. :/
Of course they can hold you anyway. They have already decided either immediate need for treatment, or danger to yourself (or someone else). My best advice in general is: watch out for all the pills they want you to take. Stay calm, don't talk too much. Learn the rules! Your fellow patients might tip you on the unwritten rules. If possible, listen to music (headphones).
 
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Dani Paradox

Dani Paradox

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Aug 17, 2018
981
You have the right to refuse medication. In order to force you they need substantial evidence that you are a threat to yourself or others, and they would have to take you to court. Also, they cannot hold you against you will unless you are deemed a threat. They can only hold you for around a week or so, which is when insurance typically runs out. The only way they can hold you longer is if they make you take medication.....which you can refuse.
 
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J.D.

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Sep 6, 2018
29
You need to use the Jane doe and/or John doe honourable names that they give out in hospitals.

The police, courts and hospital staff took an oath thats says they will defend protect and keep safe all honourable members/ names at all costs.

If you use these names they're not allowed to section you/ put you in a psychiatric institution and drug you because the drugs are toxic and harmful which they are fully aware of and that would violate their oath if they poison you with them.

I've been sectioned once in the UK and then i found out about and starting using the jane doe and john doe names and they can't section me now.
So i'm telling you this for a fact because i've done it.

Some examples of the Jane doe and John doe names.

Jane doe - 245
John doe - 893
Jane doe - 426
John doe - 746

You can put any number after the dash.

There's an infinite amount of these names you can use.

This only works though if the police haven't already grabbed you and put you in a psychiatric institution.

Obviously if they haven't grabbed you, you need to tell them that you're not suicidal and or self harming.

You use one of these though and they are forced by their oath to listen to you, and they cannot ignore what you're saying.

If you are already in one of these places don't bother trying to use the jane doe or john doe names because they will just try to convince you that you're nuts and they'll just drug you more.

There is one way you can get out though if they've already grabbed you.

Do a tribunal or what ever they call it where you are and use one of the free lawyers if they do that where you are.

The lawyers and judges have also taken the oath to keep all honourable jane doe and john doe names defended, protected and safe at all costs.

You use one of these honourable names in a tribunal or what ever they call it where ever you are. and the lawyer and judge will get you out of there ASAP!!!!!

They will NOT allow an honourable member to be poisoned and harmed and potentially killed with those drugs they use.

You cannot tell the rest of the staff about what you're going to do if you're going to use a jane doe or john doe name in tribunal to get out, like i said, they'll try and convince you that you're crazy.

And when you do the tribunal, before hand you need to write which ever jane doe or john doe name you choose to use ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND give the paper to the judge YOURSELF!

Don't let anyone else touch the piece of paper.

You need to make absolutely sure that the judge is aware that you choose to use and act as an honourable name.

And before anyone tries to accuse me of being a "pro- lifer"..............i'm not.

I'm about pro choice.

You have the right to live you life how ever you see fit and you can choose to end your life if you so choose too.

Obviously the reason why us lot on here are suicidal in the first place is because of feeling out of control of our lives which is why we want to leave.

And don't try and accuse me of trying to sell you anything because i'm not doing that either, this information is given freely.

I'm giving you this information so you have the choice to do what you want with your lives without other people trying to control you/ us.

I'm giving you all this information because i'm really really fucking nice and i love you all that much.

Heres some more information about the jane doe and john doe names.

https://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/kates-writings/

also the real law is actually natural law, which is about morals and ethics, empathy and compassion and loving one another.
and the legal system is actually fictional and imaginary.
The fictional legal system is actually just a religion.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=n...AUICygC&biw=1304&bih=671#imgrc=4W8D0XYJrK45GM:


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=n...AUICygC&biw=1304&bih=671#imgrc=TNfoV4cU19D1RM:


but yeah, with in the legal system using the jane doe and john doe honourable names they are forced by their blood oath too keep anyone who uses these names safe and free from harm and death at all costs.

If they violate their oath they can actually be put in prison for life for doing that.

Peace
 
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Susannah

Susannah

Mage
Jul 2, 2018
530
I'm sorry, but after reading this
You need to use the Jane doe and/or John doe honourable names that they give out in hospitals.

The police, courts and hospital staff took an oath thats says they will defend protect and keep safe all honourable members/ names at all costs.

If you use these names they're not allowed to section you/ put you in a psychiatric institution and drug you because the drugs are toxic and harmful which they are fully aware of and that would violate their oath if they poison you with them.

I've been sectioned once in the UK and then i found out about and starting using the jane doe and john doe names and they can't section me now.
So i'm telling you this for a fact because i've done it.

Some examples of the Jane doe and John doe names.

Jane doe - 245
John doe - 893
Jane doe - 426
John doe - 746

You can put any number after the dash.

There's an infinite amount of these names you can use.

This only works though if the police haven't already grabbed you and put you in a psychiatric institution.

Obviously if they haven't grabbed you, you need to tell them that you're not suicidal and or self harming.

You use one of these though and they are forced by their oath to listen to you, and they cannot ignore what you're saying.

If you are already in one of these places don't bother trying to use the jane doe or john doe names because they will just try to convince you that you're nuts and they'll just drug you more.

There is one way you can get out though if they've already grabbed you.

Do a tribunal or what ever they call it where you are and use one of the free lawyers if they do that where you are.

The lawyers and judges have also taken the oath to keep all honourable jane doe and john doe names defended, protected and safe at all costs.

You use one of these honourable names in a tribunal or what ever they call it where ever you are. and the lawyer and judge will get you out of there ASAP!!!!!

They will NOT allow an honourable member to be poisoned and harmed and potentially killed with those drugs they use.

You cannot tell the rest of the staff about what you're going to do if you're going to use a jane doe or john doe name in tribunal to get out, like i said, they'll try and convince you that you're crazy.

And when you do the tribunal, before hand you need to write which ever jane doe or john doe name you choose to use ON A PIECE OF PAPER AND give the paper to the judge YOURSELF!

Don't let anyone else touch the piece of paper.

You need to make absolutely sure that the judge is aware that you choose to use and act as an honourable name.

And before anyone tries to accuse me of being a "pro- lifer"..............i'm not.

I'm about pro choice.

You have the right to live you life how ever you see fit and you can choose to end your life if you so choose too.

Obviously the reason why us lot on here are suicidal in the first place is because of feeling out of control of our lives which is why we want to leave.

And don't try and accuse me of trying to sell you anything because i'm not doing that either, this information is given freely.

I'm giving you this information so you have the choice to do what you want with your lives without other people trying to control you/ us.

I'm giving you all this information because i'm really really fucking nice and i love you all that much.

Heres some more information about the jane doe and john doe names.

https://kateofgaia.wordpress.com/kates-writings/

also the real law is actually natural law, which is about morals and ethics, empathy and compassion and loving one another.
and the legal system is actually fictional and imaginary.
The fictional legal system is actually just a religion.


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=n...AUICygC&biw=1304&bih=671#imgrc=4W8D0XYJrK45GM:


https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=n...AUICygC&biw=1304&bih=671#imgrc=TNfoV4cU19D1RM:


but yeah, with in the legal system using the jane doe and john doe honourable names they are forced by their blood oath too keep anyone who uses these names safe and free from harm and death at all costs.

If they violate their oath they can actually be put in prison for life for doing that.

Peace
Sorry, I don't understand if you're referrering to the law or practice? I am from Norway, and in psyciatric matters, we don't have a chance in court, no rights, no lawers. Nothing, just the psyciatric staff, and they are almighty in "health matters". Maybe Norway is totally different from other countries? Really don't know, so very curious how force mental health care is practiced in other parts of the world....
 

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