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For me personally, death does not scare me as much as the unknown that follows proceeding death. Any number of things could be true, and all of the plausible outcomes seem unpreferable in their own ways from where I stand. Our births and the conscious entities we were forced to inhabit are inexplicably complicated, so to write life as a one-off doesn't sit right with me.

Reincarnation, permanent cessation, and a possible God entity are all terrifying to me in their own ways. I'll go down the list and the reasons on why they unsettle me so much next. Bear in mind these are all just my opinions, and this is purely speculation on my part.

A: Reincarnation.

If reincarnation is true, which I personally find to be one of the more plausible explanations, then insignificance is the least of your concerns. Rerolling as an even worse, even more intolerable lifeform is not only possible, but very plausible given enough time. You will have to restart from 0 and suffer through all of life's painful "lessons" again and again, and that's assuming you're even reincarnated as something resembling human. You may be reincarnated as a chicken, only to live your entire life in a 2x2 cage. What scares me is that this might be one of the tamer existences in an infinite timeline.

B: Permanent Cessation.

This is probably one of the more preferable outcomes, a "lesser evil." But even this is flawed in its own implications. Nothing anyone does here not only doesn't matter, but all the Hitlers and all the Pol Pots of the world will meet the exact same fate as the child who just starved to death in Africa. Something about this just doesn't sit right with me... but maybe that's just me. Justice is essentially a farce in either outcome, although at least this one gives some form of final closure I suppose.

C: God entity.

This is one of the more terrifying theories to me. Whatever it is, if it exists, I have serious doubts about its integrity. It is either incapable of or it simply chooses not to give a single damn about our suffering. I think if such an entity exists, we are either unintentional byproducts of its creation, or we are its toys designed specifically to disract it from its own hellish cage.

Of course, there are other possible motives to this theoretical God, and I think the more purely malevolent ones can be ruled out. If it was purely fed on our suffering, then why not create all entities for the simple reason of experiencing the utmost possible pain 24/7? That goes both ways however, ruling out benevolence, at the very least on the surface.

What I find more plausible, and what unsettles me about this so-called "God" is that if we "return" to this source after death, then we may just be trading whatever entrapment we experience here for another form. I think it's not entirely incoherent to muse that it too may have been forced into existence against its own will. We may be byproducts of its consciousness experiencing itself.

In the end, nobody can truly say what existence is nor what death entails. These are simply my own inferences about the possible outcomes, and rather pessimistic ones at that. It's not that my existentialism outweighs survival instinct entirely, but it certainly does make me pause at the sheer scale of possibilities. I'm not implying that my fears should ouweigh ones desire for death either, only that they make treating it casually feel dishonest for me personally.

I'd love to hear it from y'all: How do you personally reconcile with death's uncertainty?
 
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There better be an after life after suffering through all this shit I swear i'm throwing hands with everyone and everything up there.
 
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There better be an after life after suffering through all this shit I swear i'm throwing hands with everyone and everything up there.
One can hope. One can hope. Whatever the case, I don't think worrying does that much good in the end, and whatever happens, happens. It can just be hard to endure the not-knowing part sometimes...
 
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The dying process still scares me more than what comes after to be honest but then, true- the uncertainty of it is also very troubling.

There being nothing more after this seems like the best outcome to me. That's my hope. Because I don't trust the creator of this world (if there is one) to be a fair or moral being. By human standards of course but then- it's human standards we're forced to live with.

Being nothing one day I find more weird than frightening though. I don't remember it being frightening before I was born. I imagine it will be like that.

An afterlife is going to be waiting no matter what it seems so- waiting for natural death is only kicking the can further down the road. I suspect God already hates me. I doubt my suicide would make too much difference now.

The dying process though- I suppose I have some control over. I get the sense whatever happens, it has real potential to be bad. I just hope like mad that a suicide will save me more pain in the long run.
 
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The dying process still scares me more than what comes after to be honest but then, true- the uncertainty of it is also very troubling.
Understandable.
There being nothing more after this seems like the best outcome to me. That's my hope. Because I don't trust the creator of this world (if there is one) to be a fair or moral being. By human standards of course but then- it's human standards we're forced to live with.
I personally disagree that there being nothing more after this is truly the best outcome. A benevolent God, or at the least an understanding one which gives us full autonomy (and perhaps some form of moral non-eternal reckoning) seems like a comparatively preferable outcome to me. I can see why you arrived at cessation however, and that too is okay-ish in the end I suppose. One can hope, but hope ≠ evidence. Nor does despair necessarily.
Being nothing one day I find more weird than frightening though. I don't remember it being frightening before I was born. I imagine it will be like that.
That's one of those things I never understood when people said it... lack of evidence does not correlate with evidence of absence. But I understand.
An afterlife is going to be waiting no matter what it seems so- waiting for natural death is only kicking the can further down the road. I suspect God already hates me. I doubt my suicide would make too much difference now.
Yeah... I thought God hated me for a long time too. Some people really do just get a raw deal. Although I suspect we're simply the result of bad RNG, more-so than targeted by a purely malevolent entity. But that's not to say it's entirely discountable either way. Just that the evidence I've seen, while brutal, does not necessarily correlate with pure malevolence. Just if it's any comfort.
The dying process though- I suppose I have some control over. I get the sense whatever happens, it has real potential to be bad. I just hope like mad that a suicide will save me more pain in the long run.
You and me both. The whole reason I made this post was to voice my existential anxt. Humanity really did deserve better. Conscious entities as a whole deserved better.

On a more off-note, while I understand why some people are drawn to right-to-die philosophy, I don't see it as a blanket moral endorsement, nor something that can be generalized. Just wanted to clarify. In any event, I hope you can find peace whether t's in this one or the next. All the best.
 
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I don't have any fear of what comes after.

I find the mystery of it quite fascinating, but at the same time I have no desire to speculate or believe in some invented explanation in order to make myself feel better.

I really dislike that way of thinking in society, where in the absence of good evidence… many people just decide (consciously or unconsciously) to believe in made up stories/theories.

It's one thing to entertain something as an idea/possibility. But unfortunately, most people are searching for the comfort of certainty, so they make that disastrous leap into the realm of "belief" in something. Sadly, this seems to be a big psychological weakness for many people.

It is what it is, a big mystery. I've accepted that and made my peace with it. We can't avoid facing it anyway, and I've seen no good evidence that what we do (or don't do) in this life, has any bearing on the outcome.

I do try to be a good person. But that just feels like the logical and ethical way to behave. Why make this life harder for any being struggling here than it already is? It doesn't require a huge commitment to just not be a horrible/evil person. People who are needlessly cruel or malevolent, really do get to me.

Unfortunately, there are quite a lot of these people in society… which is why I'm not sad to be leaving.
 
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I thought you might like this video, it seems fit the thread.

 
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I don't have any fear of what comes after.

I find the mystery of it quite fascinating, but at the same time I have no desire to speculate or believe in some invented explanation in order to make myself feel better.
Understandable... I'm a little envious of your no fucks given foothold over the subject to be honest. I wish I could just not have to think about this shit.
I really dislike that way of thinking in society, where in the absence of good evidence… many people just decide (consciously or unconsciously) to believe in made up stories/theories.

It's one thing to entertain something as an idea/possibility. But unfortunately, most people are searching for the comfort of certainty, so they make that disastrous leap into the realm of "belief" in something. Sadly, this seems to be a big psychological weakness for many people.
I agree quite frankly, although I guess I can see where they're coming from too. Void scary. Comfort good. Not everyone is wired to sit in that discomfort, and that's not exactly a moral failure I don't think. It is a soothing narrative people tell themselves to cope with a brutally unfair reality. Maybe the world would be a better place if we didn't pretend any of this shit was just the way it's supposed to be.
It is what it is, a big mystery. I've accepted that and made my peace with it. We can't avoid facing it anyway, and I've seen no good evidence that what we do (or don't do) in this life, has any bearing on the outcome.
I'm just trying to reason with an unfefinable equation to comfort myself from my own mortality.
I do try to be a good person. But that just feels like the logical and ethical way to behave. Why make this life harder for any being struggling here than it already is? It doesn't require a huge commitment to just not be a horrible/evil person. People who are needlessly cruel or malevolent, really do get to me.

Unfortunately, there are quite a lot of these people in society… which is why I'm not sad to be leaving.
I'd like to think I'm rather adverse to cruelty myself. That's partially the reason I wish for there to be some kind of God to punish the bastards (but not eternally) in the end. Even if it is probably far fetched given the evidence. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst I guess. Thanks for the reply. Peace.
I thought you might like this video, it seems fit the thread.


Pretty interesting video so far (i'm about halfway, I'll finish tomorrow.) I disagree with him on a few premises, but mostly just on preferences. Nevertheless a pretty thought provoking subject. Thanks!
 
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I thought you might like this video, it seems fit the thread.



Starts off well. Plenty of logic... but then it just devolves into more of the mess I'm referring to. Talking in absolutes and certainty about very abstract unproven theories... "It must be this... it has to be that..." etc etc. It seems even many people capable of accurately analysing the brutal reality of what we're experiencing here, are still inclined towards this train of thought. It's not that anyone would go down these rabbit holes that bothers me... it's the desperate need to draw concrete conclusions, based on very poor or non existent evidence. It's usually highly subjective experiences, as he mentions in the video. And I think quite a lot of confirmation bias going on too. Which is essentially no different to the scam that organised religions have been engaged in for centuries.
 
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I just hope we cease to exist forever. 💚
No more this suffering, struggling and empty awkward ugly life.
 
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Starts off well. Plenty of logic... but then it just devolves into more of the mess I'm referring to. Talking in absolutes and certainty about very abstract unproven theories... "It must be this... it has to be that..." etc etc. It seems even many people capable of accurately analysing the brutal reality of what we're experiencing here, are still inclined towards this train of thought. It's not that anyone would go down these rabbit holes that bothers me... it's the desperate need to draw concrete conclusions, based on very poor or non existent evidence. It's usually highly subjective experiences, as he mentions in the video. And I think quite a lot of confirmation bias going on too. Which is essentially no different to the scam that organised religions have been engaged in for centuries.
Yeah, finished watching it and I agree 100%. Man really went off the chain not long after the half way mark. What bothered me most was just how confidently he portrayed his claims as infallible. Humans are pattern seeking machines. It's easy to see "evidence" where there's only coincidence, I've experienced this phenomenon myself to a degree. Self-reinforcing bias.
 
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