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Julgran

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Dec 15, 2021
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Ha ha! The comment in that article says it all :wink:

The article was probably written by a pro-lockdowner who didn't want the real suicide numbers during the pandemic to be shown to the public.
 
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19andOverdue

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Jun 12, 2022
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This article is actually quite bizarre. Because on one hand they admit that mental health has plummeted. But evidence does indeed show that suicides didn't correlate to the increase in suffering. I guess I have to infer that maybe people are more strong willed and hopeful than we thought
 
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whatevs

Mining for copium in the weirdest places.
Jan 15, 2022
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This article is actually quite bizarre. Because on one hand they admit that mental health has plummeted. But evidence does indeed show that suicides didn't correlate to the increase in suffering. I guess I have to infer that maybe people are more strong willed and hopeful than we thought
Going off the 5-10% of conspiracy theorist or 'antivaxxer' people on SaSu (when we are lower in the population in general) I'd say the fake pandemic and police state have indeed pushed some people to suicide or feeling suicidal.
 
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Shu

As above, So Below.
Jan 21, 2022
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Going off the 5-10% of conspiracy theorist or 'antivaxxer' people on SaSu (when we are lower in the population in general) I'd say the fake pandemic and police state have indeed pushed some people to suicide or feeling suicidal.
I honestly don't think that they're telling the truth about stats either that or I have become more aware of how many people are suicidal now that I am and I wasn't focused much on it before.
 
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Pluto

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Dec 27, 2020
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There's an incentive to cover up suicide statistics to prevent copycat incidents, and yet difficult times can put people into 'survival mode' which enables them to tolerate insufferable conditions better than normal.
 
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whatevs

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I honestly don't think that they're telling the truth about stats either that or I have become more aware of how many people are suicidal now that I am and I wasn't focused much on it before.
I actually know a guy that blew his head off during lockdown because of political reasons. He wanted to recruit my father for a revolutionary attack, he had (illegal) guns. My father refused and apparently all his other fascist/neo-nazi friends did too so he felt cornered and alone.

I talked with him some years ago and he agreed with my conspiracy theorist views so I know for a fact he knew what the lockdown and forced masking were about, which wasn't protecting the health of anyone as they laughably claimed.

His suicide actually affected me enough to cry as I saw parts on me in him. That guy let me shoot with a gigantic revolver that almost flew from my hands when I was a teenager, I'll never forget that feeling.
There's an incentive to cover up suicide statistics to prevent copycat incidents, and yet difficult times can put people into 'survival mode' which enables them to tolerate insufferable conditions better than normal.
The bottom line is that we can't trust studies, stats or academia anymore when it comes to things that are politically loaded, like transforming society to a police state being justified by a relatively weak disease or not. Academia will always tend to side with the establishment. They are basically a priest class that anoints and justifies the behavior of the executive branch or of the enforcers, like they did with Monarchs "being chosen by God" during medieval times in Europe.

They are not independent, but paid for the plutocracy and dependent on being on good terms with the government and mass media to keep flourishing. The whole system is transparently corrupt, as it is thoroughly interconnected so if one part is lying the deceit will be communicated and implemented from top to bottom and from peer to peer. If you admit the media is lying/work for money and do as they are told you have to admit that the government is lying/doing as they are told for money and if the government is lying/doing as they are told without questioning so are the scientists and so on.
 
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Alex6216

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Apr 19, 2022
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I believe it's a myth. Sure maybe suicides increased a tiny bit because of their business closing down but I doubt 'isolation' led people to kill themselves. It wasnt even that bad since you still were able to voice-chat with friends and come to each others house, not like the police will know if you dont say anything.
 
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rationaltake

I'm rocking it - in another universe
Sep 28, 2021
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My neighbours totally ignored the lock down. Just like the Prime Minister and various MPs did.
 
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Trezzohno

Trezzohno

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May 9, 2022
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The article is from 'New York Post'? Yup credibility out the window
 
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depressedexwriter

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Mar 16, 2022
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I believe it's a myth. Sure maybe suicides increased a tiny bit because of their business closing down but I doubt 'isolation' led people to kill themselves. It wasnt even that bad since you still were able to voice-chat with friends and come to each others house, not like the police will know if you dont say anything.

For you, it wasn't so bad. I'm happy that it was the case for you. It wasn't the case for everybody.

For me, I went from socializing regularly and having a job I liked to drinking like crazy and being miserable and wanting to die all the time. Voice-chatting isn't even remotely close to the complexity and depth of the shit they took from us.

This article is like 'Don't worry! People are miserable and hostile and afraid but they're still paying their exorbitant rents! We got away with the crime of the millenium!' and damn you for going along with it.
 
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flint

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Sep 16, 2022
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Data is sketch. Suicide attempts have increased during the pandemic globally. And not all people have their deaths even acknowledged as such because of stigma. I have low spoons, but if you search around a bit the information is there. People are either killing themselves from the added pains of isolation or like me and preparing because of the daily reminder that no one cares about people who are suffering. People can't even bother to distribute n95s, such a bare minimum thing. Everyone I know has gotten covid most poor black and brown people because of either being forced to work in places with 0 covid mitigations or because theyre hurting so desperately they're pretending the pandemic over and not caring how many times they catch it or who they spread it to. covid reminds me every day why i wanna escape it here. its a constant trigger and unless someone miraculously decides oh maybe we should stop being so reckless and act like vaccines are sufficient i dont see anything changing. and the memory will always be there. and i get it. ive been desperate too. ive done fucked up shit too. i just dont need the added guilt for moments of distraction knowing its a communicable disease and you cant individual responsibility your way out of causing harm to others. and its not even kust covid thats like this. this is just one if millions of examples of how the society we live in is intended to exploit snd harm.
 
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Mofreeko

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Apr 7, 2019
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They probably marked them down as covid deaths.
 
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