Taking N

[lanahelp]

Seems absurd. Fought and fought against Lyme disease. Can't keep doing it. Have N. Working to get back to FL and take it. Few ?s:

—seems ridiculous. How do I open the bottle?

-one bottle or two?

-how long before taking so o tsk antimetic?

-better to do in hotel or parents' empty home?

-how long until it works and i finally have peace?

 

[lostmyacc]

Here is a video on how to open the bottle.

1 or two will work fine. Finances dictate that I can only afford one bottle.

Take a stat dose of AE 1 hour before.

Empty home would be my preference but i would leave least 24 hours before you're found.

You will be asleep in 5-10 mins (quicker if you drink liquor afterwards)

Once you fall asleep you will be in a coma, you will die usually within the hour. Once you are asleep you will feel no pain, nor wakeup again. Prior to falling asleep you might feel a little dizzie (anecdotal evidence) but no pain nothing uncomfortable.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

I can afford 2 but if 1 is enough I see no point in buying 2.

 

[hush hush]

I can afford 2 but if 1 is enough I see no point in buying 2.

Dignitas uses 10-15 gr of pentobarbital, as one bottle can cause a much slower death than two bottles.

 

[Ta555]

Dignitas uses 10-15 gr of pentobarbital, as one bottle can cause a much slower death than two bottles.

Dignitas do not use bottles of veterinary N. Define 'much slower'.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

From the videos I've seen in euthanasia clinics, the people who drink N have a small cup to drink. However, those drinking N from D have to drink more liquid. So the N he has is different(weaker).

 

[Ta555]

From the videos I've seen in euthanasia clinics, the people who drink N have a small cup to drink. However, those drinking N from D have to drink more liquid. So the N he has is different(weaker).

No. That's not how it works. Just because something comes in more liquid doesn't make it weaker. 10g of N dissolved in half a cup of water is still 10g of N dissolved in a litre of water. Please stop spreading misinformation and read a bit more.
At the clinics they use powdered N, usually 10-15g. The veterinary N that D supplies IS THE SAME N. It is NOT weaker. There is 6.2g of N per bottle. If you want a 10g dose like Dignitas uses you'll need to drink just over one and a half bottles. It is not in any way weaker.

 

[Seeking_Peace]

No. That's not how it works. Just because something comes in more liquid doesn't make it weaker. 10g of N dissolved in half a cup of water is still 10g of N dissolved in a litre of water. Please stop spreading misinformation and read a bit more.
At the clinics they use powdered N, usually 10-15g. The veterinary N that D supplies IS THE SAME N. It is NOT weaker. There is 6.2g of N per bottle. If you want a 10g dose like Dignitas uses you'll need to drink just over one and a half bottles. It is not in any way weaker.

They don't use vet N. I've asked this question and multiple users have told me vet N and human N are not the same. Check your facts.

 

[Ta555]

They don't use vet N. I've asked this question and multiple users have told me vet N and human N are not the same. Check your facts.

Sorry newbie but I know a lot more about N than you do. You do realise that it's all the same pentobarbital right? It's just that Dignitas uses the powder form and vet N is injectible liquid. Check your facts. Smh. N is N. Just different preparations.

 

[pthnrdnojvsc]

Dignitas uses 10-15 gr of pentobarbital, as one bottle can cause a much slower death than two bottles.

Brochure of DIGNITAS

Dignitas is currently usually using 15 grams of pentobarbital. That would be more than 2 bottles. They used less than 15 before. So the people that actually use it and have seen it in many many test cases over the years thought it better to increase to usually 15 grams. I'd go with Dignitas over theorists on the internet. imo testing is extremely important. It's also ridiculous not to take weight into account. It's obviously the concentration the level of N in the blood in ML/L for example that Causes Death. Someone that weighs 25 kgs more has a lot more blood volume.
From the brochure:

Brochure of DIGNITAS

"The member wishing to have an accompanied suicide determines the course of action to suit him- or herself. The escorts / helpers of the DIGNITAS team will ensure the correct technical procedure.

After taking an anti-emetic, the member may ingest a fatal dose of Sodium Pentobarbital (NaP), usually 15 grams. This is normally administered in a glass of water, approximately one decilitre.

Pentobarbital of Sodium – also called Sodium Pentobarbital or Natrium-Pentobarbital (NaP) – is an approved sleeping and narcosis drug. As it is alkaline and does not taste pleasant, something sugary may be drunk or eaten immediately afterwards."

 

[Tortured Existence]

I can afford 2 but if 1 is enough I see no point in buying 2.

6.2 grams is not used for an overdose anywhere, and PN says 10 grams. It's recommended to drink 2 full bottles; weight could be a factor, but that's just my speculation.

Dignitas videos show those who are given the N need to drink it all down within 30-90 seconds. The quicker the better, because one could fall asleep before taking enough to die. I think it's happened to at least one person on this page, or I could've seen it elsewhere.

 

[Ta555]

6.2 grams is not used for an overdose anywhere, and PN says 10 grams. It's recommended to drink 2 full bottles; weight could be a factor, but that's just my speculation.

Dignitas videos show those who are given the N need to drink it all down within 30-90 seconds. The quicker the better, because one could fall asleep before taking enough to die. I think it's happened to at least one person on this page, or I could've seen it elsewhere.

I have read the PPeH and nowhere does it say 10g. It talks about drinking a bottle. One. Singular.
It is indeed recommended to drink two bottles by many people but the PPeH actually says that one bottle is just fine. The minimum lethal dose for an average person is 3g.
I really wish all these newbies didn't go spouting so much 'information' and 'facts'.
People reading this. Check the member's join date before you take their word for anything and for the love of God, read the PPeH yourselves.
For what it's worth, a person very dear to me on this site went out with one bottle six weeks ago.

 

[hush hush]

I have read the PPeH and nowhere does it say 10g. It talks about drinking a bottle. One. Singular.
It is indeed recommended to drink two bottles by many people but the PPeH actually says that one bottle is just fine. The minimum lethal dose for an average person is 3g.
I really wish all these newbies didn't go spouting so much 'information' and 'facts'.
People reading this. Check the member's join date before you take their word for anything and for the love of God, read the PPeH yourselves.
For what it's worth, a person very dear to me on this site went out with one bottle six weeks ago.

Yes, but death with one bottle can take up to 24 hours, so it is much slower. The best choice is two bottles from D. Personally, were I to use N, I would use at least 2 bottles for a comfortable and guaranteed death.

 

[Ta555]

Yes, but death with one bottle can take up to 24 hours, so it is much slower. The best choice is two bottles from D. Personally, were I to use N, I would use at least 2 bottles for a comfortable and guaranteed death.

It CAN take up to 24 hours and if you read the PPeH it says it is very rare that that happens. Is it better to drink two bottles? Sure, but I'm sick of all this scare mongering of one bottle not doing the job when we have no evidence for that. And the people who took up to 24 hours have alcohol or psychiatric drug histories.
If one bottle was really not enough the PPeH would have made that clear and strongly encouraged to use two. But nowhere does it say that.
As I have stated before, 3g is the minimum lethal dose for the average person..we have also had at least two people go out with one bottle.
People. STOP scaremongering about one bottle!! Honestly!!
And anyway, if anyone is so worried about N not working, just tie a large plastic bag around your neck after you take it. That way you'll die even if the N just makes you sleep. Because you ain't waking up from an N nap.

 

[Hercules]

One bottle of N is enough to kill someone. No one has survived taking 6g of N without immediate medical intervention. The following data comes from euthanasia clinics. It doesn't take 24 hours to die from N. This is misinformation.

In these case studies from euthanasia clinics, 9 g of N were given to people. In the first study from the Netherlands, 122 cases, 82 percent died in 1 hour and 90 percent died in 2 hours.

In Switzerland, 748 cases were studied. 88 percent died in 1 hour and 92 percent died within 2 hours. Only 1/2 percent took 24 hours. They were special cases that don't apply to most people.

All but 21 people took metro. No one who took the metro vomited. Only 2 out of the 21 people who didn't take an AE vomited. The 2 who vomited still died.

 

[Tortured Existence]

I have read the PPeH and nowhere does it say 10g. It talks about drinking a bottle. One. Singular.
It is indeed recommended to drink two bottles by many people but the PPeH actually says that one bottle is just fine. The minimum lethal dose for an average person is 3g.
I really wish all these newbies didn't go spouting so much 'information' and 'facts'.
People reading this. Check the member's join date before you take their word for anything and for the love of God, read the PPeH yourselves.
For what it's worth, a person very dear to me on this site went out with one bottle six weeks ago.

"You will die provided you have more than 10 grams." That's a direct quote from what was a live recording about N by PN. I'm a long-time member, and just watched that part again.

Dignitas wouldn't be using 15 grams if less than half of that was an overdose for everybody.

You are so incredibly rude to everybody you disagree with on this page. Why don't you lose the know-it-all attitude. You obviously need to demean people who are already suffering to feel good about yourself.

 

[Ta555]

"You will die provided you have more than 10 grams." That's a direct quote from what was a live recording about N by PN. I'm a long-time member, and just watched that part again.

Dignitas wouldn't be using 15 grams if less than half of that was an overdose for everybody.

You are so incredibly rude to everybody you disagree with on this page. Why don't you lose the know-it-all attitude. You obviously need to demean people who are already suffering to feel good about yourself.

Oh please. I need to demean people? No. I just don't like seeing misinformation and scare mongering being spread around. And you have no fucking idea about my own suffering so stop acting all holier than thou.

You should've given your source right from the start. I am not a member of Exit so obviously haven't watched the video. However, I'm intrigued that 10g is never mentioned in Nietschke's PPeH. Without a doubt you'll die with more than 10g. But that doesn't mean less will not work which is what you seem to be implying.
There's been an influx of people in the last couple of months who have barely joined and then start giving everyone advice about something they barely know about and I'm sick and tired of it and very wary. I do not need to demean people to feel better about myself but I no longer tolerate BS and bad information.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Is metaclopramide antiemetic still being recommended as a n prelim? I have read that it is no longer recommended because of the possible risk of an attack which causes involuntary uncontrolable body motions which could make the completion of the procedure impossible, but i really do not know.

 

[Hopeless_brat]

Seems absurd. Fought and fought against Lyme disease. Can't keep doing it. Have N. Working to get back to FL and take it. Few ?s:

—seems ridiculous. How do I open the bottle?

-one bottle or two?

-how long before taking so o tsk antimetic?

-better to do in hotel or parents' empty home?

-how long until it works and i finally have peace?

Where did you get N from

 

[Hercules]

Is metaclopramide antiemetic still being recommended as a n prelim? I have read that it is no longer recommended because of the possible risk of an attack which causes involuntary uncontrolable body motions which could make the completion of the procedure impossible, but i really do not know.

Metro is still recommended as the first choice. It speeds up the gastric emptying of your stomach.
You can't get TK from taking metro once. It is a very rare side effect for people that are taking it long term. Only 2 percent of people get this side effect after long term use.

 

[Tortured Existence]

Oh please. I need to demean people? No. I just don't like seeing misinformation and scare mongering being spread around. And you have no fucking idea about my own suffering so stop acting all holier than thou.

Oh please. I need to demean people? No. I just don't like seeing misinformation and scare mongering being spread around. And you have no fucking idea about my own suffering so stop acting all holier than thou.

Just STOP with the projection and verbal abuse. PLEASE! Our communication is done. I wish you the best.

 

[Interloper]

"You will die provided you have more than 10 grams." That's a direct quote from what was a live recording about N by PN. I'm a long-time member, and just watched that part again.

Do you have a link to this recording? Or if this is locked behind the subscription, could you perhaps record it with something (e.g. OBS) and share it here?

Dignitas wouldn't be using 15 grams if less than half of that was an overdose for everybody.

Isn't that just to speed things up? And to rule out any potential outliers. Surely 6.3g should be plenty for people who are below average weight/height?

 

[Tortured Existence]

Do you have a link to this recording? Or if this is locked behind the subscription, could you perhaps record it with something (e.g. OBS) and share it here?


Isn't that just to speed things up? And to rule out any potential outliers. Surely 6.3g should be plenty for people who are below average weight/height?

I'm afraid it's locked behind the subscription and I couldn't be less tech savvy.

As far as your second question, I have no idea. What I quoted is all that he said about the dosage. I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful.

What @Hercules and @pphelpme posted above are really the most informative posts I've seen in the public part of this forum on the subject.

 

[lifeisbutadream]

Metro is still recommended as the first choice. It speeds up the gastric emptying of your stomach.
You can't get TK from taking metro once. It is a very rare side effect for people that are taking it long term. Only 2 percent of people get this side effect after long term use.

Thank you very much. Do you know what the latest dosage rec. is for met. and how long before?

 

[Hercules]

Thank you very much. Do you know what the latest dosage rec. is for met. and how long before?

You can either do a stat dose of 30 mg 1 hour before or you can take 1 10 mg pill every 8 hours for 48 hours before.

 

[19860418]

I can afford 2 but if 1 is enough I see no point in buying 2.

How do you get the bottles? Sorry, I'm a bit new here.

 

[lanahelp]

From the videos I've seen in euthanasia clinics, the people who drink N have a small cup to drink. However, those drinking N from D have to drink more liquid. So the N he has is different(weaker).

I have 1 bottles from D. Drink them both?

 

[Seeking_Peace]

1 bottle should be enough but if you're on the heavier side then I'd drink two.

 

[Advisor321]

There are plenty of examples that one bottle is enough. But there is one rule:

Everyone is different!!!

For those who weight around 60-70kg, and don't have any additions of benzo, opioids or alcohol, no nervous or liver disease one bottle is a certain death.
But there are people who are overweight, have several diseases, are addicts, they organs do not function normally.

That's why two bottles are preferred.
Even for average person, it will relieve the anxiety of failed attempt, for sure, and additional bottle is like a backup in case of voimiting.

 

[peace is good]

请问AE

[媒体=Vimeo]239990150[媒体]
这里有一个关于如何打开瓶子的视频。

一两瓶就可以了，经济状况决定我只能买一瓶。

一小时前服用常规剂量的 AE 。

我喜欢空着的家，但我会在你被发现前 24 小时离开。

5 - 10 分钟后你就会入睡（如果之后喝酒会更快）

一旦你入睡，你将处于昏迷状态，你通常会在一小时内死亡。一旦你睡着了，你就不会感到疼痛，也不会再醒来。入睡前你可能会感到有点头晕（传闻证据），但没有疼痛，没

你好，我刚来不太熟悉，请问AE代表什么