Discussion Suicides in your family

[spanishguy22]

Have you had any suicides in your family history?
My uncle did it with a gun (my preferred method too... two or three years older than what I am now.
My grandma had extreme debilitating depression. She was dead alive just like me now. Her life was horrible. She had to be put in a residence because there was a point she got intestine illness from not going to toilet to do her needs. That's the extent of our depression in this family. I imaginr my uncle was like me to too. Thanks Dad for the shit genes.

 

[Fin]

Yes, my granduncle threw himself from the top floor of a block of flats, but along the staircase (not outside the block). He was a chronic alcoholic and had delirium tremens in that moment. He was a great man, I'm sad I didn't get to meet him...

 

[Divine Trinity]

Have you had any suicides in your family history?
My uncle did it with a gun (my preferred method too... two or three years older than what I am now.
My grandma had extreme debilitating depression. She was dead alive just like me now. Her life was horrible. She had to be put in a residence because there was a point she got intestine illness from not going to toilet to do her needs. That's the extent of our depression in this family. I imaginr my uncle was like me to too. Thanks Dad for the shit genes.

It's likely not genes, but that you grew up in similar environments which leads to similar behavior. Wealth, status, habits, beliefs, etc. are also inherited from parents, not just genes.

And it'd be your grandparent's genes, not your uncle's.

 

[Lost]

My cousin shot himself

 

[Bedlamb]

I was named after my aunt that committed suicide. Now I'm going to. Kind of ironic

 

[spanishguy22]

It's likely not genes, but that you grew up in similar environments which leads to similar behavior. Wealth, status, habits, beliefs, etc. are also inherited from parents, not just genes.

And it'd be your grandparent's genes, not your uncle's.

What? First of all genes are correlated witg depression and that's scientific, and my uncle's genes are shared with my grandparents so idk what you're trying to say

 

[S5E51mbB]

My paternal aunt when I was 5 or 6. Never even knew she existed until that day. My mother claims that it was due to a lack of a supportive structure in her family. Ironic.

 

[Divine Trinity]

What? First of all genes are correlated witg depression and that's scientific, and my uncle's genes are shared with my grandparents so idk what you're trying to say

correlation does not equal causation. People completely discount that stress and such is literally inherited from mother to child from blood and breast milk, there's a reason we're told not to be assholes to pregnant women. There's more to biology and human development than genes, hyper-focusing on it is like staring at a wall of code without knowing its function(s) or values, pointless.

Grandparents are you and your aunt/uncle's common ancestor, your uncle's genes are never transfered to you, therefore are irrelevant. Well ig there's incest or sharing blood, but let's not go there.

 

[Mart]

My father committed suicide when I was 16, he was maybe 45. He hung himself in a small wooden room at his mother's. He was a terrible person and he definitely did it because he didn't want to face the consequences for what he had done.

Also had a great uncle who shot himself after he murdered his wife. I don't remember much about that one besides attending her funeral. I was about 4 or 5 when that happened.

 

[ShadowOfTheDay]

It's likely not genes, but that you grew up in similar environments which leads to similar behavior. Wealth, status, habits, beliefs, etc. are also inherited from parents, not just genes.

And it'd be your grandparent's genes, not your uncle's.

correlation does not equal causation. People completely discount that stress and such is literally inherited from mother to child from blood and breast milk, there's a reason we're told not to be assholes to pregnant women. There's more to biology and human development than genes, hyper-focusing on it is like staring at a wall of code without knowing its function(s) or values, pointless.

Grandparents are you and your aunt/uncle's common ancestor, your uncle's genes are never transfered to you, therefore are irrelevant. Well ig there's incest or sharing blood, but let's not go there.

"It's likely not genes, but that you grew up in similar environments which leads to similar behavior"

Couldn't both of these factors have an impact? Most psychologists agree that genetic history as well as environmental factors are responsible for behavioral traits.

"Correlation does not equal causation."

That's true; but the basis for belief in a genetic predisposition to suicidal behavior is not simply "correlation," but actually decades of scientific research involving twin studies, and adoption studies.

"...your uncle's genes are never transferred to you, therefore are irrelevant."

That's not how genetic heritability works, I'm afraid. You're right, in that extended family's genes are not responsible for your own genome, but they do give a possible indication of the latent/recessive genes present in your own DNA (since you share a common ancestor).

 

[Empty Smile]

My uncle hung himself at his job.

 

[Felicità]

Since I was 6 or 7 my mother always says that she would kill herself by: hanging, jumping out from top floor, hitting her head to the wall or a desk, sleeping, etc.
she never do it, now I'm here.

 

[Dead beat dad]

My grandpoppa stepped in from of a train a few days after we buried my grandmother.
Turning point in my life that, a huge part of me died with my grandparents.
Emotive subject this, peace brothers and sisters.
DBD

 

[littlelungs]

My great-grandpa shot himself in the head. My grandpa (his son, and 10 years old at the time) found him, which obviously really messed him up.

My grandma was severely depressed and drank/drugged herself to death.

My mom has also expressed extensive suicidal ideation for as long as I can remember. A few years ago I found some old suicide notes she had written, back from when I was still a young kid... super depressing stuff.

 

[Marz]

None on either side of my family. I'm the odd one out that is trying to die when my family is charactherized by having a desperately strong survival instinct. It's terribly ironic and it makes me feel even more alienated.

 

[spanishguy22]

None on either side of my family. I'm the odd one out that is trying to die when my family is charactherized by having a desperately strong survival instinct. It's terribly ironic and it makes me feel even more alienated.

Perhaps you went through a lot more shit than them?

 

[Marz]

Perhaps you went through a lot more shit than them?

I mean, mental illness does run in my family but they don't recognize it. Nobody has had a severe case anyways, but my grandma has depression brought on by abuse in her childhood, and my father has anxiety and bouts of depression joined with alcoholism which he got from his dad and I also got. My mom has some trauma, and her sister has chronic depression which she has never acknowledged. The genes did their thing I guess. The weak link, that I am.

 

[spanishguy22]

I mean, mental illness does run in my family but they don't recognize it. Nobody has had a severe case anyways, but my grandma has depression brought on by abuse in her ruchildhood, and my father has anxiety and bouts of depression joined with alcoholism which he got from his dad and I also got. My mom has some trauma, and her sister has chronic depression which she has never acknowledged. The genes did their thing I guess. The weak link, that I am.

It's clear to me you aren't weak then, your genes+ tough things you've been through have done all the work, I'd say try not to beat yourself up for that, although I know it has to be hard for you

 

[Jolene40]

Since I was 6 or 7 my mother always says that she would kill herself by: hanging, jumping out from top floor, hitting her head to the wall or a desk, sleeping, etc.
she never do it, now I'm here.

That must have been so awful to watch

 

[Quinlor]

My uncle. Ten years ago I had my first depression crises and started to take AD. Three months after, I gave up the treatment and my father delivery my AD boxes to my uncle because he suffered by depression as well. So after a fight with your spouse he just take all AD at once .

 

[Soul]

My mother and maternal grandmother, my paternal aunt and both her sons. It's definitely a thing my family does. My generation of it all decided not to reproduce - whether it's genetics or upbringing or prenatal stress, the buck stops here.

 

[spanishguy22]

My mother and maternal grandmother, my paternal aunt and both her sons. It's definitely a thing my family does. My generation of it all decided not to reproduce - whether it's genetics or upbringing or prenatal stress, the buck stops here.

I'm sorry about that. I think I read several posts from you that said you didn't really have depression but still want out... Is that really true? Like, you feel happy right now and can enjoy things to the fullest and still want to ctb? Sorry if I misremembered or it's too personal

 

[Soul]

Yep, that's me. I had a crappy childhood and was depressed until I was about 28, but it's all right now (in fact it's a gas - well, maybe not a gas, but fine). I enjoy a lot in life but that's getting to be more and more of a struggle, due to physical illness, and suicide is something I've always been sure I'd do someday so ... so I shall.

 

[spanishguy22]

Yep, that's me. I had a crappy childhood and was depressed until I was about 28, but it's all right now (in fact it's a gas - well, maybe not a gas, but fine). I enjoy a lot in life but that's getting to be more and more of a struggle, due to physical illness, and suicide is something I've always been sure I'd do someday so ... so I shall.

Well I see depression as something I can't recover from so thanks for a little hope, although I'm so far gone I can't even fathom it, it's so unrealistic for me. But you recovered so hope you can bounce back again

 

[Soul]

Well I see depression as something I can't recover from so thanks for a little hope, although I'm so far gone I can't even fathom it, it's so unrealistic for me. But you recovered so hope you can bounce back again

Spanishguy22, I hope you find a way to travel lighter and more serenely. Thank you for your well-wishes; I don't need to bounce back, though: I'm in a good place.

 

[letmeseethedeath]

yes, my grandpa, but he didn't succeed. he spent all his days like i do saying how he wanted to die and in the same conditions/habits

 

[spanishguy22]

yes, my grandpa, but he didn't succeed. he spent all his days like i do saying how he wanted to die and in the same conditions/habits

my grandma wss like that too :(

 

[letmeseethedeath]

my grandma wss like that too :(

i hope we are luckier than them :( hugs

 

[ShadowOfTheDay]

None on either side of my family. I'm the odd one out that is trying to die when my family is charactherized by having a desperately strong survival instinct. It's terribly ironic and it makes me feel even more alienated.

I'm 33 years old and I just recently was informed about the prevalence of mental health issues among my long decesed relatives. My grandparents are the most "functional," happy couple that ever lived. When my grandfather heard about my problems, he openened up to me, and shared things that I never would have guessed: that his brother killed himeself drinking rubbing alcohol when he was a teenager, and that both of his sister's underwent electroshock "therapy" back in the 1950's (not ECT). My point is, you never know what your predecessors went through. You may feel like the "black sheep" of your family, but--chances are-- you were not the first in your bloodline to have thoughts of C'ingTB.

 

[TAW122]

As far as I know, there isn't. Then again, I don't know my extended family that well, they live overseas and I rarely (if ever) get in contact with them. I'm guessing there may be a family member in my family tree that has CTB'ed before that I don't know about.