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DeIetedUser4739

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I just read an article about a footballer that had "tragically passed away", at no point did they mention why or how and just left the phone number to a suicide hotline at the end of the article.

The same story was on TV, they didn't mention the suicide hotline at all. They just said his death is being treated as non-suspicious.

I don't think there is any hope of Euthanasia being legalized if the News can't even mention a death was the result of Suicide. A reason I've seen mentioned is "out of respect for the family".

I really hate that society can't handle any talk of suicide yet is fascinated with stories of people getting murdered which sometimes go into graphic details of how the victim died.

It really makes no sense when you think about it.
 
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Dr Iron Arc

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They're scared of copycat suicides and media companies have been complained to before about the way suicides have been reported so I guess they're overcompensating.
 
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Yeah, don't expect legal euthanasia and society handling even rationally talking about suicide, won't happen anytime soon
 
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I just read an article about a footballer that had "tragically passed away", at no point did they mention why or how and just left the phone number to a suicide hotline at the end of the article.

The same story was on TV, they didn't mention the suicide hotline at all. They just said his death is being treated as non-suspicious.

I don't think there is any hope of Euthanasia being legalized if the News can't even mention a death was the result of Suicide. A reason I've seen mentioned is "out of respect for the family".

I really hate that society can't handle any talk of suicide yet is fascinated with stories of people getting murdered which sometimes go into graphic details of how the victim died.

It really makes no sense when you think about it.
The reasons are economic. They want people alive to exploit them - either by working them into the ground or via Big Pharma making money from their depression. Someone always wins if a suicidal person is kept alive, and sadly it's not the person themself.
 
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100% agree with you. It is so sad how in an obituary a persons death is sometimes described as he/she died "suddenly" in their home or wherever. I am "suddenly", it is suicide, and the darn press cannot be honest and say what it is.

I live in a city of over 4 million and it is either not said at all, or some stupid things like: suddenly.

But I guess it is the same as when I tell someone about my attempts and they either roll their eyes or get away from me as if I have a horrible disease.

Welcome to human nature, I guess.

Walter
 
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ijustwishtodie

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Yep. Society can't have people kill themselves because we contribute to the system. Dead men pay no taxes after all. Even if we were incapable of working, we'd still be contributing to the system by being a consumer so society still benefits from us being alive. It's absolutely twisted as to how we're forced to be kept alive all because of society
 
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I find all this pro-life censorship to be so disgusting, suicide needs to be accepted as a human right and it's beyond unacceptable how it isn't. Not everyone wants to be trapped for decades in this undesirable existence where there is literally no limit as to how much one can suffer.
 
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Just curious, which footaller was this?

Was it a 29 year old AFL player by any chance? I heard about it too but was not sure it was suicide but i did read he battled mental health issues
 
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Everyone wants to talk about mental health until it comes time to talk about mental health
 
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Ignorance is bliss and religion is the opium of the masses. The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison. Suicide is the most taboo subject because if discourse around suicide were encouraged, then the normies aka sheeples would realize that their life is a lie. Sheeples don't want to confront the fact that life is meaningless.

Life is all about survival and people are drunk on hopium and copium, desperate to find meaning. Everything that people do is just a cope (from the truth that there is no meaning of life). People work their lives away even though they will die in the end. People run away from the void inside by chasing endless pleasures: drinking, drugs, relationships, love, romance, intimacy, connection, you name it. The truth is that nothing matters in the end. Everything you have ever accomplished will die along with you, so there's really no point in achieving anything. Why try if you will die? Death is inevitable. Everyone dies, whether they want to or not.

The reason why suicide is so taboo and censored is that it forces people to face the meaninglessness of life and the fact that not everybody enjoys life. Suicide forces people to come to terms with the fact that some people hated life so much that they decided to end it.
The reasons are economic. They want people alive to exploit them - either by working them into the ground or via Big Pharma making money from their depression. Someone always wins if a suicidal person is kept alive, and sadly it's not the person themself.
True. It's all about money and the economy at the end of the day. They keep us alive for money and profit and expect us to become slaves to the system. Everything in this world revolves around money.
Yep. Society can't have people kill themselves because we contribute to the system. Dead men pay no taxes after all. Even if we were incapable of working, we'd still be contributing to the system by being a consumer so society still benefits from us being alive. It's absolutely twisted as to how we're forced to be kept alive all because of society
This is exactly why. It's fucked up how we're all brought into this world against our will and without a choice, yet we don't have the freedom or right to leave.
 
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The reason is that suicide has been taboo in western culture since the days of the Roman Empire.
 
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Just curious, which footaller was this?

Was it a 29 year old AFL player by any chance? I heard about it too but was not sure it was suicide but i did read he battled mental health issues
Yeah that's who it was.
 
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Probably more out of respect for the dead and their family. Suicide is always tragic, we don't need the media to make a big deal and speculate. No one knows what is going on in someone's mind when they are suicidal.
 
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For some reason, people think that talking about suicide is encouraging it. It's ironic, because forcing us to shut up and repress it instead of talking makes the urge to end it all worse, and they don't even realize it. At least, I think that's a big part of the problem.
 
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For some reason, people think that talking about suicide is encouraging it. It's ironic, because forcing us to shut up and repress it instead of talking makes the urge to end it all worse, and they don't even realize it. At least, I think that's a big part of the problem.
Nail on the head with this one I feel like. I've never felt more comfortable talking about it, and to be honest it's just been so nice. I've been on a real low, and usually it takes me a while to get out of it but talking about it here has helped immensely.
 
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I just read an article about a footballer that had "tragically passed away", at no point did they mention why or how and just left the phone number to a suicide hotline at the end of the article.

The same story was on TV, they didn't mention the suicide hotline at all. They just said his death is being treated as non-suspicious.

I don't think there is any hope of Euthanasia being legalized if the News can't even mention a death was the result of Suicide. A reason I've seen mentioned is "out of respect for the family".

I really hate that society can't handle any talk of suicide yet is fascinated with stories of people getting murdered which sometimes go into graphic details of how the victim died.

It really makes no sense when you think about it.
suicide is being very taboo for maybe all time our society is existing. thats because any details in massmedia isnt showing only if it was suicide. it is massmedia fault. it is society fault. i dont think that Euthanasia will be legalised in immediate 100 years or even more because tabooing suicide is MASSIVE.
 
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Ignorance is bliss and religion is the opium of the masses. The best way to keep a prisoner from escaping is to make sure he never knows he's in prison. Suicide is the most taboo subject because if discourse around suicide were encouraged, then the normies aka sheeples would realize that their life is a lie. Sheeples don't want to confront the fact that life is meaningless.

Life is all about survival and people are drunk on hopium and copium, desperate to find meaning. Everything that people do is just a cope (from the truth that there is no meaning of life). People work their lives away even though they will die in the end. People run away from the void inside by chasing endless pleasures: drinking, drugs, relationships, love, romance, intimacy, connection, you name it. The truth is that nothing matters in the end. Everything you have ever accomplished will die along with you, so there's really no point in achieving anything. Why try if you will die? Death is inevitable. Everyone dies, whether they want to or not.

The reason why suicide is so taboo and censored is that it forces people to face the meaninglessness of life and the fact that not everybody enjoys life. Suicide forces people to come to terms with the fact that some people hated life so much that they decided to end it.

True. It's all about money and the economy at the end of the day. They keep us alive for money and profit and expect us to become slaves to the system. Everything in this world revolves around money.

This is exactly why. It's fucked up how we're all brought into this world against our will and without a choice, yet we don't have the freedom or right to leave.

Great post. Spot on.

In regards to the economic aspect, there's a quote I really like:

"Suicide is illegal because it's a crime to destroy government property."
 
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Suicide: permanent solution to permanent problems
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I just read an article about a footballer that had "tragically passed away", at no point did they mention why or how and just left the phone number to a suicide hotline at the end of the article.

The same story was on TV, they didn't mention the suicide hotline at all. They just said his death is being treated as non-suspicious.

I don't think there is any hope of Euthanasia being legalized if the News can't even mention a death was the result of Suicide. A reason I've seen mentioned is "out of respect for the family".

I really hate that society can't handle any talk of suicide yet is fascinated with stories of people getting murdered which sometimes go into graphic details of how the victim died.

It really makes no sense when you think about it.
Actually calling these numbers is just a sure fire way to end up in a psych facility where they just drug you up (which does not solve anything)
Great post. Spot on.

In regards to the economic aspect, there's a quote I really like:

"Suicide is illegal because it's a crime to destroy government property."
people invest in suicide prevention because they don't want the cogs of the machine called society to fall out
 
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Humans be like:

"DEATH BAD
REPRODUCTION GOOD"
 
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Same thing again today with the golfer. There's about 2 articles on the entire internet that mention it. All the rest say some form of "the reason for death has not been released".
 
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I hate the censorship of anything, especially online. The Internet used to be a haven for free expression of any kind, no matter how disagreeable or controversial. Now if you want to be listened to, you have to go about with sanitizing your speech even though what you are talking about is still not only present, but completely obvious. Take the euphemism "unalive" for example, which came into being because of censorship on big tech platforms like TikTok and YouTube. Everyone knows exactly what you are trying to say, so what is the point in softening the blow?

We must be willing to face reality head-on, especially during times like these, where thousands of people are dying from war and genocide. Censoring a subject of contention doesn't make it go away. People will continue dying, ideologies will remain unshaken, and those with thoughts shunned by the mainstream media will congregate and form their own unchallenged echo chambers. I find it so concerning that a shockingly large amount of Gen Z seems to be against free speech to some capacity. When the enemy loses their freedom of speech, so do you and I. We have to be able to do so little as to hear the word "suicide", unadulterated and uncensored. Regardless of semantics, someone ended their life because of our world's failures.
 
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People saying society only wants us alive because we're worth more that way are slightly off the mark, IMO. A society which was truly concerned with exploiting the economic potential of all its members wouldn't have so many millions of people living out their lives in unproductive poverty. For each of us who dies there are hundreds available to take our place in the system, so we, as individuals, are clearly disposable.

For me the answer is more about power than economics: all power is predicated on the ability to either give or take away something which someone else values, thus taking one's own life (or the complete willingness to take one's own life) constitutes the ultimate negation of someone's power over you. This is why society can't tolerate its members going around thinking they can easily just kill themselves if they want to, and why, perversely, we have to be constantly reassured that our individual lives and well-being have value when society clearly doesn't value these things at all.
 
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People saying society only wants us alive because we're worth more that way are slightly off the mark, IMO. A society which was truly concerned with exploiting the economic potential of all its members wouldn't have so many millions of people living out their lives in unproductive poverty. For each of us who dies there are hundreds available to take our place in the system, so we, as individuals, are clearly disposable.

For me the answer is more about power than economics: all power is predicated on the ability to either give or take away something which someone else values, thus taking one's own life (or the complete willingness to take one's own life) constitutes the ultimate negation of someone's power over you. This is why society can't tolerate its members going around thinking they can easily just kill themselves if they want to, and why, perversely, we have to be constantly reassured that our individual lives and well-being have value when society clearly doesn't value these things at all.
I agree . That's the real reason they censor suicide and make guaranteed methods like nembutal, assisted suicide, suicide booths etc into crimes
 
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I have very little to add to the brilliant post and replies to this post. You all pretty much summed it up: We are all just cogs in a wheel, only valued as workers/consumers to the braindead sheep and the powers to be. We are all just prisoners who are here by no choice of our own making. What a sad but honest reality.
 
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Suicide: permanent solution to permanent problems
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Thank god net neutrality didn't become a thing I remember everyone talking about Ajit Pai
 
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Apr 23, 2020
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I just read an article about a footballer that had "tragically passed away", at no point did they mention why or how and just left the phone number to a suicide hotline at the end of the article.

The same story was on TV, they didn't mention the suicide hotline at all. They just said his death is being treated as non-suspicious.

I don't think there is any hope of Euthanasia being legalized if the News can't even mention a death was the result of Suicide. A reason I've seen mentioned is "out of respect for the family".

I really hate that society can't handle any talk of suicide yet is fascinated with stories of people getting murdered which sometimes go into graphic details of how the victim died.

It really makes no sense when you think about it.
CAPITOLIZING ON SUFFERING is now a biggest cash-cow . Its all about MONEY made on "Treatments" ie "Tortures".
 
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