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Walpurgisnacht

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Anyone else sometimes come here, read the really horrible things that've happened to other people and think that they're just overreacting to their own suffering?
Like, I know comparing traumas is stupid but I still can't help but think I'm just being a big baby sometimes and that my life is actually fine.
I dunno, does this ever happen to any of you?
 
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L4in

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Absolutely. I can't help but feel kinda guilty. Because I know I can theoretically get better, there isn't anything stopping me other than my own mind
 
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Sluggish_Slump

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There are many different reasons for a suicide attempt, it's not always suffering (in the conventional way) that leads a person to make the final choice to CTB, but it is probably the most common reason. There are other factors like exposure to certain depictions of suicide that can cause an increase in suicide rates, or maybe even as a preventative measure / gesture of defeat like Seppuku.

If your life is still worth living, then maybe reconsider, but either way, it's nobody else's business whether you choose to live or CTB. Even if people judge, it doesn't really matter because you won't stay to hear about it.
 
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mondume

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I would say that if everything objectively speaking is OK with your life (what I mean is about 60% good to 40% not so good), but you still have strong suicidal ideation, that could well be due to a form of depression or other mental illness which could very well be treatable. If you are suicidal due to external circumstances, think about how you might be able to change those (or walk away from them). Unfortunately, some people (like myself) are relatively young but have chronic health problems and unremitting pain which has resulted in untreatable and deepening depression. I have striven valiantly (I think) for more than a decade, but now I have arrived at my limit, and my situation keeps getting worse.
 
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PoisonousPotato

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you don't have to feel guilty for smth that should be a basic human right
 
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mondume

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Guilt is an extremely complex issue, and is many-sided. It is commonly stated that taking your own life is a selfish act, but the fact is that most people do it for selfless reasons, and they consider carefully the aftereffects if they are successful.
 
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orca87

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Absolutely. However, one pattern I see often and totally relate to is the feeling of not belonging anywhere.

I think most of suicidal ideation comes from problems in one's social life — relationship, family, or friends (or lack of them). This, in turn creates a feeling of not being understood: my story is so special and nobody can understand the pain. In fact, the desire to die is in most cases a desire to stop living like this. If you want to exchange your life to end suffering, you most likely would accept another suffering to end yours. Hence, you feel like all the others are "better off" and just overreacting.

In fact, I have a friend who goes through a traumatic and financially distressing breakup. They both have a child of 18 months. He is one year older than me. That is one of the few stories I wouldn't like to exchange for my suffering. And to some degree I envy him that he can keep a positive attitude and not thinking about CTB
 
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mondume

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Incidentally, how do I locate the search bar or search box on this site? I can't find it anywhere.
 
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PurpleBlack

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If i broke my leg doing a sick backflip on a motorcycle and you broke your leg tripping on the way to the supermarket, would you have less of a broken leg compared to me?

Your feeling are valid, doesn't matter how you get to them. IMO they cannot be out on a scale and compared to others, so don't feel like you don't 'deserve' to feel like that based om others experiences
 
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Sluggish_Slump

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Incidentally, how do I locate the search bar or search box on this site? I can't find it anywhere.
after you comment something like 10 times or so , more options open up , including search bar and private chat. you can probably comment stuff at the offtopic threads if you don't want here
 
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mondume

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Thanks. It's just this minute appeared!
after you comment something like 10 times or so , more options open up , including search bar and private chat. you can probably comment stuff at the offtopic threads if you don't want here
 
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Walpurgisnacht

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some people (like myself) are relatively young but have chronic health problems and unremitting pain which has resulted in untreatable and deepening depression.
Yeah I have a lot of chronic health issues and constant pain as well. I don't think most 23 year olds have this kind of constantly worsening fragility and pain. I don't even know where it came from, but I doubt shooting up heroin for a few years or being an underage anorexic alcoholic helped it at all. I feel like I'm getting all the pains and degradations of age but I'm not that old and I don't think it started more than 6 or so years ago. My body is just shutting down more gradually and I guess the time I was an addict just made me not feel it enough.
It is really horrible, I know a couple other people with similar issues and I hate seeing them suffering so much with no relief just constantly, I wish I could do something to ease it for them but I just can't..
I'm sorry you have to deal with this.

If i broke my leg doing a sick backflip on a motorcycle and you broke your leg tripping on the way to the supermarket, would you have less of a broken leg compared to me?
This is quite an eloquent way of putting it actually.

Thank you everyone.
 
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Ki_Nam

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Mar 23, 2023
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I know I can get better, but something's in the way. Like having yourself be exposed for everyone in the neighborhood to see. Do you know how unbearable that is?
 
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thisiswhoiam-

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Almost everyone in a mental hospital I was in had a past trauma, except me. It was a private hospital for rich people though so it might not be the norm.
 
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hellispink

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I have never feel guilty for wanting to die. Its my body my rights. I support whatever others choose to do to . I dont question myself on death and neither I question others reasons behind it. Everyone that wants it must be granted the wish
 
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snickethicket

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Mar 29, 2023
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I have struggled with these feelings for a long time. I was in the psych ward twice in the past year, and each drone as I was admitted I felt so incredibly guilty for taking up that space because surely other people had it worse than me so maybe I didn't need it after all. The thing I try to remember though is that none of the friends I made in that setting, or any other suicidal people I've talked to, have said anything about that or made me feel like I shouldn't feel the way I do. Everyone has a different story and different reasons to feel a certain way, and none is less valid than any other.
 
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Rob1984

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If i broke my leg doing a sick backflip on a motorcycle and you broke your leg tripping on the way to the supermarket, would you have less of a broken leg compared to me?

The way I interpreted OP's post was that they felt their suffering was not proportionate to their circumstances. In other words, that they are overreacting to their own circumstances when other people who are reacting equivalently to them are doing it because their circumstances are significantly worse (implying their reaction is more justified, and OP is just being a "big baby").

Using your analogy, it would be more accurate to say "If I sprained my ankle but was reacting as if I broke it, because the way people react when they break their ankles is the way I am reacting to my sprained ankle" (I only used ankle because I am not actually sure if it's possible to sprain a leg?). Your analogy is implying that OP is reacting to identical circumstances (both people breaking their legs), but that seemed to be what they were concerned about- that their circumstances is not the same, and actually not as severe, therefore they are overreacting.

Anyone else sometimes come here, read the really horrible things that've happened to other people and think that they're just overreacting to their own suffering?
Like, I know comparing traumas is stupid but I still can't help but think I'm just being a big baby sometimes and that my life is actually fine.
I dunno, does this ever happen to any of you?

I think this is really common! Likely because we don't know what it is like to be other people and live their lives. We have only ever known our own reality. It's also important to consider we are all different as humans, and we react differently to our circumstances. This is why some people can have horrible upbringings but still manage to turn out okay without a ton of trauma, whereas other people have upbringings that are not nearly as bad, yet they had horrible depression. Siblings are a fantastic demonstration of this (how they come from the same house yet can grow up dramatically different). It's almost impossible to compare your situation to somebody else's, because there are a million factors that make up our reality. Everything from our family, friends, neighborhood, genetics, expectations, teachers, culture, etc. We also react to so many things subconsciously, or we bury things deep in our minds, so sometimes we don't even remember some of the trauma that occured to us!

What is important is your suffering is very real, regardless if you think it is unjustified because somebody seems to have it "worse" than you. Their suffering does not diminish your suffering. In fact, it can do the opposite! You may feel guilty for your suffering, which makes you suffer even more (which is what you expressed). It's like a feedback loop that perpetually goes in circles.

Growing up, my parents put a roof over my head, fed me, bought me clothing, etc. They didn't even physically hit me. So I was in complete denial of my depression because I would always say "you have it better than so many other people so you do not deserve to be depressed." I probably learned to tell myself this because my parents would say it to me. They constantly would invalidate my sadness because my life "could be so much worse." That shit only made me feel guilty and more depressed.
 
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Forever Sleep

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I feel bad for other people's suffering- certainly. I don't view this as a competition though. I don't think there is a standard threshold everyone needs to pass for it to be permissable to feel like this. I think it's entirely up to the individual- autonomy all the way! My life belongs to me. It doesn't matter if other people feel like they could tolerate it- they're not the ones living it. I've always been very stubborn though!
 
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OutOfTheVoid

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Feb 10, 2023
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kind of. i dont really hinge my desire to ctb on how much i suffer, i just dont like existing and i gave up on trying to live. but i do feel kinda bad when i talk about my milder experiences or even mention if im feeling ok or something. then again ive been going through so much awful shit lately and my life is on a downward spiral so i dont have much room for imposter syndrome anymore lol
 
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WorthlessCoward

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Mar 21, 2023
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Nah, my issues are more important than all the problems in the world put together