Discussion Suicide gestures - any advice

[hunter_lewis]

no question is purely theoretical-if you are thinking of this, please do NOT do it and get help. If you don't want to die, that's great. There must be some way to deal with whatever exactly is making you so sad that you want to die that does not involve risking organ damage.

 

[MEoDP]

That kind of behavior is childish and ruins it for the people that really want to die because people assume stuff like 'It's a cry for help', 'They don't want to die', 'Life is worth living and suicide gestures show so' and all kinds of bullshit. Because of this, people also assume that wanting to kill yourself is something emo teenagers do and it is labelled as cowardice, weakness and having the inability to cope with life's problems which are not true for many ctb-ers.
If you are having a problem with someone, the best thing to do is not to gulp a bottle of aspirin and pass out, but talk. God thankfully gave you a mouth and the power of speech-use it! You can tell them that you are thinking of ctb because you are so miserable and you will get help and support!

True enough. I'm aware that this idea really isn't the best way to do things in 90% of circumstances,but I feel its at least something worth discussing.

 

[whatmattersmost]

Yeah. Sorry I'm actually use to saying PM but I thought I saw someone say DM here.

Edit: how do I pm here?

I sent a DM to your PM.
Whatever that Means.

 

[IronicFail]

I sent a DM to your PM.
Whatever that Means.

Cheers. DM means direct message as compared to private

 

[MEoDP]

Well it's Me Your FATHER.
Just Playing.
What kind of business would You start?
I owned a business,it wasn't to bad.
I was High the entire time though.
Sound's like You might have some Goals that are in Your Reach.

haha. My father is very dismissive of forums,of any kind. yeah,he's THAT close-minded. pisses me off,really.

I haven't the slightest idea yet of what business to start,but a blogger I trust plans to release a business-video course that may help me get started and I wish to convince my mom to buy the course so we could both start our own independent business. I just hope I can convince her. there's a 30 day money back guarantee on the course,so even if it ends up being unhelpful,we can get a refund.

but I'm surprised to hear you once owned a business,and you maintained this despite getting high on a regular basis?

Well,I suppose I have a reasonable enough chance to reach my goals,but of course,I could still end up failing,and my fall back is to CTB if such an unfortunate scenario is to occur.

 

[MEoDP]

I owned a business,it wasn't to bad.
I was High the entire time though.

If you don't mind,could you give me some detail on how you began and ran your own business? You can PM if you don't wish this information posted publicly. it would be highly appreciated.

 

[IronicFail]

You made a good point as well <3 it does happen, like you say

And the other damage that can come out of it too. I had a partner (ex, whom I had to get a restraining order against) "attempt". I wasn't having it, my best friend had CTB'd recently, and so I called it in. It ended her career (though, thankfully... She could have killed a lot of people). This was nearly a decade ago.

And the social damage it can do too...

 

[whatmattersmost]

Cheers. DM means direct message as compared to private

Your a GENIUS.

Cheers. DM means direct message as compared to private

I'm confused. .
I don't know if I sent You a DM or a PM.

 

[MAIO]

So somebody is choosing suicide over attending School because there Parents are being Pushy/Forcing/Pressuring. . .
If I could Go back in time I wish I would've Finished School, I dropped out because My parents didn't care.
Anyways. .
You shouldn't have to make attempt just Vocalize to them that they are making You Suicidal.

Agreed unless you have a kickass plan going to school is almost always better.

 

[whatmattersmost]

And the other damage that can come out of it too. I had a partner (ex, whom I had to get a restraining order against) "attempt". I wasn't having it, my best friend had CTB'd recently, and so I called it in. It ended her career (though, thankfully... She could have killed a lot of people). This was nearly a decade ago.

And the social damage it can do too...

She could have killed alot of People?
How so?

 

[whatmattersmost]

There's alot of DMing & PMing on this thread & I don't like it.

 

[josh228]

Is there any risk whatsoever of permanent damage or just guaranteed temporary pain and discomfort?

you could be in for a new hell called tinnitus depending on how much you take

 

[MEoDP]

She could have killed alot of People?
How so?

she probably planned to use a method that risks the lives of others. Maybe a bomb or CO in a place with people nearby.

 

[IronicFail]

She could have killed alot of People?
How so?

Military.

She tried to kill me (twice) after we broke up. Other people in her unit where afraid for their and other's safety when she was about...

I'd also seen her randomly assualt people.

 

[MAIO]

Minimum Wage job that forces you to do stuff you'd rather not do at best and actively hate at worst for nearly your entire day(9-5)and for the rest of your life. I might be able to talk my mom into helping me start a business so I can avoid such a fate,but there's no guarantee.

and yeah,I unfortunately don't have the most understanding parents.(or dare I say it,they aren't the most insightful either. otherwise,they would have figured a way for me to get around the problem. Plenty of people have managed to achieve reasonably happy lives without college or traditional

I know it may seem that way due to what many high schools parents etc push but it's utter nonsense. All you need to do is come up with a decent plan. So my dad is a dr who went to an Ivy League school. My other uncle worked at McDonald's all his life and never went to college Who do you think makes more money? My uncle he worked his way up and owns lots of Mcdondals now. It normally doesn't work out that way. However all you have to do is come up with a plan. You want to do nothing your entire life and set your own schedules? Their are jobs like that. I rented my own house, slept-35% of the job played computer gamer 50% Andy drove around the other 15%.

 

[whatmattersmost]

Military.

She tried to kill me (twice) after we broke up. Other people in her unit where afraid for their and other's safety when she was about...

I'd also seen her randomly assualt people.

Sounds like a Match made in Heaven.
If You want to CTB I Not let her Kill You?
I told My friend to shoot Me 1st then I would shoot Him if I didn't Die immediately, He thought I was Joking.

 

[whatmattersmost]

I know it may seem that way due to what many high schools parents etc push but it's utter nonsense. All you need to do is come up with a decent plan. So my dad is a dr who went to an Ivy League school. My other uncle worked at McDonald's all his life and never went to college Who do you think makes more money? My uncle he worked his way up and owns lots of Mcdondals now. It normally doesn't work out that way. However all you have to do is come up with a plan. You want to do nothing your entire life and set your own schedules? Their are jobs like that. I rented my own house, slept-35% of the job played computer gamer 50% Andy drove around the other 15%.

What's your Job?

 

[MAIO]

What's your Job?

Software developer. I was a PSW when I had that lifestyle though. (No college education requires)

 

[MEoDP]

I know it may seem that way due to what many high schools parents etc push but it's utter nonsense. All you need to do is come up with a decent plan.

To be honest,I'm aware of this,but powerless to do anything. My dad's the one pressuring me to keep on going to college,and if I don't do my part,I get kicked out of the house into the street. I suppose I could still go and live with my mom,who is more open to the idea,but...I'm honestly fucking scared to try and pull such a thing,especially because I'm aware that I cannot honestly call myself all that competent. I've been a clumsy guy all my life.

However all you have to do is come up with a plan. You want to do nothing your entire life and set your own schedules? Their are jobs like that. I rented my own house, slept-35% of the job played computer gamer 50% Andy drove around the other 15%.

The one plan I have as of now is to convince my mom to buy a business course that will be released around October by a blogger I trust,that can serve as a guideline to help a person put up a business that'll eventually allow a person less working hours and more free time for themselves.

I'd highly appreciate it however if you let us know about your working life and how you got it. either here or by PM if you don't wish to let the public know.

Edit: Oh...software developer. I totally lack the skills for that. haha.

 

[whatmattersmost]

Software developer. I was a PSW when I had that lifestyle though. (No college education requires)

What is a PSW?

 

[IronicFail]

Sounds like a Match made in Heaven.
If You want to CTB I Not let her Kill You?
I told My friend to shoot Me 1st then I would shoot Him if I didn't Die immediately, He thought I was Joking.

At the time, I was trying not to be suicidal. I was though. But mostly because when it happened instinct and military training kicked in.

 

[whatmattersmost]

At the time, I was trying not to be suicidal. I was though. But mostly because when it happened instinct and military training kicked in.

How long ago was that?
So she CTB or did I read something wrong?

 

[IronicFail]

9 years, right after my injury.

No, she's alive and kicking. Morbidly obese, working for radio shack last I heard. Her "attempt" was a cry for help. The CTB was a friend of mine. He died around the time she did her "cry for help"

 

[whatmattersmost]

9 years, right after my injury.

No, she's alive and kicking. Morbidly obese, working for radio shack last I heard. Her "attempt" was a cry for help. The CTB was a friend of mine. He died around the time she did her "cry for help"

She sounds like a Hottie with a Body.
Am I right or am I right?
Was she the one that got away?
What was your Injury?

 

[IronicFail]

She was oddly. But her insanity was vastly superior to her beauty. Now she looks like a fat meth addict.

No, the one that got away is the person I mentioned in PM to you. I get your joking but I'm so tired right now that I can't match wits.

Got hit by a car, whilst on a run. My knee and as a knock-on effect my hip on the and side are pretty much ruined. (Nerve damage, bone spur, and no ligaments in my knee anymore. The latter is what resulted in my hip going).

 

[MEoDP]

She was oddly. But her insanity was vastly superior to her beauty. Now she looks like a fat meth addict.

No, the one that got away is the person I mentioned in PM to you. I get your joking but I'm so tired right now that I can't match wits.

Got hit by a car, whilst on a run. My knee and as a knock-on effect my hip on the and side are pretty much ruined. (Nerve damage, bone spur, and no ligaments in my knee anymore. The latter is what resulted in my hip going).

is your injury your reason for wanting to CTB?

I gotta sleep soon,just logging in for a bit 1 last time today

 

[IronicFail]

No. It's just a factor. I was abused as a kid and teen. I used those experiences to develop resilience but I've zero good social skills in person due to aspects of the abuse. But a few years ago that resilience got shot to shit (sadly not literally). I've been surviving since then by using goals. But I've reached the end of the path and it'll be too costly (physically, emotionally, financially etc) for me to change paths... And honestly I'm too tired to. I'm too tired of fighting my depression and anxiety and my history.

 

[MAIO]

To be honest,I'm aware of this,but powerless to do anything. My dad's the one pressuring me to keep on going to college,and if I don't do my part,I get kicked out of the house into the street. I suppose I could still go and live with my mom,who is more open to the idea,but...I'm honestly fucking scared to try and pull such a thing,especially because I'm aware that I cannot honestly call myself all that competent. I've been a clumsy guy all my life.


The one plan I have as of now is to convince my mom to buy a business course that will be released around October by a blogger I trust,that can serve as a guideline to help a person put up a business that'll eventually allow a person less working hours and more free time for themselves.

I'd highly appreciate it however if you let us know about your working life and how you got it. either here or by PM if you don't wish to let the public know.

Edit: Oh...software developer. I totally lack the skills for that. haha.

I personally was a personal Support worker at the time(no college whatsoever nessicary) In a lot of security jobs you can also mess around on your phone,watch movies Animax etc. I am extremely busy as a JR software developer and still have to prove myself. It's really hard to start your own business and almost everyone fails.

 

[MEoDP]

I personally was a personal Support worker at the time(no college whatsoever nessicary) In a lot of security jobs you can also mess around on your phone,watch movies Animax etc. I am extremely busy as a JR software developer and still have to prove myself. It's really hard to start your own business and almost everyone fails.

I'm indeed fully aware that there's no guarantee of success. That's life for ya. Catching the bus is the fallback option for me if everything goes wrong.

 

[starcrossedfate]

I miss this stage of my life.