GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I'm frustrated that I feel like the only member who has read and understood all of the OP's posts on this thread.

I'm feeling like utter shit about my life and situation, and while I'm glad there is no one telling me that my life is worth living or whatever,

Ok first, you are now safe. You have a bf that cares and a family willing to take you in.
Find comfort in that.
Maybe it's possible now you can work on some healing techniques to try to find peace with living instead of dying?
i can't suggest you take your life or offer ways to do that, it's unethical. But since you have no options at all, that don't involve torturous agony, you are stuck with living.

Use your bf for support. Talk about things. Tell him. Let him and his family love you.

i wish I had more to offer but I don't.
The only possibility is hanging as others have mentioned .. but consider location .. i know it's frowned upon to say this but, devastating this family that took you in would be horrible.
 
GerMann

GerMann

year of birth: 1972
Nov 30, 2018
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Without reading preposter: Doesnt work, I have tried really hard, 20 years ago
 
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Anonymoussn

Specialist
May 12, 2020
381
I'm trying to avoid deterring you, as I think that you're already educated about the cons of this method.

But a question I cant get my head around is, is it even possible for most people to do this, physically, without vomiting and failing long before reaching a lethal dose? @Living sucks has stated that its 250 grams to make it a lethal dose. A quick google tells me that's just under 14 tablespoons, or just under 42 teaspoons. I personally could not imagine anyone being able to drink that much salt. Another quick google tells me that there are indeed examples of people who have done this, so it must be possible. All I'm saying is I think this would be far too challenging for me to do this, and I hope you've considered the possibility that you might find it an insurmountable challenge as well.
 
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Neville1

Student
Aug 26, 2019
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The biggest problem with the salt method is that you are more likely to suffer neurological, brain damage than to succeed in ctb.

Given this, it's highly appropriate that the community would advise against it.

There are other accessible methods which are more likely to be successful and less likely to leave one permanently damaged.
 
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JustovertheBS

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Jul 2, 2020
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Please dont choose this painful method.
 
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not-2-b-the-answer

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Mar 23, 2018
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I'm feeling like utter shit about my life and situation, and while I'm glad there is no one telling me that my life is worth living or whatever, I just wish people could be a little more empathetic towards me. I'm at my boyfriend's house currently because I just escaped my abusive family at 19. I can't purchase anything online bc he'll see it and I can't purchase anything at the store because he drives me. I have my hands tied behind my back. I can't do anything. Bleach or other poisons are far worse. I have no way to cut. I have no way to jump. I have no way to do anything else. I either poison myself with tylenol and wait the three days for my organs to fail, which won't work because they'll take me to the hospital, or I do this and get a stroke. I'm desperate. I just want to die. I'm willing to do anything so if anyone has a better idea for my situation I'm all ears.

So sorry for your situation. I don't really have any good advice. :hug: I don't know how you could purchase anything while you are being watched.
I am empathetic for your situation though. I don't really want to say anything else that would make it seem that this thread would be about myself.
 
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anorexic-pigeon

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Feb 29, 2020
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The biggest problem with the salt method is that you are more likely to suffer neurological, brain damage than to succeed in ctb.

Given this, it's highly appropriate that the community would advise against it.

There are other accessible methods which are more likely to be successful and less likely to leave one permanently damaged.
I get what you're saying, but hanging, drowning, any type of overdose, including SN, and pretty much any other method can cause permanent brain damage if interrupted. That's the risk. A lot of people have tried to dissuade me, so I am reconsidering. Hanging was my plan B. I just don't want to scar anybody who finds me. It's easier to find a lifeless body than it is to find a hanging lifeless body.
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
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I'm frustrated that I feel like the only member who has read and understood all of the OP's posts on this thread.
I read the posts .. i heard her. I also read the reality of the situation .. can't buy anything, can't self harm, doesn't want bf to find body.. so wtf else is there to offer?
She's stuck.. but she has support at the very least. You want me to tell her to go live on the street so she can self harm and maybe get hit by a car? or suggest she jump off the roof of the house or a building head first?

I did suggested hanging ...Which i wasn't comfortable with .. but respect it's her choice to end her life if it's the last and only option

It's not ok to express relief that OP is at least out of an abusive situation ? And to seek help from those that rescued her ? Per the rules, offer emotional support and give practical advice. Without encouraging or pro lifing.

Id rather see her find a way to live than die, but ultimately it's her choice. But right now she's stuck ... alive. And I'm not going to suggest how she can find a way to die. Only try to help her not die miserably or find a way to live.
 
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ebt88

Student
Jun 11, 2020
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You can rent a hotel room for a night and do whatever you want to there.
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
3,143
I've tried. I hate that I'm suicidal. I want to heal. But I've been suicidal since I was 8. I've attempted 5 times in the last year. I've been in extensive therapy. I'm medicated. I've been hospitalized. I've been in residential treatment. I've tried to take comfort in the love of my boyfriend and the other's in my life.
Nothing has worked. I'm still suicidal. I'm still a worthless piece of shit. I'm broken. I don't even remember who I was before I was broken. I am seeing a new psychiatrist on the 7th. I'll wait to see the effects of that. I can wait to see if things get better but I doubt they will.
I get it. I was not telling you life is worth living .. I was trying to be real with your situation.
you're in a new situation and it could help. It doesn't erase the past or trauma but you're alive right now. Salt method could cause more brain damage than any of these? It's not worth it.
 
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SSlostallhope

Student
May 23, 2020
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My SN cost me £7.27p surely it's better to try acquiring that?
 
Lostandfound7

Lostandfound7

Just waiting....
Jan 21, 2020
995
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My SN cost me £7.27p surely it's better to try acquiring that?
OP mentioned they can't purchase anything online cuz bf will see it and can't purchase anything in a store cuz he has to drive her there...Plus mentions the fact that they're "poor". So even if it costs $1, they still might not be able to afford it...So buying anything online and in store is out of the question..
 
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Anonymoussn

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May 12, 2020
381
I dont think that is @Living sucks intention at all. He/She is just concerned about increasing OP's suffering if they failed. At the end of the day - arent we all here to end our suffering? I know OP asked specifically not to try and deter them, but I think the user's intention came from a good place, and genuinely had OP's best interests at heart.
 
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Lostandfound7

Just waiting....
Jan 21, 2020
995
You can rent a hotel room for a night and do whatever you want to there.
S/he said they are "poor" and cannot afford a hotel...
 
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AngelGirl

AngelGirl

Cat
May 18, 2019
167
I think you should watch this video first.

It's also death by sodium toxicity. There's this woman who drank lots of soysauce in order to "cleanse her colon" like she saw on the internet. She died as a result. Check this out.
 
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Living sucks

Forced out of life before I wanted to leave
Mar 27, 2020
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I sincerely hope you got some help in this post and at least can make a better informed choice about the method.
no one wants to see you hurt more than you already do
 
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Tiredsotired

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Jun 26, 2020
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I think you should watch this video first.

It's also death by sodium toxicity. There's this woman who drank lots of soysauce in order to "cleanse her colon" like she saw on the internet. She died as a result. Check this out.

Yes, I've read about soy sauce intoxication. Apparently, it's a common suicide method in Asia.
 
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AnxietyAttack44

I just wanna go to my husband already.
Jun 5, 2020
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Yes, I've read about soy sauce intoxication. Apparently, it's a common suicide method in Asia.
I tried drinking some soy sauce after reading such news and im not sure how did they manage to down the required amount
 
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Tiredsotired

Member
Jun 26, 2020
46
I tried drinking some soy sauce after reading such news and im not sure how did they manage to down the required amount
I'm thinking maybe taking small gulps with a straw or one little 1/4 teaspoon at a time until you've ingested the fatal quantity. I don't think you'd need to take it all in one shot like with SN. Maybe it will just accumulate and gradually intoxicate your blood as you go, perhaps one 1/4 teaspoon or straw gulp every 5 minutes.
 
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AnxietyAttack44

I just wanna go to my husband already.
Jun 5, 2020
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I'm thinking maybe taking small gulps with a straw or one little 1/4 teaspoon at a time until you've ingested the fatal quantity. I don't think you'd need to take it all in one shot like with SN. Maybe it will just accumulate and gradually intoxicate your blood as you go, perhaps one 1/4 teaspoon or straw gulp every 5 minutes.
Thats actualy an interesting idea. I wouldnt have thought of that
 
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GoodPersonEffed

GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
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I tested with sea salt and water in lieu of SN (not 25g!) and started feeling effects very quickly. Personally, I would do the whole amount like the SN method so that as much as possible can be absorbed before the body starts trying to reject it.
 
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Tiredsotired

Member
Jun 26, 2020
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I tested with sea salt and water in lieu of SN (not 25g!) and started feeling effects very quickly. Personally, I would do the whole amount like the SN method so that as much as possible can be absorbed before the body starts trying to reject it.
I think the soy sauce acts differently than the SN because one acts like a poison and the other is intoxication. By letting the salt from the soy sauce accumulate in your blood in under 1 or 2 hours by taking small gulps, it would make it easier to ingest the whole quantity. There's no way you'd be able to drink 170ml of soy sauce in one shot.
 
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GoodPersonEffed

Brevity is my middle name, but my name was TL
Jan 11, 2020
6,727
I think the soy sauce acts differently than the SN because one acts like a poison and the other is intoxication. By letting the salt from the soy sauce accumulate in your blood in under 1 or 2 hours by taking small gulps, it would make it easier to ingest the whole quantity. There's no way you'd be able to drink 170ml of soy sauce in one shot.

I misread. I was still thinking salt, not soy sauce.
 
SadHoe

SadHoe

Member
Nov 11, 2018
43
SN method isnt that expensive (at least in mexico), i spent like $2 for a kilo of SN from a local chemical store, $1.25 for the AE and i had the antiacids at home.
 
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