Sucide by carbon monoxide

[FireFox]

How does ctb by carbon monoxide work?

 

[checkouttime]

This might help you. I would pretty much guarantee it involves headaches!!!!!

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/carbon-monoxide-megathread.2053/

 

[a.h]

This might help you. I would pretty much guarantee it involves headaches!!!!!

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/carbon-monoxide-megathread.2053/

If there is 10 000ppm (=1%) of CO person gets knocked out after 1-2 breaths (with 12 000ppm of CO instantly) and dies in 1-3min while unconscious.
No headache or pain.

In euthanasia with CO animals have no stress hormones in their blood and they show no stress when the space is being filled with CO and when they die due to it.

 

[TheQ22]

This is the method I would choose, it seems fast, painless, peaceful and could be passed off as an accident.

 

[Superdeterminist]

CO binds to haemoglobin with a higher affinity than oxygen (approximately 210 times more tightly according to Wikipedia), so that death occurs by oxygen deprivation. It's ostensibly quite a peaceful way to go, although some nausea and headaches may occur.

 

[checkouttime]

If there is 10 000ppm (=1%) of CO person gets knocked out after 1-2 breaths (with 12 000ppm of CO instantly) and dies in 1-3min while unconscious.
No headache or pain.

In euthanasia with CO animals have no stress hormones in their blood and they show no stress when the space is being filled with CO and when they die due to it.

I didn't realise it was so quick!

I'm a gas engineer and know all about the dangers of CO. I didnt even think of all the cases of people just falling asleep and not waking up due to faulty appliances at home etc. so many people just feel a bit drowsy in front of a gas fire for instance and nod off and don't wake up.

I have actually come across high reading whilst working on an appliance (about 10,000ppm) it actually damaged a machine i had!!

 

[a.h]

I didn't realise it was so quick!

I'm a gas engineer and know all about the dangers of CO. I didnt even think of all the cases of people just falling asleep and not waking up due to faulty appliances at home etc. so many people just feel a bit drowsy in front of a gas fire for instance and nod off and don't wake up.

I have actually come across high reading whilst working on an appliance (about 10,000ppm) it actually damaged a machine i had!!

Portable generators are said to make 80-85000 ppm of CO so people die every year just when plugging/unplugging them (the on/off button is in the same side with the exhaust air ). Cars without CAT had about 45 000ppm of CO in their exhaust. Also many people die accidentally while swimming close to boats and while sitting on the boat since boat engine creates lots of CO too (no CAT in those engines).
Every machinery that works with gas makes high levels of CO and are dangerous even the levels are lower than with generators and engines.

What appliance did you test? Did it damage the machine making high CO levels or the meter? Do you know why the metal parts of CO meter gets hot when testing something with high CO?

 

[Checkmate3]

Just saw this on the news: Carbon monoxide kills family of 5
RIP.

 

[esse_est_percipi]

In euthanasia with CO animals have no stress hormones in their blood and they show no stress when the space is being filled with CO and when they die due to it.

Might this be due to the fact that they don't know they are breathing in CO?

Wouldn't it be different with humans who know they are breathing in CO and will die soon? I'm sure this would release stress hormones.

 

[a.h]

Might this be due to the fact that they don't know they are breathing in CO?

Wouldn't it be different with humans who know they are breathing in CO and will die soon? I'm sure this would release stress hormones.

Of course people are less prone to call or get help with headache, nausea etc. if they don't think anything serious causes it. But I wonder if people had felt them and didn't have euphoria wouldn't they even go out of the car in cases where people died in car due to CO when one family member was shoveling snow around the car. When car exhaust with high CO (since CAT don't work with cold engine and car is covered with snow) come to cabin they would smell the unnormally strong gasoline smell. The exhaust of car is smoky and has strong gasoline smell (gasoline for gens and other small machinery is cleaner and creates less smoke). In some cases the levels were high but not high enough to kill everyone in the car so they most likely had time to open the door before falling asleep or being knocked out.

I think it's easier to notice negative symptoms with lower CO level. Also even if high level of CO don't cause bad side effects it will likely cause some later.

Few people here has told they felt euphoria before falling asleep or being knocked out when exposed to high levels of CO. I have read also of two cases of people (the other was miner) who have been exposed to high levels of CO but survived. Both said they felt euphoria fast.

 

[rancho]

Just saw this on the news: Carbon monoxide kills family of 5
RIP.

This is why I've asked about a generator here a few times, but it doesn't seem to get any positive replies.

 

[checkouttime]

Portable generators are said to make 80-85000 ppm of CO so people die every year just when plugging/unplugging them (the on/off button is in the same side with the exhaust air ). Cars without CAT had about 45 000ppm of CO in their exhaust. Also many people die accidentally while swimming close to boats and while sitting on the boat since boat engine creates lots of CO too (no CAT in those engines).
Every machinery that works with gas makes high levels of CO and are dangerous even the levels are lower than with generators and engines.

What appliance did you test? Did it damage the machine making high CO levels or the meter? Do you know why the metal parts of CO meter gets hot when testing something with high CO?

I have seen high readings on gas boilers. I have been to lots that haven't been originally commissioned properly or not been serviced for years and had CO readings that were high and in the end the meter(which wasn't old) cells died. i remember a boiler being broke and readings of 10,0000pm.i bought a new meter ,but my new meter turns off when readings get to high to protect itself. they are meant for taking readings but shouldn't be exposed for long periods of time. kinda hard work when trying to adjust combustion sometimes, i guess why my new one used to turn off the pump when readings got too high

On a boiler you can adjust the readings for the products of combustion.

 

[alexit]

The body doesn't know it's not taking in enough oxygen so there's no feeling of suffocation. It produces what's called hypoxia.

This is why I've asked about a generator here a few times, but it doesn't seem to get any positive replies.

It's dangerous if you live in a dwelling connected to others.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

Those websites also tell the time it takes for person to get unconscious with certain levels of CO. But they don't inform that people fall in deep sleep much before being knocked out (except in 12000ppm and higher instantly). Charts state no neutral or positive feelings like euphoria. But if they were true then most accidental deaths would not happen.

I support this from personal experience. I've been exposed to an indoor charcoal stove. The CO output couldn't have been more than 2000 ppm and we were heating a medium sized living room. There were six of us. Everyone started nodding off one by one. Only my aunt realized what was happening and took the stove out. She stumbled as she did it.

I can remember feeling drowsy, then waking up the next day with a splitting headache that went away after an hour or so. However, during the experience none of us felt any nausea or headaches like the charts say. If my aunt hadn't taken that sucker outside none of us would have woken up. I'd wager that it's very peaceful, almost like N, fall asleep and die.

I would suggest using a petrol generator, it's easier and less messy than charcoal. Mixing formic and sulphuric acid is another easy method. Then again, I'm good with chemicals so that might not be for everyone.

 

[checkouttime]

I support this from personal experience. I've been exposed to an indoor charcoal stove. The CO output couldn't have been more than 2000 ppm and we were heating a medium sized living room. There were six of us. Everyone started nodding off one by one. Only my aunt realized what was happening and took the stove out. She stumbled as she did it.

I can remember feeling drowsy, then waking up the next day with a splitting headache that went away after an hour or so. However, during the experience none of us felt any nausea or headaches like the charts say. If my aunt hadn't taken that sucker outside none of us would have woken up. I'd wager that it's very peaceful, almost like N, fall asleep and die.

I would suggest using a petrol generator, it's easier and less messy than charcoal. Mixing formic and sulphuric acid is another easy method. Then again, I'm good with chemicals so that might not be for everyone.

most gas boilers you are told to have the combustion readings <350ppm.now thats a sealed boiler with the CO going outside and obviously that is for safety. now if a seal was faulty, i know that continued exposure to this would cause CO2 poisoning.

You hear about people falling asleep in front of gas fires all the time. I used work for a guy when i 1st started and a tennant fell asleep in front of the fire and died, they also melted, partially

 

[TheQ22]

I support this from personal experience. I've been exposed to an indoor charcoal stove. The CO output couldn't have been more than 2000 ppm and we were heating a medium sized living room. There were six of us. Everyone started nodding off one by one. Only my aunt realized what was happening and took the stove out. She stumbled as she did it.

I can remember feeling drowsy, then waking up the next day with a splitting headache that went away after an hour or so. However, during the experience none of us felt any nausea or headaches like the charts say. If my aunt hadn't taken that sucker outside none of us would have woken up. I'd wager that it's very peaceful, almost like N, fall asleep and die.

I would suggest using a petrol generator, it's easier and less messy than charcoal. Mixing formic and sulphuric acid is another easy method. Then again, I'm good with chemicals so that might not be for everyone.

I'd imagine mucking around with chemicals would lead to a mess for most people, and I think some of the generators have CO detectors that cut it out or something?

Anyway I think CO seems like one of the more peaceful methods based on the numbers of people who have accidentally been overcome by it.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

I'd imagine mucking around with chemicals would lead to a mess for most people, and I think some of the generators have CO detectors that cut it out or something?

Formic acid is especially dangerous for someone mucking around as you say. It's still doable but requires a lot of care. You can actually do it with two large plastic bottles, a plastic trash bag, a water pipe and soapy water. As for the generator, the cheaper petrol models do not have filters. They can kill you super fast in an closed space. I'm talking less than five minutes.

 

[Klee]

This will be my method, I'm pretty sure. A drinkity drink beforehand and then a nice sleepity sleep.

 

[rancho]

This will be my method, I'm pretty sure. A drinkity drink beforehand and then a nice sleepity sleep.

How will you do it, though?

 

[a.h]

Formic acid is especially dangerous for someone mucking around as you say. It's still doable but requires a lot of care. You can actually do it with two large plastic bottles, a plastic trash bag, a water pipe and soapy water. As for the generator, the cheaper petrol models do not have filters. They can kill you super fast in an closed space. I'm talking less than five minutes.

I don't know why it has seemed so hard to build right by some who tried to do it (to get almost any CO). I'm interested to know of the test results if you do it.

Formic acid smell is very strong and spreads far.

 

[Meditation guide]

, during the experience none of us felt any nausea or headaches like the charts say

I had accidental exposure to CO and had a bad headache and felt sick as if I had the flu, with nausea. There was no euphoria and I didn't fall asleep.

Formic acid smell is very strong

Autopsies from this method show burns in the mouth throat nose and esophogus.

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

Autopsies from this method show burns in the mouth throat nose and esophogus.

This is why you need to filter out the fumes after the reaction. That's why I'd use the pipe and the soapy water. After the reaction the CO and fumes pass through the pipe to the bottle with the water. The water filters out the fumes and only the CO gets through. Do you have links to the autopsies you mentioned? Were they planned intentional suicides or just formic acid accidents?

 

[checkouttime]

Formic acid is especially dangerous for someone mucking around as you say. It's still doable but requires a lot of care. You can actually do it with two large plastic bottles, a plastic trash bag, a water pipe and soapy water. As for the generator, the cheaper petrol models do not have filters. They can kill you super fast in an closed space. I'm talking less than five minutes.

We had a generator inside a house as there was no electric on, the type you can run 240V off. The house got incredibly smokey and i had to keep going outside, had windows and doors open. could easily see how this could have become dangerous!!! (wasn't after CTB at the time)

 

[CarbonMonoxide]

could easily see how this could have become dangerous!!! (wasn't after CTB at the time)

If only time travel were possible, right?

 

[Klee]

How will you do it, though?

I am planning to use a well sealed tent and charcoal briquettes. Many people have lost their lives this way by accident, so I fail to see it can be difficult to achieve.
I did a lot of research during lockdown and decided this was the only way I could fall asleep fairly peacefully, and have things be somewhat the way I wanted them.

 

[rancho]

I am planning to use a well sealed tent and charcoal briquettes. Many people have lost their lives this way by accident, so I fail to see it can be difficult to achieve.
I did a lot of research during lockdown and decided this was the only way I could fall asleep fairly peacefully, and have things be somewhat the way I wanted them.

It does sound peaceful...............I haven't looked deep into it but it seems like having hot charcoal in a tent would be pretty dangerous in terms of a fire, though? Have you heard much about that?

Have you thought about a genertor?

 

[ilovenightmares]

What's the info about heat from the charcoal method?
I've heard about people needing to leave their car/bathroom/tent because the heat became a bit unbearable, this really concerns me because of the stuff I've heard about brain damage too?

 

[Klee]

It does sound peaceful...............I haven't looked deep into it but it seems like having hot charcoal in a tent would be pretty dangerous in terms of a fire, though? Have you heard much about that?

Have you thought about a genertor?

The highest level of CO is released after the fire, flames and most of the heat have died out. This is how people innocently become caught out - they bring what they think is a "cooled" bbq into the entrance to their tent, not realising that this is when the most CO is being released into the space.
I don't know anything about generators personally, but I'm quite sure it's possible that way, too.

 

[checkouttime]

If only time travel were possible, right?

Hell yeah!!! Although live was pretty good back then!

I must admit it was really smoky and obviously smelled a lot of petrol,even with the doors open. I can't remember exactly but may of had a bit of a headache.although the generator was very noisy, especially in an empty house!!!!!!

 

[My_name_is_Luka]

If someone can give advices about how to choose the generator..
I've looked at some models on amazon, but the technical datasheets do not seem to write the CO emission, if there is a protection from CO or en engine that reduces the emission. It seems a bit tricky to buy something without knowing if the emission will be enough