Method STOP spreading misinformation about the storage of SN

[Amumu]

Every month on SaSU, I see someone say the shelf-life of SN is short, probably because it's indicated on their bottles.

Please stop saying that.

It could lead to the premature suicide of some people involuntarily because they could be afraid they won't have any method available soon.

According to the PPH, it doesn't work that way. Properly stored, the shelf-life of SN is almost infinite.

Quote : "There are no specific concerns with the disposal of any unused nitrite, and the shelf life of properly stored salt is almost infinite."

Thanks.

 

[Sslsh]

Exactly. It's just salt folks. Storing it in the bottle it came with should be enough for it to last for years.

 

[LenkaX]

But it is said that it should be stored under 25 degrees (of Celsius). Now at the location that I live, we have currently about 30 degrees in our flat.

 

[Anonymous_A]

Every bit of information on here is taken, nitpicked and regurgitated. Kinda like Chinese wispers, at some point the info people mention becomes trash.

In all honesty nobody's got the knowledge, bar a basic search, to be able to comment. Since idk if the people who created the sticky's on SN are even around now.

The best thing is just the sticky. If you really want to die, just try it according to the instructions. If it doesn't work, then you either fucked up..or have the wrong SN.

There's not any real info, that's 100% factual, or mention of when/if SN expires or wether if SN if exposed o air, changes to sodium nitrate

Buy the correct SN, don't open it unless your gonna actually use it. If your worried then just test it via blood/aqua test. Follow the guide and there shouldn't be no problem.

 

[Amumu]

But it is said that it should be stored under 25 degrees (of Celsius). Now at the location that I live, we have currently about 30 degrees in our flat.

Yes, that is written on the bottle. In the PPH, they say "at room temperature".

SN only loses its form over 300 °C.

The providers give extremely strict limits because SN isn't supposed to be used to ctb.

Just test your SN with your blood and read the PPH.

There's not any real info, that's 100% factual, or mention of when/if SN expires or wether if SN if exposed o air, changes to sodium nitrate

Second misinformation in a thread about stopping misinformation, congratulations.

There is real info. SN has almost an infinite shelf life when properly stored, and when exposed to air, SN changes to sodium nitrate.

Again, just test your SN with your blood and read the PPH.

 

[Anonymous_A]

Second misinformation in a thread about stopping misinformation, congratulations.

Fight me. ;)

 

[Goodbye710]

Thank you.

Also, N has a shelf life around 20 years properly stored!

Degrades 0.5% a year if my memory is right.

 

[TheYounger]

For sure. It's the same thing with SA! I've had a 30g bottle of it sitting in 100+ degree weather and it still hasn't exploded!

 

[Meditation guide]

Every month on SaSU, I see someone say the shelf-life of SN is short, probably because it's indicated on their bottles.

Please stop saying that.

It could lead to the premature suicide of some people involuntarily because they could be afraid they won't have any method available soon.

According to the PPH, it doesn't work that way. Properly stored, the shelf-life of SN is almost infinite.

Quote : "There are no specific concerns with the disposal of any unused nitrite, and the shelf life of properly stored salt is almost infinite."

Thanks.

This is a great thread @Amumu. I was wondering about this and it's a big relief to know it will store indefinitely in a sealed bottle.

 

[Mizuri]

But it is said that it should be stored under 25 degrees (of Celsius). Now at the location that I live, we have currently about 30 degrees in our flat.

I'm sure that there is a place in any flat where the temperature is around 20-25 degrees all of the time. Something like a wardrobe or a stash under a bed. Basically, as long as you don't keep your SN bottle "in the open air" in the room, somewhere at the shelf, you'll be fine.

 

[UKscotty]

SN is not going anywhere. It's widely used in food. As long as Amazon keep selling, it will remain easy to get.

 

[Insomniac]

Thank you so much for this info. I'm honestly confused as to wether or not I should increase the dose of my SN since it's been almost 3 years since I got it... hearing that it's still good is reassuring but I'm still debating on wether or not I should take 30mg instead of 15 :/

 

[Amumu]

Thank you so much for this info. I'm honestly confused as to wether or not I should increase the dose of my SN since it's been almost 3 years since I got it... hearing that it's still good is reassuring but I'm still debating on wether or not I should take 30mg instead of 15 :/

Hello,

I think you should test it and you shouldn't take 30 mg.

Take care.

 

[Insomniac]

you shouldn't take 30 mg.

but why not? the risk is that if I survive, my parents will disown me (for having attempted suicide) and I'll end up in the street. That's why I can't afford any chance of survival

 

[UterEntonaur]

Properly stored, the shelf-life of SN is almost infinite.

Whilst I totally agree with your post....

I think a lot of the misinformation comes from the fact that unless you're buying a "sealed by the manufacturer" bottle, the SN you buy elsewhere has probably been repackaged by the "seller", and therefore the manufacturers seal has already been broken (most sellers will buy larger SN bottles/bags and break them up into into smaller bottles for sale/more profit).

Whilst there's obvious evidence in regards to the shelf-life of SN, there's less accuracy when it's been handled/opened by a 3rd party, which is why I tell everyone to test their SN before usage (no matter the source) and to have a backup plan if the test fails

 

[Life_and_Death]

I think you should test it and you shouldn't take 30 mg.

lets take the blood test because i dont know enough nor do i want to get into the mathematics of the aquarium test. but if it does work, it would be roughly to same idea only until the strip turns pink.
if one is that concerned couldnt they take some blood and if they add a bit and say it didnt turn brown, couldnt you slowly add more and more until it does and then say it took the amount plus half more of the amount to turn brown couldnt you times the original number by .5 and then add that to it?

im just asking because ive seen it frequent where people say "idk if its still good so i doubled it".

 

[Amumu]

but why not? the risk is that if I survive, my parents will disown me (for having attempted suicide) and I'll end up in the street. That's why I can't afford any chance of survival

Because taking more is useless, it will just make you more uncomfortable

Whilst I totally agree with your post....

I think a lot of the misinformation comes from the fact that unless you're buying a "sealed by the manufacturer" bottle, the SN you buy elsewhere has probably been repackaged by the "seller", and therefore the manufacturers seal has already been broken (most sellers will buy larger SN bottles/bags and break them up into into smaller bottles for sale/more profit).

Whilst there's obvious evidence in regards to the shelf-life of SN, there's less accuracy when it's been handled/opened by a 3rd party, which is why I tell everyone to test their SN before usage (no matter the source) and to have a backup plan if the test fails

Mmh ok. But I haven't seen anyone complain about useless SN because of time passing by so far. Maybe I'm wrong.
Anyway, sealing it yourself with a vacuum sealer would do the job.

lets take the blood test because i dont know enough nor do i want to get into the mathematics of the aquarium test. but if it does work, it would be roughly to same idea only until the strip turns pink.
if one is that concerned couldnt they take some blood and if they add a bit and say it didnt turn brown, couldnt you slowly add more and more until it does and then say it took the amount plus half more of the amount to turn brown couldnt you times the original number by .5 and then add that to it?

im just asking because ive seen it frequent where people say "idk if its still good so i doubled it".

The blood test is fine

 

[Life_and_Death]

The blood test is fine

i dont think you understood the question

 

[Amumu]

Fight me. ;)

 

[Insomniac]

Whilst I totally agree with your post....

I think a lot of the misinformation comes from the fact that unless you're buying a "sealed by the manufacturer" bottle, the SN you buy elsewhere has probably been repackaged by the "seller", and therefore the manufacturers seal has already been broken (most sellers will buy larger SN bottles/bags and break them up into into smaller bottles for sale/more profit).

Whilst there's obvious evidence in regards to the shelf-life of SN, there's less accuracy when it's been handled/opened by a 3rd party, which is why I tell everyone to test their SN before usage (no matter the source) and to have a backup plan if the test fails

Do you know if Loudwolf repackage their SN?

 

[UterEntonaur]

Do you know if Loudwolf repackage their SN?

LW has really good reviews, because they're a legitimate brand that sells lots of different chemicals, so they know how to bottle/pack their products.

But generally for any brand; a tub/container should have a "ring" seal around the cap (the same way that drink bottles have a "ring" that breaks once it's been opened), and an foil seal inside that covers the opening to protect it from air.

Regardless.... some repackers use ring/seals (they come free with the empty bottles that you can buy from ebay), so it's not a substitute for testing, as that's the only way you'll know the real purity/usability of your SN

 

[Amumu]

I bump my old thread for the newest ones

 

[douteiful]

There is real info. SN has almost an infinite shelf life when properly stored, and when exposed to air, SN changes to sodium nitrate.

Could you link me to this information? My Sodium Nitrite comes in a sealed bag and once it's opened to test it I don't know what to do because as a bag I can't close it again. Would a closed bottle suffice? How much air are we talking about? Does it need a complete vacuum if possible?

 

[rxleep]

Could you link me to this information? My Sodium Nitrite comes in a sealed bag and once it's opened to test it I don't know what to do because as a bag I can't close it again. Would a closed bottle suffice? How much air are we talking about? Does it need a complete vacuum if possible?

The stuff I ordered appears like it will come in a bag too. All I hear about is bottles I worried that I got scammed if it isn't in a bottle. Also haven't figured out how to do the blood test yet.

 

[Lifessocruel]

Just out of interest once the SN is mixed into water how long do you have to drink it before it loses it's potency?

 

[Circles]

Thank You. I'm sorry to pop up an old thread of yours and I hope you don't mind. But I keep seeing people asking how long sn lasts and it's driving me nuts. And after seeing your post I never thought that people might feel rushed to do if they think it's going to be expired. Just saw this thread just now and that's what made me search this again:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/received-my-sn-today-and-help-me-how-should-i-store-it.77086/

 

[miserableforever]

Every month on SaSU, I see someone say the shelf-life of SN is short, probably because it's indicated on their bottles.

Please stop saying that.

It could lead to the premature suicide of some people involuntarily because they could be afraid they won't have any method available soon.

According to the PPH, it doesn't work that way. Properly stored, the shelf-life of SN is almost infinite.

Quote : "There are no specific concerns with the disposal of any unused nitrite, and the shelf life of properly stored salt is almost infinite."

Thanks.

I'm not sure if what you said is true, but i very much appreciate you bringing this up. Definitely important.

 

[Amumu]

I'm not sure if what you said is true, but i very much appreciate you bringing this up. Definitely important.

Believing in what is said in the PPH is up to people indeed.

As far as I am concerned I still think it's a reference, despite Exit's flaws.

 

[Circles]

Believing in what is said in the PPH is up to people indeed.

As far as I am concerned I still think it's a reference, despite Exit's flaws.

I found a thread and it's post #4 where there's a picture of a PPH page that says that it's infinite:

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/will-everything-for-sn-still-work.72063/#post-1307950

But now you got me curious like where did they get their references and how sure are they? I remember seeing one member saying in another thread that since sn is essentially a salt and salt lasts a long time then they said sn could also. But they didn't have any references and now I'm starting to wonder myself. I also remember finding a thread where someone posted a military statement saying sn lasted decades but I can't find it. Fuck I wish I could research this more without my eye problems.

Round and round we go.

 

[Circles]

Apologies yet again for bringing this up Amumu. Out of curiosity have you or anyone else seen if any PPH past or present ones have any references or bibliography or any kind about this subject? And even though the new PPH isn't out yet could they have any updated references perhaps?