still can't shake the fear of hell

[wildflowers1996]

I just want to ctb but I keep having thoughts like "what if the devil is tricking you into doing this and you're going to hell"

there are Christians who claim there is historical evidence for the Resurrection and this is proof of the Christian god
there are apologists who make arguments that it is rational to believe in God

I just don't know what to think

 

[ultrasharpy123456]

I think god created hell because he was kinda bored and wanted to torture people I think (hell's not real, god isn't real, etc etc)

 

[Dingusguy]

I don't think anyone can tell you what to think, but I understand the sentiment of being afraid of hell, if it does exist is a truly horrifying thought.

That being said, I suppose the most important thing is to weigh what you believe in, personally I don't think anything comes after death. I think it's probably just endless nothing. And while that isn't a pleasant thought either, at least I won't be alive to experience it, I will be dead so I can't want for anything. And that IS a pleasant thought to me.

So I guess what I am trying to say is, you need to make up with yourself what you believe. Or weigh the options and pick the least shit one.

 

[reclaimedbynature]

Try reading up on NDEs, they're a huge source of comfort - and might help put some of these qualms to rest.

Hopefully this might help OP.

Here's a word by word response to a similar question answered by someone whose had several NDES (Near Death Experiences):

I had multiple NDEs as a child and a couple as an adult. I also was trapped in religion for quite some time. I was afraid of "god" even though I had experienced nothing but love and warmth and welcome. People told me I had been tricked, and that I was a fool for not seeing that, etc.

Here are my answers to you based on having both met the Divine Being (as I call it, because of the baggage attached to the word 'god'), and having lived decades in fear-fueled religion. You must ultimately make your own decision of what you believe.

You did not "sin". There is no such thing as "sin" because to "sin" is to offend a 'god'. Typically, a very specific god. I completely don't believe that god exists. I believe the only higher power that exists is the one that I met in the afterlife. And that DB (Divine Being) is love. It is the literal personification of love. The DB is not less loving than you are; it is MORE loving than you are. Than I am. Than anyone is here. You and I both know that the "punishment" that is supposedly meted out by "god" is anything at all besides loving.

There is nothing to forgive. To forgive is to grant a pardon for an OFFENSE. You are flawed. I am flawed. All humans are flawed. But to be flawed is not the same thing as being evil. I can have a plate with a chip out of the bottom and still eat off of the top of it. It's not EVIL, it's merely flawed. The DB made you, you do not offend It. It made you flawed. It made all of us flawed. If we are flawed, and the DB is the personification of love Itself... then we were meant to be flawed and we are lovable EXACTLY as we are. Even the worst of us. This is one of the things that makes me so infuriated with religion. This TERROR of LOVE is horrendous. There is nothing to be afraid of. The DB is loving, tender, welcoming, gentle, appreciative, grateful, compassionate, kind... There is a book that describes LOVE as "patient, kind, keeping no record of wrong, etc." That book says, "God is love." That book describes its god and its god is not kind, it is not patient, and it keeps record of wrong. It fails its own description of love. There is no terrifying monster to be afraid of because you made mistakes.

I was shown what I often call "Pocket" realities (I used to call them Pocket Universes, but that's a Thing that has nothing to do with this, lol). In these pockets of 'reality' that are part of the afterlife, you can take part in any activities you desire. You can even visit other people's pocket realities (if they allow it) where you can experience fantasy realms such as Lord of the Rings, Vampire Diaries, Dr. Zhivago... Almost all "fantasy stories" have pocket realities modeled after them. It's a little less "real" seeming than here (there's no real, deep, overwhelming terror because on some level the souls know it's not REAL, real). Still, it's obviously tremendously enjoyable.

In my view, based on my NDEs, there is no reason why you should be afraid of the personification of love, dear friend. What you've done here that bothers you will be seen in the life review, and unless you're like, I dunno... Pol Pot or Stalin, your life review is liable to be pretty short. It's also very Fair and Just. It's not torture, it's just learning. There will be pain, but the pain you will experience is Compassion. You've felt that before in this world, it will be familiar. Then it will be over and you will go Home.

And you will be delighted. I saw many family reunions (so to speak) on the other side as people passed on. Loved ones often cannot even WAIT to see you and they may come before you even go. They gather up like horses at a hay bale as your life course nears a close. All will be well, if my NDEs were really the glimpse of the afterlife that I sincerely, on every level of my being, believe them to be. You're gonna love it!

 

[divinemistress36]

Try reading up on NDEs, they're a huge source of comfort - and might help put some of these qualms to rest.

Hopefully this might help OP.

Here's a word by word response to a similar question answered by someone whose had several NDES (Near Death Experiences):

I had multiple NDEs as a child and a couple as an adult. I also was trapped in religion for quite some time. I was afraid of "god" even though I had experienced nothing but love and warmth and welcome. People told me I had been tricked, and that I was a fool for not seeing that, etc.

Here are my answers to you based on having both met the Divine Being (as I call it, because of the baggage attached to the word 'god'), and having lived decades in fear-fueled religion. You must ultimately make your own decision of what you believe.

You did not "sin". There is no such thing as "sin" because to "sin" is to offend a 'god'. Typically, a very specific god. I completely don't believe that god exists. I believe the only higher power that exists is the one that I met in the afterlife. And that DB (Divine Being) is love. It is the literal personification of love. The DB is not less loving than you are; it is MORE loving than you are. Than I am. Than anyone is here. You and I both know that the "punishment" that is supposedly meted out by "god" is anything at all besides loving.

There is nothing to forgive. To forgive is to grant a pardon for an OFFENSE. You are flawed. I am flawed. All humans are flawed. But to be flawed is not the same thing as being evil. I can have a plate with a chip out of the bottom and still eat off of the top of it. It's not EVIL, it's merely flawed. The DB made you, you do not offend It. It made you flawed. It made all of us flawed. If we are flawed, and the DB is the personification of love Itself... then we were meant to be flawed and we are lovable EXACTLY as we are. Even the worst of us. This is one of the things that makes me so infuriated with religion. This TERROR of LOVE is horrendous. There is nothing to be afraid of. The DB is loving, tender, welcoming, gentle, appreciative, grateful, compassionate, kind... There is a book that describes LOVE as "patient, kind, keeping no record of wrong, etc." That book says, "God is love." That book describes its god and its god is not kind, it is not patient, and it keeps record of wrong. It fails its own description of love. There is no terrifying monster to be afraid of because you made mistakes.

I was shown what I often call "Pocket" realities (I used to call them Pocket Universes, but that's a Thing that has nothing to do with this, lol). In these pockets of 'reality' that are part of the afterlife, you can take part in any activities you desire. You can even visit other people's pocket realities (if they allow it) where you can experience fantasy realms such as Lord of the Rings, Vampire Diaries, Dr. Zhivago... Almost all "fantasy stories" have pocket realities modeled after them. It's a little less "real" seeming than here (there's no real, deep, overwhelming terror because on some level the souls know it's not REAL, real). Still, it's obviously tremendously enjoyable.

In my view, based on my NDEs, there is no reason why you should be afraid of the personification of love, dear friend. What you've done here that bothers you will be seen in the life review, and unless you're like, I dunno... Pol Pot or Stalin, your life review is liable to be pretty short. It's also very Fair and Just. It's not torture, it's just learning. There will be pain, but the pain you will experience is Compassion. You've felt that before in this world, it will be familiar. Then it will be over and you will go Home.

And you will be delighted. I saw many family reunions (so to speak) on the other side as people passed on. Loved ones often cannot even WAIT to see you and they may come before you even go. They gather up like horses at a hay bale as your life course nears a close. All will be well, if my NDEs were really the glimpse of the afterlife that I sincerely, on every level of my being, believe them to be. You're gonna love it!

I love this . I can't wait to go home. Do you feel more depressed being in this physical world since you have had NDEs?

 

[restless.dreams]

I think hell was invented by the church as a way to control people. It's a manipulation tactic to keep people in line through the fear of eternal punishment. There is no evidence that hell actually exists.

It's understandable to worry, but hopefully that eases your mind a bit.

 

[sserafim]

Try reading up on NDEs, they're a huge source of comfort - and might help put some of these qualms to rest.

Hopefully this might help OP.

Here's a word by word response to a similar question answered by someone whose had several NDES (Near Death Experiences):

I had multiple NDEs as a child and a couple as an adult. I also was trapped in religion for quite some time. I was afraid of "god" even though I had experienced nothing but love and warmth and welcome. People told me I had been tricked, and that I was a fool for not seeing that, etc.

Here are my answers to you based on having both met the Divine Being (as I call it, because of the baggage attached to the word 'god'), and having lived decades in fear-fueled religion. You must ultimately make your own decision of what you believe.

You did not "sin". There is no such thing as "sin" because to "sin" is to offend a 'god'. Typically, a very specific god. I completely don't believe that god exists. I believe the only higher power that exists is the one that I met in the afterlife. And that DB (Divine Being) is love. It is the literal personification of love. The DB is not less loving than you are; it is MORE loving than you are. Than I am. Than anyone is here. You and I both know that the "punishment" that is supposedly meted out by "god" is anything at all besides loving.

There is nothing to forgive. To forgive is to grant a pardon for an OFFENSE. You are flawed. I am flawed. All humans are flawed. But to be flawed is not the same thing as being evil. I can have a plate with a chip out of the bottom and still eat off of the top of it. It's not EVIL, it's merely flawed. The DB made you, you do not offend It. It made you flawed. It made all of us flawed. If we are flawed, and the DB is the personification of love Itself... then we were meant to be flawed and we are lovable EXACTLY as we are. Even the worst of us. This is one of the things that makes me so infuriated with religion. This TERROR of LOVE is horrendous. There is nothing to be afraid of. The DB is loving, tender, welcoming, gentle, appreciative, grateful, compassionate, kind... There is a book that describes LOVE as "patient, kind, keeping no record of wrong, etc." That book says, "God is love." That book describes its god and its god is not kind, it is not patient, and it keeps record of wrong. It fails its own description of love. There is no terrifying monster to be afraid of because you made mistakes.

I was shown what I often call "Pocket" realities (I used to call them Pocket Universes, but that's a Thing that has nothing to do with this, lol). In these pockets of 'reality' that are part of the afterlife, you can take part in any activities you desire. You can even visit other people's pocket realities (if they allow it) where you can experience fantasy realms such as Lord of the Rings, Vampire Diaries, Dr. Zhivago... Almost all "fantasy stories" have pocket realities modeled after them. It's a little less "real" seeming than here (there's no real, deep, overwhelming terror because on some level the souls know it's not REAL, real). Still, it's obviously tremendously enjoyable.

In my view, based on my NDEs, there is no reason why you should be afraid of the personification of love, dear friend. What you've done here that bothers you will be seen in the life review, and unless you're like, I dunno... Pol Pot or Stalin, your life review is liable to be pretty short. It's also very Fair and Just. It's not torture, it's just learning. There will be pain, but the pain you will experience is Compassion. You've felt that before in this world, it will be familiar. Then it will be over and you will go Home.

And you will be delighted. I saw many family reunions (so to speak) on the other side as people passed on. Loved ones often cannot even WAIT to see you and they may come before you even go. They gather up like horses at a hay bale as your life course nears a close. All will be well, if my NDEs were really the glimpse of the afterlife that I sincerely, on every level of my being, believe them to be. You're gonna love it!

Can you elaborate on the life review? What exactly is it? What is it like? Do you believe in reincarnation or do people just stay in the afterlife forever?

 

[Rev346]

I think hell was invented by the church as a way to control people. It's a manipulation tactic to keep people in line through the fear of eternal punishment. There is no evidence that hell actually exists.

It's understandable to worry, but hopefully that eases your mind a bit.

My understanding is that he'll was created by the church. Look in the old and new testament and you won't find mention of it. Judaism, which Christianity is based on, does not have a concept of hell.
Alternatively you could always say "this stuff is all made up" and you won't have to worry about it.
Apologies for odd autocorrect, my tablet doesn't recognize some words and I prefer physical keys when typing.

 

[Ampsvx123]

The old testament God is an insult to the divine. Any 'god' who finds maddening joy in circumsitions/sacrifices is an oblivious idol/demon. The true God rules us by his love, not by fear! He is perfect, therefore All light belongs to him, any girl who is one with love - is his cherished bride, and she shall be embraced by him eternally. Yahweh/Allah allow men to keep their wives because they are not worthy of everything there is. They rule by fear - oblivious worthless idols.
The true God has but one promise for all - just and unjust shall have rest, in the end of days when his plans are done, all shall be light.

 

[mtoro998]

We are already in hell whatever is after this cant be worse.

 

[davidtorez]

There is no hell but what we make , just like there is no fate but what we make.

 

[iloverachel]

There is no hell but what we make , just like there is no fate but what we make.

The planet we live on now is hell in my opinion

If there's an actual hell it can't be much worse than the world we are living in

 

[leavingthesoultrap]

Try reading up on NDEs, they're a huge source of comfort - and might help put some of these qualms to rest.

Hopefully this might help OP.

Here's a word by word response to a similar question answered by someone whose had several NDES (Near Death Experiences):

I had multiple NDEs as a child and a couple as an adult. I also was trapped in religion for quite some time. I was afraid of "god" even though I had experienced nothing but love and warmth and welcome. People told me I had been tricked, and that I was a fool for not seeing that, etc.

Here are my answers to you based on having both met the Divine Being (as I call it, because of the baggage attached to the word 'god'), and having lived decades in fear-fueled religion. You must ultimately make your own decision of what you believe.

You did not "sin". There is no such thing as "sin" because to "sin" is to offend a 'god'. Typically, a very specific god. I completely don't believe that god exists. I believe the only higher power that exists is the one that I met in the afterlife. And that DB (Divine Being) is love. It is the literal personification of love. The DB is not less loving than you are; it is MORE loving than you are. Than I am. Than anyone is here. You and I both know that the "punishment" that is supposedly meted out by "god" is anything at all besides loving.

There is nothing to forgive. To forgive is to grant a pardon for an OFFENSE. You are flawed. I am flawed. All humans are flawed. But to be flawed is not the same thing as being evil. I can have a plate with a chip out of the bottom and still eat off of the top of it. It's not EVIL, it's merely flawed. The DB made you, you do not offend It. It made you flawed. It made all of us flawed. If we are flawed, and the DB is the personification of love Itself... then we were meant to be flawed and we are lovable EXACTLY as we are. Even the worst of us. This is one of the things that makes me so infuriated with religion. This TERROR of LOVE is horrendous. There is nothing to be afraid of. The DB is loving, tender, welcoming, gentle, appreciative, grateful, compassionate, kind... There is a book that describes LOVE as "patient, kind, keeping no record of wrong, etc." That book says, "God is love." That book describes its god and its god is not kind, it is not patient, and it keeps record of wrong. It fails its own description of love. There is no terrifying monster to be afraid of because you made mistakes.

I was shown what I often call "Pocket" realities (I used to call them Pocket Universes, but that's a Thing that has nothing to do with this, lol). In these pockets of 'reality' that are part of the afterlife, you can take part in any activities you desire. You can even visit other people's pocket realities (if they allow it) where you can experience fantasy realms such as Lord of the Rings, Vampire Diaries, Dr. Zhivago... Almost all "fantasy stories" have pocket realities modeled after them. It's a little less "real" seeming than here (there's no real, deep, overwhelming terror because on some level the souls know it's not REAL, real). Still, it's obviously tremendously enjoyable.

In my view, based on my NDEs, there is no reason why you should be afraid of the personification of love, dear friend. What you've done here that bothers you will be seen in the life review, and unless you're like, I dunno... Pol Pot or Stalin, your life review is liable to be pretty short. It's also very Fair and Just. It's not torture, it's just learning. There will be pain, but the pain you will experience is Compassion. You've felt that before in this world, it will be familiar. Then it will be over and you will go Home.

And you will be delighted. I saw many family reunions (so to speak) on the other side as people passed on. Loved ones often cannot even WAIT to see you and they may come before you even go. They gather up like horses at a hay bale as your life course nears a close. All will be well, if my NDEs were really the glimpse of the afterlife that I sincerely, on every level of my being, believe them to be. You're gonna love it!

How is possible that you had multiple NDEs?

 

[zzeroo]

I feel the same as you wildflowers, can only hope for the best..

 

[Dark Window]

1) Has anyone ever provided a single shred of evidence for the existence of hell? No.
2) Why should I believe Hell is a more likely possibility for what we experience in the afterlife than any other possibility? I have just as much reason to believe I'll go to a land made of chocolate and candy than I do of going to hell.
3) Hell largely originates from religion, and it has mainly been used as a threat of consequences of not obeying rules. It's seems incredibly obvious that hell is an idea that religious people have used to control people's behaviour.
4) Which "hell" are you referring to? Christian Hell? Muslim hell? All the other hells, underworlds etc that have been threatened. Should you be worried about going to the underworld to be tortured by Hades?

Is an afterlife possible? Sure! But no one has presented a single reason for me to believe the afterlife is anything more than just an imagination. Just like ghosts, demons, goblins, elves etc.

 

[peristala]

I just want to ctb but I keep having thoughts like "what if the devil is tricking you into doing this and you're going to hell"

there are Christians who claim there is historical evidence for the Resurrection and this is proof of the Christian god
there are apologists who make arguments that it is rational to believe in God

I just don't know what to think

I think about that too sometimes, I'm religious, but I was always taught that God is forgiving, and especially if you're not doing well, obviously if you're so depressed that you end your life God will not send you to hell simply for that, because he knows you were in pain and acting on the last thing you knew, you were desperate and not thinking clearly as much as you thought, you're feeling guilty for going to commit but you still do it, God knows and he knows you were hurting so he will forgive. I find it's weird people try to control others by saying they'll go to hell for doing something without knowing much about it in reality, when only God knows the people's true intentions!!!

 

[FuneralCry]

Anything like that is completely fictional to me personally, the only hell is this disgusting evil world where there is unlimited potential for suffering, pain and torture. I find comfort in the thought of ceasing to exist as I believe death to be nothing more than an dreamless and eternal sleep where all is finally forgotten about.

 

[bandigna]

I just want to ctb but I keep having thoughts like "what if the devil is tricking you into doing this and you're going to hell"

there are Christians who claim there is historical evidence for the Resurrection and this is proof of the Christian god
there are apologists who make arguments that it is rational to believe in God

I just don't know what to think

I encoutered Jesus Christ 5 years ago at my lowest Point . I always believed Hes real But i didnt know him . I was thinking a month ago before it happended what If theres really nothing and it Just ends. It was a terrifying thought. But i didnt Turn to him because of that . I Always believed Hes real so at my lowest point i found an App a German App about Jesus . There i wrote someone and Said , how can i come closer to Jesus. He Said , you have to Open your Heart to him. So one night , Not thinking anything i Just wrote in YouTube search : Jesus
Then the Song popped Up: i surrender by hillsong
By the minute 6 i opened my hands in the Air and Said Jesus i Love you , then again but from my Heart . And boom i Had an Encounter. I began to cry for 10minutes, i felt an Love 10 million Times better than any drug. I felt also power flowing trough my Arms .
After that i knew everything with Jesus is real ,everything is real .
In that time after that i became born again and learned that we are all sinners who sinned against god . The bible sais everybody has fallen short of the glory of god. Everybody has sinned.
I began to know how to get saved . That Jesus died for me on the cross so that i dont have to pay for my sins. He went on the cross so that everybody would be saved who accepts the free GIFT of salvation .
We all must die and Go to hell because everybody has sinned . And why are we all sinners because Adam and eve ate from the tree in the garden and so the fall began.
So we all must Go to hell, to the hell god Had prepared Not for men , but for the devil and His angels.
Then, God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten so that whoever believes in him will Not perish but have eternal life.
Jesus is real and he is the creator of everyone . The bible says who searches for god will find god . I can say to everybody killing himself or dying at an old age , try him.
If you tried him and it turns out to be fake you have lost nothing , you have tried it and know now theres nothing . But If it turns out Hes real, you have Won everything .

To get saved from hell you have to be born again you have to accept the forgivness for your sins by what Jesus did for you on the cross . Then when you accept him as your Lord and saviour you have been born again.

 

[divinemistress36]

I want to share some responses from psychic mediums about suicide

 

[Raindancer]

As a Christian, I struggle with this, and I believe hell is real. Many Christians do not understand that just because we believe, does not mean we will not struggle. I believe in the healing power of Jesus and have been healed of stage 3 cancer. Right now I am relying on His strength. It's 4 am and I've been up barely hanging on. It's been a rough week. If you ever want to chat, I am always available.

 

[cosmic-freedom]

I'll take Stephen Hawkins word on it.There is nothing after death.

 

[BardBarrie]

I just want to ctb but I keep having thoughts like "what if the devil is tricking you into doing this and you're going to hell"

there are Christians who claim there is historical evidence for the Resurrection and this is proof of the Christian god
there are apologists who make arguments that it is rational to believe in God

I just don't know what to think

There is absolutely no evidence for any of these religions being true.
Any human who attempts to claim otherwise is full of shit: fact is none of us know what happens after death.

I wouldn't worry about Hell or the Devil etc.

 

[Rhizomorph1]

I just want to ctb but I keep having thoughts like "what if the devil is tricking you into doing this and you're going to hell"

there are Christians who claim there is historical evidence for the Resurrection and this is proof of the Christian god
there are apologists who make arguments that it is rational to believe in God

I just don't know what to think

The Problem of Evil (Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy)

It's logically impossible due to the problem of evil. Thank me later :)

 

[theboy]

Hell does not exist after you die. It is biblical