Help Squeezing the carotid artery seems to do absolutely nothing.

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

As the title suggests, whenever I squeeze my carotid arteries (my thumb pressing upon one side, and both my index and middle fingers upon the other side), nothing happens.
I apply as much pressure as I can without stopping my ability to breathe, hell, my nails have dug into my skin and yet, nothing. My neck is reddened. And absolutely nothing.

Last time I tried this, I remembered feeling relaxed, I could feel the world slipping away. But now? It just...doesn't work.

What am I doing wrong? Is it just a case of 'too little pressure'? Or am I like, missing the carotid artery somehow?

(I've been trying to press just below my jaw, while leaning foward by the way. That's where I can feel a pulse, don't know if this information really helps though.)

 

[Forveleth]

If you are not feeling dizzy, then you are not hitting the correct place. If you cut off the blood supply to your brain you will get fizzy and pass out. Also, you should be able to breathe the whole time. If you are cutting off your windpipe, you are pressing in the wrong place.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

If you are not feeling dizzy, then you are not hitting the correct place. If you cut off the blood supply to your brain you will get fizzy and pass out. Also, you should be able to breathe the whole time. If you are cutting off your windpipe, you are pressing in the wrong place.

I can breathe when I'm doing it.
I'm also pressing down on my pulse. But I'm still not feeling dizzy. Could it be that I'm not actually pressing on the carotid artery and like, pressing somewhere else, somehow?

I'll try also pressing somewhere else on my neck.

(Thanks for the help!)
Update: Tried a different spot. Nothing happened. I have no clue where I'm going wrong anymore. Squeezed just below my neck, tried squeezing below my Adam's apple, nothing is working anymore. Don't feel dizzy. I'm kinda panicking now because this worked once and now it's just...not.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

11:09 (GMT),
I DID IT!

I was indeed pressing the carotid artery, it's just, I think I applied too little pressure.
This time, my vision was going black, it was like black dots everywhere. And when I stopped, my body was shaking.
The method that works best for me is to point your chin up, so that the carotid arteries are more exposed. And then squeeze, upwards so that more force is applied.
Sorry for any typos or if some of this is worded strangely, there's adrenaline running through me right now.
(It felt so fun too!)

Edit, 12:44: When I say I was 'shaking', i was more or so kinda convulsiving, my body itself was going back and fourth, my arms were frozen, and my legs were shaking/twitching.

 

[itsgone2]

Why are you doing this? Practice for fsh? It's interesting that chin up helped.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

Why are you doing this? Practice for fsh? It's interesting that chin up helped.

It's for the ligature strangulation method. I need to know where exactly I should apply the ligature and how to know if I'm going unconscious or not.

You don't actually need that much pressure; it seems anyway.
I can get it spot on now.

Although, I wonder why, in the ligature strangulation mega thread, they don't tell you this. They tell you to 'lean forward', but that doesn't actually seem to work.
(Idk, maybe it's just something to do with me being severely underweight.)

 

[curiousbeing]

It's for the ligature strangulation method. I need to know where exactly I should apply the ligature and how to know if I'm going unconscious or not.

You don't actually need that much pressure; it seems anyway.
I can get it spot on now.

Although, I wonder why, in the ligature strangulation mega thread, they don't tell you this. They tell you to 'lean forward', but that doesn't actually seem to work.
(Idk, maybe it's just something to do with me being severely underweight.)

I am trying exactly this method (either ligature strangulation or tourniquet method combined with drowning). I am severely underweight as well.


Should I press on my pulse? Could you please elaborate more? Can you press on carotid arteries every time you want?

If you are going to use a cord or something to do it, how will you make sure you can tighten the cord without hurting trachea? No matter what I do, I hit trachea. Should I use something as a padding in both sides of throat?

11:09 (GMT),
I DID IT!

I was indeed pressing the carotid artery, it's just, I think I applied too little pressure.
This time, my vision was going black, it was like black dots everywhere. And when I stopped, my body was shaking.
The method that works best for me is to point your chin up, so that the carotid arteries are more exposed. And then squeeze, upwards so that more force is applied.
Sorry for any typos or if some of this is worded strangely, there's adrenaline running through me right now.
(It felt so fun too!)

Edit, 12:44: When I say I was 'shaking', i was more or so kinda convulsiving, my body itself was going back and fourth, my arms were frozen, and my legs were shaking/twitching.

You may accidentally hit carotid sinus near jaw and collapse instead of hitting carotid arteries. I read this in Wikipedia that sinus is located there. It dramatically lowers blood pressure if pressed on


And also, did you use your thumbs to press on pulse both sides of neck while chin up?


Sorry for many questions, and thanks so much if you reply to my messages.

 

[RadioGaga]

If you are not feeling dizzy, then you are not hitting the correct place. If you cut off the blood supply to your brain you will get fizzy and pass out. Also, you should be able to breathe the whole time. If you are cutting off your windpipe, you are pressing in the wrong place.

Then where on your neck do you press??? :(.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

I am trying exactly this method (either ligature strangulation or tourniquet method combined with drowning). I am severely underweight as well.


Should I press on my pulse? Could you please elaborate more? Can you press on carotid arteries every time you want?

Yes, you need press on your pulse. You'll be able to find your 'sweet spot' extremely quickly after a while.
I press on one side of my neck with my thumb, and use my index and middle fingers to press on the other side. (Like I said before, I suggest looking up and then finding your pulse before pressing on it.)

If you are going to use a cord or something to do it, how will you make sure you can tighten the cord without hurting trachea? No matter what I do, I hit trachea. Should I use something as a padding in both sides of throat?

I suggest using padding, anything will work. A t-shirt, a rag. It doesn't matter, as long as it nulls some of the pain. With enough padding, you'll still able to breathe. (There'll still be a pressure on your trachea though, atlest from my tests.)

Sorry for many questions, and thanks so much if you reply to my messages.

It's fine, don't worry. (I don't exactly know if this info will help, but I hope it does.
Sorry if there's typos or anything, I woke up like, two hours ago lmao.)

 

[curiousbeing]

With enough padding, you'll still able to breathe. (There'll still be a pressure on your trachea though, atlest from my tests.)

Thanks so much for your replies!!!!

Even if I can't find my sweet spot, I think I can still use a ligature to compress my arteries. No matter what, ligature should be able to press on arteries.

Where do you put ligature? Above or below Adam's apple? Or it doesn't matter where you put it? I think what matters is to tighten ligature as hard as possible?


When you press on your pulses, do you apply strong force? or just light pressing will compress them?
Will you use a cord as a ligature or an elastic band with simple fixator? Such bands are used for drawing blood from veins, but they aren't strong enough to compress arteries. I guess they may be just enough for carotid arteries, if too much force isn't needed.

Their advantage is that they are wide, thin and soft. Unlike sharp razor thin cords or cables, they don't hurt skin so much.



Here is one of them.
I tagged you in a post, please, take a look at it. It seems some people made a simple device to compress arteries without hurting trachea.

Is it possible to compress carotid arteries without hurting trachea by using a cord?

I compress my neck by tightening a cord and knotting, from sides, front and back. No matter where, when I apply pressure I inevitably hit trachea and start feeling bad. How can I avoid trachea? I understand that it's very dangerous to mess with carotid arteries. I may end up alive with brain...

sanctioned-suicide.net

There'll still be a pressure on your trachea though, atlest from my tests.

I believe if I can find out more about that thing and make it, i can pass out quite peacefully.

 

[Jello Biafra]

The sweet spot is the bifurcation of the interior and exterior carotid arteries - not just anywhere on the carotid.

If you look at a diagram, it's that little bulb where the carotid comes up from the bottom of your neck and branches off to the exterior and interior arteries.

This is where the pulse is the strongest because it's like a traffic jam. There is a big difference in the strength of the heartbeat. Since everyone's anatomy is different, you need to feel around for it, but look at a diagram first. Mine is just to the side of my adam's apple, about an inch under my jaw. Try pointing your chin in the air to thrust it out a little bit.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

The sweet spot is the bifurcation of the interior and exterior carotid arteries - not just anywhere on the carotid.

If you look at a diagram, it's that little bulb where the carotid comes up from the bottom of your neck and branches off to the exterior and interior arteries.

This is where the pulse is the strongest because it's like a traffic jam. There is a big difference in the strength of the heartbeat. Since everyone's anatomy is different, you need to feel around for it, but look at a diagram first. Mine is just to the side of my adam's apple, about an inch under my jaw. Try pointing your chin in the air to thrust it out a little bit.

I've been trying this for a while and I've ran into a few problems.
The main one is that I just can't seem to apply enough pressure, let alone maintain it. I've seen others say 'you don't need that much pressure'. So, I'm assuming that I'm not pressing my 'sweet spot', but at the same exact time, I can't find another sweet spot.
Whenever I do press, too, I also encounter the issue of accidentally compressing my airways, preventing me from breathing.

One thing I wish to ask, is what kind of grip should I use? Should I continue to press my index and middle fingers against one side and use my thumb to press on the other side of my neck?

Also, for the record, I'm pretty sure I might be doing this wrong. I'm pressing behind my Adam's Apple. Where I can feel a strong pulse. Am I missing somehow?

The absolute closet I got to unconsciousness was when my vision started going dark for around a second or two. I can usually feel the blood rushing through my arteries too.

Any tips, anyone?
Regardless, I'll continue to try. It might just be tiredness kicking in.
I hope that I find my sweet point soon enough.

 

[DoAnythingMore]

I'm very sorry that I don't have any tips or advice, but I'd like to thank you for making this thread. I know it'll be of great help when I practice CTB.

Also I'm a little uneducated, but is what you're trying to do a way to CTB without blocking the "windpipe"? Would this be less painful way of CTB as compared to partial hanging? I'm a little scared of hanging as I know it will hurt a lot and I won't be able to breathe, causing me to panic.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

UPDATE: 18:50

Okay, yeah, it just turns out that the sweet spot is just extremely specific. Atleast from what I've tried, it needs to be completely spot on. (I nearly fell unconscious a few seconds ago after a few minutes of trying.)
However, at the same time, you really don't need that much pressure at all. Just a light press (atleast from my experiences) is enough.
I suggest using both hands, using your index and middle fingers, and press upon both sides of the neck. Basically, just act like you're scanning for your arteries, and press. Like I said before, you'll barely need pressure.

I'm very sorry that I don't have any tips or advice, but I'd like to thank you for making this thread. I know it'll be of great help when I practice CTB.

It's fine, don't worry about not having tips or anything. Honestly, you should probably be thanking the others in the thread lol.

Also I'm a little uneducated, but is what you're trying to do a way to CTB without blocking the "windpipe"? Would this be less painful way of CTB as compared to partial hanging? I'm a little scared of hanging as I know it will hurt a lot and I won't be able to breathe, causing me to panic.

To be honest, I'm not that worried about accidentally compressing my windpipe when I finally CTB. I don't think you should panic that much. Since, hopefully, if all goes well, you'll be out in a few seconds. Although, at the same time, I could very well be wrong.

I wonder, if with enough padding, would you be be able to completely stop the ligature material from compressing your wind pipe while still shutting your carotid artery? Covering the front of your neck but not the sides?
Or would it be better to cover the sides with padding, so that the ligature never touches your Adam's Apple but pressure is still applied to your carotid artery?

Maybe I'm just spitballing here. Idk.

 

[DoAnythingMore]

I wonder, if with enough padding, would you be be able to completely stop the ligature material from compressing your wind pipe while still shutting your carotid artery? Covering the front of your neck but not the sides?

This is what I've been thinking as well. For my partial hanging I think I'm going to get some towels or just some random cloth to the "frontside" of my neck to hopefully not squeeze my windpipe as much.

And yeah you're right. If all goes well everything should be over in a few seconds. I just wish to make my last moments as painless as possible.

Sorry to ask and not look this up myself, but how do you plan on executing your CTB? Are you going to use a belt or how will you keep your arteries shut and make sure the "device" you're going to use stays in the right place? I'm very uneducated on ligature strangulation, but from what I've read on this thread it might be a better option to partial hanging.

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

Sorry to ask and not look this up myself, but how do you plan on executing your CTB? Are you going to use a belt or how will you keep your arteries shut and make sure the "device" you're going to use stays in the right place? I'm very uneducated on ligature strangulation, but from what I've read on this thread it might be a better option to partial hanging.

It might be a strange choice, but I'm personally going to use two to three zipties. I've seen an autopsy where a guy did exactly that, three zipties on different parts of his neck; when I was researching.

Even if pain does come, it'll be over quick, no? Or maybe adrenaline might dull the pain? I hope, anyway. I just wish for it to be painless and as quick as possible. (Sometimes, I wish I had a gun instead, ngl.)

Also, good luck with your attempt, man. Hope it all goes well for you when you finally do it. ✌

 

[DoAnythingMore]

It might be a strange choice, but I'm personally going to use two to three zipties. I've seen an autopsy where a guy did exactly that, three zipties on different parts of his neck; when I was researching.

Even if pain does come, it'll be over quick, no? Or maybe adrenaline might dull the pain? I hope, anyway. I just wish for it to be painless and as quick as possible. (Sometimes, I wish I had a gun instead, ngl.)

Also, good luck with your attempt, man. Hope it all goes well for you when you finally do it. ✌

Zipties sound very interesting. I guess they have to be very carefully placed as to not slip out of the right place?

And yeah adrenaline can help ease the pain and even if not, assuming nothing fails, it'll all be over quickly. I fear that the adrenaline just won't hit fast enough and there still being at least some amount of pain but hey, I guess beggars can't be choosers. I have a fear of "time dilation" or seeming like time slows down when I'm going to CTB and it longing the duration of the pain or just the CTB process being uncomfortable in general, as it's most likely going to be.

I had an opportunity to buy a 9mm gun months ago and I regret not buying it. Now unfortunately my "gun-plug" is no longer available so I'm left with these options.

We both want our CTB to be painless as possible. It's sad that the dead can't talk to the living so either one of us could tell eachother what worked and what to do differently if it was painful lol.

I also want to wish you all the luck and success in your CTB. I hope it will be comfortable with no pain and you'll be in a better place. Good luck to you too! <3

 

[Kurwa-_-jeden]

Guys, I have one last question. It's kinda silly.

But could you go unconscious by just holding your carotid artery shut or no?
I usually, almost instinctively let go before I go unconscious. (Sometimes I panic.)

 

[Jello Biafra]

I've been trying this for a while and I've ran into a few problems.
The main one is that I just can't seem to apply enough pressure, let alone maintain it. I've seen others say 'you don't need that much pressure'. So, I'm assuming that I'm not pressing my 'sweet spot', but at the same exact time, I can't find another sweet spot.
Whenever I do press, too, I also encounter the issue of accidentally compressing my airways, preventing me from breathing.

One thing I wish to ask, is what kind of grip should I use? Should I continue to press my index and middle fingers against one side and use my thumb to press on the other side of my neck?

Also, for the record, I'm pretty sure I might be doing this wrong. I'm pressing behind my Adam's Apple. Where I can feel a strong pulse. Am I missing somehow?

The absolute closet I got to unconsciousness was when my vision started going dark for around a second or two. I can usually feel the blood rushing through my arteries too.

Any tips, anyone?
Regardless, I'll continue to try. It might just be tiredness kicking in.
I hope that I find my sweet point soon enough.

Try a search for the pass out game on the Internet. Use your palms with your fingers behind the back of your neck.

Just for reference, and I honestly don't know how true this is, but it sounds about right - I've read that with hanging/night night/liature, the neck must be compressed by 20% to occlude the carotid arteries.

If you are pressing so hard that you are choking yourself, you are in the wrong spot - you should have no discomfort on your windpipe. Stop immediately and re-adjust.

Watch some Youtube slow demonstrations on the rear naked choke in martial arts. Or watch demonstrations of pass out game for where they are putting their palms. Search medical websites for "palpating the carotid artery".

Notice how there are no choking sensations present. It might take some time, but you need to find the sweet spot if you expect these types of methods to be painless.

 

[RoseGirl]

My neck is pretty strong and i think my arteries are buried under more muscle then for most people. The only time i get an affect from pressing them is after i crouch down and hyper ventilate till I'm super tingly. see how its buried in yhere

 

[curiousbeing]

Try a search for the pass out game on the Internet. Use your palms with your fingers behind the back of your neck.

Just for reference, and I honestly don't know how true this is, but it sounds about right - I've read that with hanging/night night/liature, the neck must be compressed by 20% to occlude the carotid arteries.

If you are pressing so hard that you are choking yourself, you are in the wrong spot - you should have no discomfort on your windpipe. Stop immediately and re-adjust.

Watch some Youtube slow demonstrations on the rear naked choke in martial arts. Or watch demonstrations of pass out game for where they are putting their palms. Search medical websites for "palpating the carotid artery".

Notice how there are no choking sensations present. It might take some time, but you need to find the sweet spot if you expect these types of methods to be painless.

Thank you so much for this reply

The only time i get an affect from pressing them is after i crouch down and hyper ventilate till I'm super tingly. see how its buried in yhere

I need to try this. hyperventilating may help me. thanks for this reply