Sorry for the amateur question, but there are miles of threads and I just want to know if 2 bottles will do the job (definitive CTB) for a 300 LBer

[MegaGordo]

I know Oban..Is it more sweet than peety? I think Oban is the sweeter Scotch and Laphraoig was the peetier. Been years. Angels crying on the tongue. Haha. I'd better pop a mint first before they make a mess in there. I don't want to be charged with angelicide

 

[OldDrummer]

I know Oban..Is it more sweet than peety? I think Oban is the sweeter Scotch and Laphraoig was the peetier. Been years. Angels crying on the tongue. Haha. I'd better pop a mint first before they make a mess in there. I don't want to be charged with angelicide

I'm not really a whiskey guy, I generally dislike the taste, but Oban was lovely. I couldn't use my tongue as "purdy" as you to describe the taste!

 

[OldDrummer]

Yeah alcohol consumption can definitely make N less potent. But I seriously question why 2 still doesn't suffice? Has there been any recorded faiure from 12+ g of N? Jesus Christ that is a lot.

I think I read it in the PpH that a handful of cases where death didn't occur for over 12 hours were due to alcohol and opiate addiction, which made the liver super-efficient at processing large amounts of toxins in the first place.

Again, non-discovery is the key. Most failures of N documented here were due to early discovery (i.e. within the first 12 hours).

Most of the data is collected from legal organisations such as Exit/Pegasos. Bear in mind that they are despatching the already frail, cancerous and elderly.

Even in the Louis Theroux documentary about MAID in CA, the dude was in his 70's, thin AF, legally obtained 15g of powered N and took 8 hours to die, with a doctor, who was a family friend, expressing concerns after 5 hours that the dude might regain consciousness after many hours of agonal breathing.

As a relatively healthy, 260 pound hard drinking 50-something year old, it's either three bottles of N or a whale-harpoon to the skull for me. I'd prefer the former option.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Even in the Louis Theroux documentary about MAID in CA, the dude was in his 70's, thin AF, legally obtained 15g of powered N and took 8 hours to die, with a doctor, who was a family friend, expressing concerns after 5 hours that the dude might regain consciousness after many hours of agonal breathing.

OMG. Because he'd been on morphine?

 

[OldDrummer]

OMG. Because he'd been on morphine?

Never thought of that, but you nailed it. Must of been why.

 

[Cathy Ames]

Never thought of that, but you nailed it. Must of been why.

They didn't explain it? They just presented it without comment? Ugh.

 

[OldDrummer]

They didn't explain it? They just presented it without comment? Ugh.

In fairness, they never even mentioned it was N he had, but it would have been obvious to anyone on here that that's what it was.

They were reporting on the wider human story and not just the chemical interactions. Can't blame them for that.

 

[BrokenBliss]

The larger point is, however, that it's more about the amount of time it takes than whether it succeeds or not. The second bottle is either to hasten things along or a security blanket for possible instances of tolerance. Even then, it's more about making sure you're not going to be found before it finishes the job.

Trying to find where I saw it, but a third bottle is kind of overkill and increases risk of vomiting. I'll keep looking and will update my post if I find the info.

 

[MegaGordo]

Dr. N has been quoted as saying, though there are no 100% guarantees, he personally never saw anyone survive drinking 6 mg Nembutal.

Dr. N has been quoted as saying, though there are no 100% guarantees, he personally never saw anyone survive drinking 6 mg Nembutal.

One needs to factor in things like long-term Benzo use, which apparently will effect the potency of the Nembutal's action in a negative fashion.

 

[GentleJerk]

2 is plenty, even for a large alcoholic.

Even in the Louis Theroux documentary about MAID in CA, the dude was in his 70's, thin AF, legally obtained 15g of powered N and took 8 hours to die, with a doctor, who was a family friend, expressing concerns after 5 hours that the dude might regain consciousness after many hours of agonal breathing.

They don't use N. They use either secobarbital or a mixture of propofol and neuromuscular blockers.

 

[MegaGordo]

I think I read it in the PpH that a handful of cases where death didn't occur for over 12 hours were due to alcohol and opiate addiction, which made the liver super-efficient at processing large amounts of toxins in the first place.

Again, non-discovery is the key. Most failures of N documented here were due to early discovery (i.e. within the first 12 hours).

Most of the data is collected from legal organisations such as Exit/Pegasos. Bear in mind that they are despatching the already frail, cancerous and elderly.

Even in the Louis Theroux documentary about MAID in CA, the dude was in his 70's, thin AF, legally obtained 15g of powered N and took 8 hours to die, with a doctor, who was a family friend, expressing concerns after 5 hours that the dude might regain consciousness after many hours of agonal breathing.

As a relatively healthy, 260 pound hard drinking 50-something year old, it's either three bottles of N or a whale-harpoon to the skull for me. I'd prefer the former option.

Check this out about artificial sweeteners (e.g., Splenda) and how they block the liver's ability to detox and cleanse. It might behoove a person to cool it on these artificial toxic sweeteners, b/c POSSIBLY they could conceivably (to me anyway) impede the proper functioning of N. And I sure wouldn't want that to happen!
www.foxnews.com/health/sugar-substitutes-interfere-liver-ability-detoxify
But, hmmm...if failure to ctb due to opiates was based on super-efficient liver function, then maybe we SHOULD be chowing down on Splenda, as it imepedes the liver's function to detox. Okay, Splenda and N, my new regien. Splenda and how it started is fucking freaky. Jim Marrs in POPULATION CONTROL chapter on deadly sweeteners, wrote, I think, that it was developed as a neurotoxin and was a military nerve agent? Rumsfeld was involved, all sorts of shit. Book is on archive.org for free. Trippy shit.

 

[hankbank3928]

The larger point is, however, that it's more about the amount of time it takes than whether it succeeds or not. The second bottle is either to hasten things along or a security blanket for possible instances of tolerance. Even then, it's more about making sure you're not going to be found before it finishes the job.

Trying to find where I saw it, but a third bottle is kind of overkill and increases risk of vomiting. I'll keep looking and will update my post if I find the info.

What is the recommended amount of time for the N to do it's job?

 

[Zeus35]

Hey guys,


I'll be blunt; I'm a fat ass. Even a fatter asser than I was last week. So miserable to see what I've turned into. I went from Atkins to fatkins.

Anyway, I'm concerned that 2 bottles of vet N won't do the job for such a lard ass such as myself. This isn't fear-mongering, it's an honest concern. Does anyone have the facts in regards to people who have more "X's" in their underwear than Zsa Zsa Gabor? Thx in advance.

Where did you buy your bottles from?

 

[bennydiazapine]

I think I read it in the PpH that a handful of cases where death didn't occur for over 12 hours were due to alcohol and opiate addiction, which made the liver super-efficient at processing large amounts of toxins in the first place.

Again, non-discovery is the key. Most failures of N documented here were due to early discovery (i.e. within the first 12 hours).

Most of the data is collected from legal organisations such as Exit/Pegasos. Bear in mind that they are despatching the already frail, cancerous and elderly.

Even in the Louis Theroux documentary about MAID in CA, the dude was in his 70's, thin AF, legally obtained 15g of powered N and took 8 hours to die, with a doctor, who was a family friend, expressing concerns after 5 hours that the dude might regain consciousness after many hours of agonal breathing.

As a relatively healthy, 260 pound hard drinking 50-something year old, it's either three bottles of N or a whale-harpoon to the skull for me. I'd prefer the former option.

I watched this yesterday and had some questions.

I use opiates daily and plan to use them before I use SN to CTB. I posted a thread asking about this but haven't received any responses - If I use opiates before using SN does this affect the effeciacy of the SN?

 

[LostAtSea]

Will definitely be the end. I wouldn't worry if you have two bottles.