Method Soma or GBL?

[BabyCamus]

What do you think would be better for CTB - Soma or GBL? Would take supplementary drugs

 

[vaguebluur]

What's soma?

 

[never mind me]

I don't know what soma is, but GBL sounds like a bad idea for CTB purposes. Its effect is very similar to alcohol, so I assume it will be as hard as it is with alcohol to achieve a lethal overdose

 

[vaguebluur]

I don't know what soma is, but GBL sounds like a bad idea for CTB purposes. Its effect is very similar to alcohol, so I assume it will be as hard as it is with alcohol to achieve a lethal overdose

I died from 60 ml of GBL last year

 

[BabyCamus]

What's soma?

Carisoprodol it's a muscle relaxant/pain reliever that acts like a barbiturate.

 

[vaguebluur]

I looked into soma, as far as highly lethal drugs GBL beats all but nembutal
65 ml can kill up to 7 people

 

[sparkle]

How does GBL compare to 4BDO? I have 100mL of this arriving shortly. Supposedly tastes like crap, how did you manage to keep 60mL down?

 

[BabyCamus]

I looked into soma, as far as highly lethal drugs GBL beats all but nembutal
65 ml can kill up to 7 people

Is it better than -zene or -pyne opioids like Protonitazene? I would use something like that but don't know where to buy it. LE are tough on it I think so not many vendors in UK.

 

[vaguebluur]

How does GBL compare to 4BDO? I have 100mL of this arriving shortly. Supposedly tastes like crap, how did you manage to keep 60mL down?

Is it better than -zene or -pyne opioids like Protonitazene? I would use something like that but don't know where to buy it. LE are tough on it I think so not many vendors in UK.

Is it better than -zene or -pyne opioids like Protonitazene? I would use something like that but don't know where to buy it. LE are tough on it I think so not many vendors in UK.

Imho yes it's significantly better for ctb, opioid overdoses are super painful and I felt 0 pain when I used GBL I simply downed it then woke up 12 hours later in resus, I can't remember anything in-between.

How does GBL compare to 4BDO? I have 100mL of this arriving shortly. Supposedly tastes like crap, how did you manage to keep 60mL down?

BDO is a pre cursor for GBL it's essentially a dirtier version of gbl yet still drinkable and effective just don't drink neat and you'll be fine. I downed my GBL neat just before I died and it was like drinking 99% ethanol

How does GBL compare to 4BDO? I have 100mL of this arriving shortly. Supposedly tastes like crap, how did you manage to keep 60mL down?

BDO is a pre cursor for GBL it's essentially a dirtier version of gbl yet still drinkable and effective just don't drink neat and you'll be fine. I downed my GBL neat just before I died and it was like drinking 99% ethanol

 

[Sparx]

Imho yes it's significantly better for ctb, opioid overdoses are super painful

Dammit I was under the impression opioid OD wasn't painful. Aren't they painkillers?

What if they're combined with benzos and/or barbiturates? I was planning to take protonitazene along with bromazolam & carisoprodol.

 

[vaguebluur]

Dammit I was under the impression opioid OD wasn't painful. Aren't they painkillers?

What if they're combined with benzos and/or barbiturates? I was planning to take protonitazene along with bromazolam & carisoprodol.

they are painkillers yes but the but they cause liver failure and extreme cramps which is severly painful, ive ended up verdosing on strong prewscription opiods like oxys and oramorph many time and led there in agony pleading with god, but im not saying it wont work its just not going to be painless.

 

[Vizzy]

I don't know what soma is, but GBL sounds like a bad idea for CTB purposes. Its effect is very similar to alcohol, so I assume it will be as hard as it is with alcohol to achieve a lethal overdose

Do you know what's the lethal dose of cbl?

 

[Kasumi]

Do you know what's the lethal dose of cbl?

didn't find any concrete numbers but I think about 10ml are recommended, 20ml at the very most.
it's supposed to be combined with at least a lot of alcohol or preferably fast-acting benzos.
see the GHB megathread, 1ml of GBL is equivalent to about 1.66g of GHB

 

[Vizzy]

didn't find any concrete numbers but I think about 10ml are recommended, 20ml at the very most.
it's supposed to be combined with at least a lot of alcohol or preferably fast-acting benzos.
see the GHB megathread, 1ml of GBL is equivalent to about 1.66g of GHB

I read those threads and comments, no one can give a exact dosage, it is scary to take overkill dosage because it makes you vomit and some people have wake up from GBL overdose

My problem is I am a big guy, 6'4, 120 kgs and healthy so I am scared I will wake up

 

[Kasumi]

oh well in that case you'd probs go with 20ml, tbh something around 5ml should probably work for most people ~55kg so I suppose most people take 10ml to be safe
but that's just things I heard, also couldn't find concrete dosage

Let's look at what I could find tho:

The ratio of normal dose to deadly dose of GHB is as low as 5:1 to 8:1,
additionally the same source measures a concentration of 500mg/L GHB in blood plasma as deadly and another mentioned about 400mg/L in people who died of GHB OD.
The normal dose of GHB is about 0.5mL - 1.5mL

Let's say you take a high dose of 2mL GHB, that should be slightly more than 2g, 2000mg / 5L of blood and you're at 400mg/L, so you might still survive that.
The first source also estimated ~100mg/L GHB as the "normal" concentration after a "normal" dose of GHB.
Now 0.5mL GHB would perfectly translate to 100mg/L blood but we don't know well everything is absorbed by the body and how much is actually in your bloodstream.

That said, those numbers should give you an idea.

If we just take 10 times the normal dose of 1mL, so we take 10mL of GHB, that should easily be enough to kill a person.
Finally you gotta consider that 1mL of GBL corresponds to about 1.66g of GHB and while 1mL of GHB also is more than 1g, ~1.1-1.2g that still shows that with 10mL of GBL you get a pretty bit more than 10g GHB, so like I'd say 10g GBL are a pretty reliable bet for something like 50-60kg.

So yea, given you're at 120kg, 20g should totally do.


If you do find some more accurate information tho, please let me know.

 

[Vizzy]

oh well in that case you'd probs go with 20ml, tbh something around 5ml should probably work for most people ~55kg so I suppose most people take 10ml to be safe
but that's just things I heard, also couldn't find concrete dosage

Let's look at what I could find tho:

The ratio of normal dose to deadly dose of GHB is as low as 5:1 to 8:1,
additionally the same source measures a concentration of 500mg/L GHB in blood plasma as deadly and another mentioned about 400mg/L in people who died of GHB OD.
The normal dose of GHB is about 0.5mL - 1.5mL

Let's say you take a high dose of 2mL GHB, that should be slightly more than 2g, 2000mg / 5L of blood and you're at 400mg/L, so you might still survive that.
The first source also estimated ~100mg/L GHB as the "normal" concentration after a "normal" dose of GHB.
Now 0.5mL GHB would perfectly translate to 100mg/L blood but we don't know well everything is absorbed by the body and how much is actually in your bloodstream.

That said, those numbers should give you an idea.

If we just take 10 times the normal dose of 1mL, so we take 10mL of GHB, that should easily be enough to kill a person.
Finally you gotta consider that 1mL of GBL corresponds to about 1.66g of GHB and while 1mL of GHB also is more than 1g, ~1.1-1.2g that still shows that with 10mL of GBL you get a pretty bit more than 10g GHB, so like I'd say 10g GBL are a pretty reliable bet for something like 50-60kg.

So yea, given you're at 120kg, 20g should totally do.


If you do find some more accurate information tho, please let me know.

I will look into it, thank you

Because of my structure lol, I just stay away from drug methods

 

[10years2long]

Dammit I was under the impression opioid OD wasn't painful. Aren't they painkillers?

What if they're combined with benzos and/or barbiturates? I was planning to take protonitazene along with bromazolam & carisoprodol.

This is where I'm looking. Got sn awhile ago. Changing plans. Thanking meto /bromazolam + clonazopam + sleepers(barbs)?+ carisopol?

SN replaced with zenes + oxycodone + get fast acting barb?

Dammit I was under the impression opioid OD wasn't painful. Aren't they painkillers?

What if they're combined with benzos and/or barbiturates? I was planning to take protonitazene along with bromazolam & carisoprodol.

This is where I'm looking. Got sn awhile ago. Changing plans. Thanking meto /bromazolam + clonazopam + sleepers(barbs)?+ carisopol?

SN replaced with zenes + oxycodone + ge fast acting barb?