Sodium Nitrite vs Exit Bag: Which method is best?

[ozymandias1]

What is the best method accessible to most people? SN and EB seem to be most renowned on here. And what is the best method for me in the UK?

 

[Agon321]

I don't know what's best for you, you have to decide for yourself.

For example, I consider inert gas to be the best method, because a well-configured set is painless. It's just that after a short time, the person loses consciousness.
But I don't have the energy to make my own set, because it's a bit time-consuming.
There's also a risk that the person who is saved before he dies will have brain damage.

So for these reasons, I chose SN.

You have to read the different threads on this forum and decide for yourself. Each method has its advantages and disadvantages.
It's a completely individual matter.

 

[J&L383]

I agree, they both have advantages and disadvantages. I like the exit bag, but I'm very meticulous and think I can plan this out so that it will work. But SN it's simpler in a way and if properly done is almost sure to work as well. In both cases you want to make sure you're not "discovered" until you're dead. In the UK it really depends what you can easily get your hands on.

 

[ozymandias1]

In the UK it really depends what you can easily get your hands on.

That's what I'm asking about.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Exitbag/SCBA Mask (inert gas) is probably more peaceful than SN and it doesn't require any medication/fasting. The major difference is inert gas costs more money than SN and needs some technical knowledge. Whatever is best for you is ultimately up 2 you. There's a lot of info about both methods here on the forum.

 

[ozymandias1]

Exitbag/SCBA Mask (inert gas) is probably more peaceful than SN

Thanks. Do you have any sources for that?

 

[opheliaoveragain]

Thanks. Do you have any sources for that?

No one can hand hold you through this path if it is your choice/give you sources directly for things. There is the Inert Gas Megathread which outlines everything pretty clearly. Most of the components for this method are easily bought, I believe often the hardest thing to get is the gas itself, in the correct amount etc. (someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's not my chosen method) - I will personally be going with SN.

There have been several recent SN accounts that were as peaceful as one could hope it to be. You need to go into it assuming you're gonna puke, your heart rate is gonna pick up, but all of this is, hypothetically if you choose SN, is temporary. Biggest skews towards failure include being interrupted or found (even those brought to a hospital, many don't survive since they have to figure out what you took first, and SN is pretty fast) or taking too much of a drug that makes you sleepy with too much time before the SN, resulting in the person falling asleep, wasting meds, and wasn't able to complete protocol.

 

[Unspoken7612]

Skirting fairly close to the legal line here.

Inert gas asphyxiation is a fairly rapid and painless death if done properly (unconsciousness within a few breaths), but requires some skill, the ability to acquire sufficient gas, and seems to have greater risk of brain damage if you fail.

SN is easier to get hold of, apparently low risk in the event of failure (although not everyone who is treated will survive), but quite unpleasant to consume and death is relatively uncomfortable, taking upwards of ten minutes.

 

[ozymandias1]

No one can hand hold you through this path if it is your choice/give you sources directly for things.

If you assert something, you should be prepared to provide a source. Maybe you don't have a source and that's fine. But actually admonishing people for asking for a source is stupid, counterproductive, and ugly behaviour. You actually think it's a good idea to just say whatever you want without providing any evidence when asked for it? That's how misinformation and disinformation gets spread.

 

[opheliaoveragain]

If you assert something, you should be prepared to provide a source. Maybe you don't have a source and that's fine. But actually admonishing people for asking for a source is stupid, counterproductive, and ugly behaviour. You actually think it's a good idea to just say whatever you want without providing any evidence when asked for it? That's how misinformation and disinformation gets spread.

Check your tone. It's a hard site rule to not directly provide sources on public threads. The megathread outlines everything someone needs for the Inert Gas method. Your vitriol is unnecessary.

 

[ozymandias1]

but quite unpleasant to consume and death is relatively uncomfortable, taking upwards of ten minutes.

In what way is it unpleasant and uncomfortable?

Check your tone.

Begins off by condescending me and then gets annoyed when I do it back.

It's a hard site rule to not directly provide sources on public threads.

Maybe it is. I didn't know. I just checked the rules again and it does say not to post sources of "ANY" kind which is kinda weird but okay. But that was no reason for you to condescend me.

 

[Unspoken7612]

I think there's confusion on what Ozymandias meant by "source", which is "a source of facts", but Ophelia interpreted as "a source of deadly supplies".

It's absolutely fine to post links to prove a fact, it's just not allowed to post links or names of sites selling lethal means.

In what way is it unpleasant and uncomfortable?

Common "side effects" include severe nausea, vomiting, shortness of breath, and tachycardia.

 

[ozymandias1]

It's absolutely fine to post links to prove a fact, it's just not allowed to post links or names of sites selling lethal means.

Yeah, I was just talking to a mod about it.

Common "side effects" include severe nausea, vomiting, shortness of breath, and tachycardia.

Damn. So not that peaceful then.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

Thanks. Do you have any sources for that

There you should find a lot of info regarding this method.

Exit bag and inert gas megathread

Exit Bag and Inert Gas Basics —A very, very long post, I know, but I feel like I've fielded a lot of questions about this, so I figured I'd spell out everything I know. Others on the forum should please add to this thread whatever reliable technical information they feel is appropriate for...

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GasMonkey Setup [Nitrogen SCBA]

🐵 GasMonkey Setup 🐵 [Nitrogen SCBA] Positive Pressure Self-Contained Breathing Apparatus **images have been edited to ensure anonymity** Front view Side view Back view Pressure gauge Lung Demand Valve and Mask Bluetooth pulse oximeter Cylinder attachment Cylinder's connection...

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[skatergirl]

I agree, they both have advantages and disadvantages. I like the exit bag, but I'm very meticulous and think I can plan this out so that it will work. But SN it's simpler in a way and if properly done is almost sure to work as well. In both cases you want to make sure you're not "discovered" until you're dead. In the UK it really depends what you can easily get your hands on.

Do you think this regime will work: 6pm: a light dinner sleep throughout night next morning at 7:30am paracetamol 9am 25mg of SN in 50 ml of water. Will I die

No one can hand hold you through this path if it is your choice/give you sources directly for things. There is the Inert Gas Megathread which outlines everything pretty clearly. Most of the components for this method are easily bought, I believe often the hardest thing to get is the gas itself, in the correct amount etc. (someone correct me if I'm wrong, it's not my chosen method) - I will personally be going with SN.

There have been several recent SN accounts that were as peaceful as one could hope it to be. You need to go into it assuming you're gonna puke, your heart rate is gonna pick up, but all of this is, hypothetically if you choose SN, is temporary. Biggest skews towards failure include being interrupted or found (even those brought to a hospital, many don't survive since they have to figure out what you took first, and SN is pretty fast) or taking too much of a drug that makes you sleepy with too much time before the SN, resulting in the person falling asleep, wasting meds, and wasn't able to complete protocol.

I have no medication only paracetamol and SN do you think it will work for me

Skirting fairly close to the legal line here.

Inert gas asphyxiation is a fairly rapid and painless death if done properly (unconsciousness within a few breaths), but requires some skill, the ability to acquire sufficient gas, and seems to have greater risk of brain damage if you fail.

SN is easier to get hold of, apparently low risk in the event of failure (although not everyone who is treated will survive), but quite unpleasant to consume and death is relatively uncomfortable, taking upwards of ten minutes.

How do you know it hurts?