Sodium nitrite questions

[Arak]

Posting this in a different thread.

1) The origin of SN as a method for suicide. It's Philip Nitschke, isn't it ? No other reputable sources that have been backing up this one ?

I checked with an older version of the PPEH in which 10 gr was recommended. Soemone here stated that Nitschke first suggested 5 gr, which I'm quite willing to believe.

2) Cimetidine/ranitidine is supposed to increase gastric PH. Supposedly, this increase the absorption of the SN.
Actually, why ? A few sources on the internet suggest that higher PH increases gastric emptying. True ? What else does ? How effective is cimetidine and is it variable ? Presumably SN is absorbed int he small intestine, and the faster the better. Why the huge variability of onset and time till death ?

3) the amount of water it is dissolved in. Does it matter ?

Surviving high dose SN attempts can lead to organ damage, specifically brain damage.

 

[Redt2go]

Here's a thread with a bunch of info including links to other threads

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-reliability-and-peacefulness.8049/

 

[NorthAmericanQc]

Here's a thread with a bunch of info including links to other threads

https://sanctioned-suicide.net/threads/sn-reliability-and-peacefulness.8049/

It's OP own thread. Sorry. Lol

 

[John434]

I personally am going to do what Xerxes did and that's apply it to my skin after mixing it with DMSO and then drink the rest, 20g of Sodium Nitrite mixed with 100ml of DMSO,

 

[Shu]

Eheh

 

[Talvikki]

No, Philip Nitschke isn't the origin of sn as a method of suicide.
Laatste wil in the Netherlands were the first to recommend sa and sn for a peaceful death.

I remember Philip Nitschke was skeptical about sa and sn at first.

After it became known that many people have died after taking sn or sa, Philip Nitschke recommended this methode in the PPH.

DUTCH

Coöperatie Laatste wil

Vanuit de coöperatie Laatste Wil informeren we je graag over de manieren om eigen regie te voeren over het levenseinde.

laatstewil.nu

ENGLISH

English | Coöperatie Laatste wil

Cooperative Last Will accommodates people who favour the concept of assisted suicide and self-euthanasia without intervention of doctors and want to make ea ...

laatstewil.nu

 

[Shu]

No, Philip Nitschke isn't the origin of sn as a method of suicide.
Laatste wil in the Netherlands were the first to recommend sa and sn for a peaceful death.

I remember Philip Nitschke was skeptical about sa and sn at first.

After it became known that many people have died after taking sn or sa, Philip Nitschke recommended this methode in the PPH.

DUTCH

Coöperatie Laatste wil

Vanuit de coöperatie Laatste Wil informeren we je graag over de manieren om eigen regie te voeren over het levenseinde.

laatstewil.nu

ENGLISH

English | Coöperatie Laatste wil

Cooperative Last Will accommodates people who favour the concept of assisted suicide and self-euthanasia without intervention of doctors and want to make ea ...

laatstewil.nu

Wonder how that forum is and if they have different information in regards to the sn method

 

[Talvikki]

Wonder how that forum is and if they have different information in regards to the sn method

Coöperatie laatste wil says about SN that it's a peaceful death but they advise SA because there is no antidote.


I can't send a link because it's a paid version but this is a Google translate:

Coöperatie laatste wil:
Sodium nitrite is a low-dose preservative is used in the food industry (eg sausage making). Bee sufficient intake (25 grams, if body weight > 100 kilos 35 grams) it is deadly. Sodium nitrite changes hemoglobin (= protein in red blood cells, responsible for oxygen transport) causing the oxygen transport disturbed and insufficient oxygen reaches the cells of body organs. It gives nausea and sometimes vomiting. Coma and death follow fairly quickly (1 to 3 hours?) after ingestion. It colors the skin blue. However, there is an antidote. Ambulances are equipped with this.

 

[Shu]

Coöperatie laatste wil says about SN that it's a peaceful death but they advise SA because there is no antidote.


I can't send a link because it's a paid version but this is a Google translate:

Coöperatie laatste wil:
Sodium nitrite is a low-dose preservative is used in the food industry (eg sausage making). Bee sufficient intake (25 grams, if body weight > 100 kilos 35 grams) it is deadly. Sodium nitrite changes hemoglobin (= protein in red blood cells, responsible for oxygen transport) causing the oxygen transport disturbed and insufficient oxygen reaches the cells of body organs. It gives nausea and sometimes vomiting. Coma and death follow fairly quickly (1 to 3 hours?) after ingestion. It colors the skin bluish. However, there is an antidote. Ambulances are equipped with this.

Thanks for taking time to translate and send this message. Do they provide a certain regimen or medication to take?

 

[Talvikki]

Same as PPH. 25 grams SN above 100 kilos 35 grams. The only difference with PPH is that Laatste wil recommends domperidone instead of metoclopramide.
But there both fine.

 

[Shu]

Same as PPH. 25 grams SN above 100 kilos 35 grams. The only difference with PPH is that Laatste wil recommends domperidone instead of metoclopramide.
But there both fine.

They do not mention for antacid or h2?