SuicidalTiger

SuicidalTiger

Life is the night, I seek the warmth of the sun.
Apr 18, 2024
109
I am 26, and I have autism. Socialisation is exceedingly hard, everything is a battle, everything is peacocking, everything is a test of how much better people are then each other, even here on SaSu

Are you a pretty, very-social girl? How about a social, well-off boy? I hate talking to people, I hate them all, their games, their lies, their bullshit, double-meanings, I hate it all. But because I was cursed and placed into this world, I have to talk to them, I have to play their games, it is wired into my brain.

I will be dead soon, when I turn 27 the timer has begun for me to die, but before I do, I want to destroy any social bridges I have, I want to scuttle any lifeboats and just enjoy my own company.

Why is everything a fucking game to people?
Does anyone else share similar sentiment
 
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ijustwishtodie

ijustwishtodie

death will be my ultimate bliss
Oct 29, 2023
5,214
I relate so much. Life wasn't meant for me because of my autism. Oh and also, I do see what you mean on this site too... it's a shame that it happens here but unfortunately it had to because it seems to be human nature for some reason. Trying to compete with the crowd sounds exhausting and I'd rather just jump to the part where I'm dead instead
 
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Lost in a Dream

Lost in a Dream

He/him - Metal head
Feb 22, 2020
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I'm not completely certain if I have autism, but it's possible. I'm sick of playing society's stupid games too after playing them my whole life just to exist and achieve the bare minimum for survival.

I sometimes wish I died at 27. I've been suicidal since long before that and here I am at 31 still stuck. If you still end up being alive that long, I hope it's for a very good reason and not 5 more years of misery like I've experienced. Whether you change your mind or not, I hope you make the best decision for yourself you possibly can
 
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SuicidalTiger

SuicidalTiger

Life is the night, I seek the warmth of the sun.
Apr 18, 2024
109
I relate so much. Life wasn't meant for me because of my autism. Oh and also, I do see what you mean on this site too... it's a shame that it happens here but unfortunately it had to because it seems to be human nature for some reason. Trying to compete with the crowd sounds exhausting and I'd rather just jump to the part where I'm dead instead
This place should be free from that nonsense, but it is not... Human's are just hard-wired to fuck eachother over non stop... The hedgehog dilema is honest.


I'm not completely certain if I have autism, but it's possible. I'm sick of playing society's stupid games too after playing them my whole life just to exist and achieve the bare minimum for survival.

I sometimes wish I died at 27. I've been suicidal since long before that and here I am at 31 still stuck. If you still end up being alive that long, I hope it's for a very good reason and not 5 more years of misery like I've experienced. Whether you change your mind or not, I hope you make the best decision for yourself you possibly can
I intent to take from this, I will not live past 27. Thank you for sharing, I appreciate it.
 
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indecision

indecision

New Member
May 18, 2024
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I actually hate the way people treat it as if its some trend on social media to be antisocial or over all not being able to socialize. I personally do not have autism but i struggle with socializing, i get how u feel as if it all was treated as a joke, atp noone takes me seriously anymore and i cba to talk about it anymore with family or others. Even when ive made myself do things that include having to interact ive hated them so much i loathe the interactions ive had. Oh and then the people around me act as if it wasnt that hard after all to bring myself together, fuck you? I could go on for ages just weeping about the regret and things i couldve said or done different or not done at all. I find it hard to even just ignore it anymore. Im failing college and just see all the doors closing on me while being filled with regret of not being able to take opporunities just because im too fucking scared to. Its like this disgusting hopelessness i cant even escape. Its as if i want someone to be here but at the same time i cant stand the thought, you know? I dont even like people anymore at this point. Everytime ive geniuenly opened up about something it gets forgotten or js used against me. Most people ive been friends with have been in a pit like i am and then later when they get better they use me as the excuse of being the way they were and start calling me mentally ill and a loser as some joke or insult since they feel better and like some higher person. They blame me for their thoughts and doings as if i was being a bad influence while i was really just there or maybe i did something wrong? I dont even know at this point. Ive been alone for years now with no actual connection with someone.
 
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lostinwoe

lostinwoe

woefully bound to death.
Mar 1, 2024
154
while I'm not diagnosed, I can relate a lot I was never meant for society ever since I was born, I've never fit in with others. it baffles me on how my parents never saw how different I am from others

maybe if I got treated when I was younger things would be different, who knows tho it doesn't matter anymore in the end were all gonna die
 
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eatantz

eatantz

I luv dolls
Nov 4, 2023
560
Autism feels like a curse. I always think about what my life could of been if i wasn't cursed to be an outcast.
 
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foreverfalling

foreverfalling

Experienced
Jul 22, 2022
256
Yes everything people do feels like bullshit that I don't understand. Life would be so much simpler and more manageable without all the bullshit. I feel you on everything being a game, it's all so tiring. Like people don't go to nice restaurants to eat good food. They do it for the instagram photos and to brag to other people. I tried maintaining a friendship on food before. Whilst we both wanted to try restaurants, it seemed the reason we went was very different, very inauthentic. I try not to deal with it anymore, and so I don't have any friends or people I talk to now. Being alone isn't nice, but it's better than dealing with all the bullshit. I just hope I can successfully CTB when I really can't take it anymore.
 
SuicidalTiger

SuicidalTiger

Life is the night, I seek the warmth of the sun.
Apr 18, 2024
109
Yes everything people do feels like bullshit that I don't understand. Life would be so much simpler and more manageable without all the bullshit. I feel you on everything being a game, it's all so tiring. Like people don't go to nice restaurants to eat good food. They do it for the instagram photos and to brag to other people. I tried maintaining a friendship on food before. Whilst we both wanted to try restaurants, it seemed the reason we went was very different, very inauthentic. I try not to deal with it anymore, and so I don't have any friends or people I talk to now. Being alone isn't nice, but it's better than dealing with all the bullshit. I just hope I can successfully CTB when I really can't take it anymore.
The best thing to do is not play this game... It is to go full hermit, and fuck everyone off... However, how does one do that? We are all so reliant on each other, each of us is reliant on monsters... This cope about there "being good people out there somewhere" is slop, peddled by people who try and hugbox for their saviour complex... Everyone is good so long as you're social, pretty, 'worth-it' and most importantly; not autistic!

Autism feels like a curse. I always think about what my life could of been if i wasn't cursed to be an outcast.
It is infuriating! Something we didn't choose caused so much pain and suffering, and even here people want to start shit with you for errors. It sickens me.

while I'm not diagnosed, I can relate a lot I was never meant for society ever since I was born, I've never fit in with others. it baffles me on how my parents never saw how different I am from others

maybe if I got treated when I was younger things would be different, who knows tho it doesn't matter anymore in the end were all gonna die
Did they give an excuse to why they didn't or where they just negligent?
 
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cowboypants

cowboypants

From milkyway
May 7, 2024
402
Same fellow 27yo here. don't want to turn 28 man I don't even feel my age appropriately
 
SuicidalTiger

SuicidalTiger

Life is the night, I seek the warmth of the sun.
Apr 18, 2024
109
I actually hate the way people treat it as if its some trend on social media to be antisocial or over all not being able to socialize. I personally do not have autism but i struggle with socializing, i get how u feel as if it all was treated as a joke, atp noone takes me seriously anymore and i cba to talk about it anymore with family or others. Even when ive made myself do things that include having to interact ive hated them so much i loathe the interactions ive had. Oh and then the people around me act as if it wasnt that hard after all to bring myself together, fuck you? I could go on for ages just weeping about the regret and things i couldve said or done different or not done at all. I find it hard to even just ignore it anymore. Im failing college and just see all the doors closing on me while being filled with regret of not being able to take opporunities just because im too fucking scared to. Its like this disgusting hopelessness i cant even escape. Its as if i want someone to be here but at the same time i cant stand the thought, you know? I dont even like people anymore at this point. Everytime ive geniuenly opened up about something it gets forgotten or js used against me. Most people ive been friends with have been in a pit like i am and then later when they get better they use me as the excuse of being the way they were and start calling me mentally ill and a loser as some joke or insult since they feel better and like some higher person. They blame me for their thoughts and doings as if i was being a bad influence while i was really just there or maybe i did something wrong? I dont even know at this point. Ive been alone for years now with no actual connection with someone.
I am sorry this happened to you
 
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cosmic_traveler

cosmic_traveler

Eternal Spirit Experiencing a Human Moment
Dec 23, 2023
311
I am 26, and I have autism. Socialisation is exceedingly hard, everything is a battle, everything is peacocking, everything is a test of how much better people are then each other, even here on SaSu

Are you a pretty, very-social girl? How about a social, well-off boy? I hate talking to people, I hate them all, their games, their lies, their bullshit, double-meanings, I hate it all. But because I was cursed and placed into this world, I have to talk to them, I have to play their games, it is wired into my brain.

I will be dead soon, when I turn 27 the timer has begun for me to die, but before I do, I want to destroy any social bridges I have, I want to scuttle any lifeboats and just enjoy my own company.

Why is everything a fucking game to people?
Does anyone else share similar sentiment
We can certainly understand the "peacocking". We have DID so we've never been "ourself", instead we've always been a projection of what we believe humans will accept.

We've "recreated" ourself 5 times now, we're 39 presently. Every time our facade falls apart we lose all our relationships. But we do miss having them. We especially miss the children of our lost friends, they were our best friends and we know they really loved their funkle (fun uncle).

We thought that we would enjoy our own company. We talk to ourself constantly and when we ask ourself about it we claim that at least we listen to us which is more than we can say for the humans we've met. We still wish we had someone else who understands us, but we've lost hope.

Sorry you're in so much pain. Be well on your journey.
 
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Beyond_Repair

Beyond_Repair

Disheartened Ghost
Oct 27, 2023
452
i agree everything just feels superficial, competitive, bs.

I suspect I may have some form of autism but was never diagnosed. I was diagnosed with ADHD though, which it's common for girls to be misdiagnosed with that. I'm 27 now and planning to join the 27 club before my birthday
 
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KuriGohan&Kamehameha

KuriGohan&Kamehameha

想死不能 - 想活不能
Nov 23, 2020
1,740
Being autistic is so insanely difficult, and the adversity of the autistic experience is always downplayed especially in recent years, where the condition has become a hot media topic. It always felt like I was cursed from the get go. Trying to mimic and peacock complex social behaviours is HARD. You aren't alone in this respect, though I know it isn't much consolation.

I'm a couple years younger than you, and a woman, but I really relate to being unable to 'play the game' like neurotypicals can. For most of my life, I didn't know I was autistic (feeling like I was an alien and a freak ever since early childhood but never knowing why) and my family hid the fact that I was going to be diagnosed from me. Whenever I hit the age where I was allowed to make my own autonomous medical decisions, I was diagnosed very quickly because the signs were all incredibly obvious, but by that point the damage had already been done.

Ever since I got the diagnosis all those years ago, and even before, I tried really hard to work on my social skills. I have consistently put myself out there, and been in numerous uncomfortable situations to try and make myself less autistic and mask it. Instead, I am even more mute and tired than before, despite making some strides with my social abilities. I am sure other autistic people can relate, adult socialising is full of various minefields and expectations and it is really hard to play the game.

Being awkward or shy is cute as a kid, but when we grow up we lose so much kindness from others when we don't develop socially. It's as if people expect the disability to vanish once you hit a certain age. It's such bullshit, especially when you make consistent efforts but will never pass as anything close to resembling normal. The expectations of adulthood, especially corporate roleplay, are really difficult for an autistic person to manage and few people realize this and give us leeway.

Me, you, and the others in this thread are all at the age or approaching the age where we're surrounded by marriage, kids, and career talk. Which I don't know about anyone else, but so much of this is stressful and undesirable to me. As a woman, I am judged very harshly by my appearance and mannerisms, but sensory issues make wearing makeup or certain clothing a torturous experience for me. It doesn't help that I also have what people call an "autism face". I put effort into my clothing and I have a unique sense of style, but I'm still ugly and have a strange, disabled gait.

People really lack respect for me because of my autistic behaviours. I'm sure you all can also relate to this. No matter how much I try to conceal it, people always can tell that something is off about me. Other women and men usually don't find me attractive and throughout my life I have never been anyone's first choice, so I often attract partners who are volatile and hate me because I am disabled and struggling, because they want to be the one being taken care of, desiring a confident, strong woman. I am always taken advantage of because I am visibly autistic and meek, and I hate it.

I've had a part time job for several years which I like, and people there treat me with respect even though I make a lot of mistakes and am weird. My contract will expire soon and I want to try to see if I can manage working full time when I'm eligible because they will work around my health problems.

However, despite working there for years and being knowledgeable about many different aspects of the company and working in various teams, always offering to help others and pull my weight, I highly doubt I am going to be hired because there are many cheerful, conventionally attractive, neurotypical, "normal" people applying for the role. Other people told me this several times, if it's between me and a neurotypical, able bodied person applying for jobs, they will not pick me.

Despite many governments and organisations saying they value diversity and want to hire disabled people, but this could not be further from the truth. Many times I have applied for jobs where the employer is legally required to interview disabled candidates if they meet the specifications/qualifications. Unsurprisingly, I did not get an interview for any of those jobs. Because I am a slow, dumb, and ugly autistic woman, and not a quirky savant genius, I might as well be worthless.

I agree with you 100% how grating and soul crushing the constant competitiveness of social interactions is. It's hard to find genuine and understanding people in this world. I've spent years trying to develop my social skills and did make some friends (albeit they're usually autistic too or don't fit social norms in some way) though I will never be considered anyone's best friend or their first choice. Typically I am nothing more than an acquaintance and don't get to have deep or close connections with anyone. So many times I have made friends or been interested in talking to someone only for them to ditch me for someone who was cooler or more interesting. Everything is competitive and superficial, somehow.

I wish that all of us autistic people didn't have to feel like an alien species.
 
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untothedepths

untothedepths

ego death, then death
Mar 20, 2023
593
I do, OP. I'm a female on the autism spectrum myself. and though I guess I mask "well enough", its been so hard for me to relate to others. I miss jokes, am easily manipulated, mocked without noticing, cannot detect lies as others do, and more. I am not at all good with people, even though I only try to be polite and fair at all times. People don't like me for really petty reasons too, such as "I sound weird" and "I'm awkward". Its rough knowing that I have to learn from others what others say about me, and it hurts. Its like you never know when that knife is going to come at you...when you think everything is fine. I don't routinely judge others, especially based on things they cannot control or superficial things, so its painful it happens to me.

...recently too, its been very hard for me in in IRL. I have been in constant arguments on and off with the people around me. I am lead to feel like Im the crazy even though I have legitimate concerns. I am constantly the "crazy one" and they always rub it in my face about "this is the reason I have friends and you don't". I hate the fact that I care about people and this is how people treat me. I find it somewhat sad-humorous that the same people hate and loathe suicide and suicidal people and have no idea I'm on here. They'll spit on my grave, most likely, even though despite my arguments I have always cared. I hate playing mindgames.
 
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bearbrikk

Listen to the voice in your head
May 2, 2024
121
I 100% understand this. I have always been masking but not the usual masking. I have always observed people at first and changed myself to their liking and mirrored them. For about 3 years I have been trying to be myself. I mean the most I can be. I just don't understand people. People never mean what they say, you always have to consider their body language in combination with you trying to figure out what they actually mean. Because they never mean what they say. It is a constant struggle/fight.
 
escape_from_hell

escape_from_hell

Specialist
Feb 22, 2024
379
Humans are just disgusting animals, sorry.
There is no magical magnanimous spirit. Just an animal 'soul' that wants to do animal shit.
It's all about filling holes. Mouth. Shovel food in. Giner. Shovel pp in. Soul. Shovel happy in.
That's all the 'complex' social world comes down to anyway. You're just more shit to be shoveled.
We're in hell.
 
lostinwoe

lostinwoe

woefully bound to death.
Mar 1, 2024
154
Did they give an excuse to why they didn't or where they just negligent?
they were negligent. even after I dropped out of highschool, they refused to believe there was anything wrong with me
 
LaVieEnRose

LaVieEnRose

Angelic
Jul 23, 2022
4,252
Autism is one of the circles of hell that Dante forgot to include.
 
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Red Moon

Red Moon

Warlock
Sep 21, 2022
722
I relate, I have autism myself and I can't read body language, faces too well, I can't hold a conversation and eye contact. I can't and not interested in the games and competition that people play socially and the social hierarchy.

That's a big reason why I want to exit the world and ctb.
 
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Ravel

Ravel

tired
Dec 13, 2021
136
I know how it is. I can't even talk properly anymore
 
Philipp_Mainländer1

Philipp_Mainländer1

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May 2, 2024
8
I suspect I might be on the autism spectrum - both of my brothers have aspergers, but I was diagnosed with ADHD. I understand that feeling of 'not getting' people, especially people you might call 'normies' or neurotypical. It's like there's this whole layer of subtle social communication that I'm not getting when I try and talk to people - I can just see that they know I'm somehow different. They see that you're different and they want nothing to do with you. My mannerisms or total lack of natural wit - I can feel it.

A few years ago I used to be more socially open to people, but I often messed it up because I didn't realize I was saying weird, inappropriate, or sometimes bizarre things. I constantly look back on things I said and just cringe - but my mind is just like that. I can't help but feel weird. I especially hate when people say 'everyone's weird, it's okay to be weird!', but just mean some vague shit like eating peanut butter with their hands or something like that.
 
Linda

Linda

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Jul 30, 2020
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I suspect I might be on the autism spectrum - both of my brothers have aspergers, but I was diagnosed with ADHD. I understand that feeling of 'not getting' people, especially people you might call 'normies' or neurotypical. It's like there's this whole layer of subtle social communication that I'm not getting when I try and talk to people - I can just see that they know I'm somehow different. They see that you're different and they want nothing to do with you. My mannerisms or total lack of natural wit - I can feel it.

A few years ago I used to be more socially open to people, but I often messed it up because I didn't realize I was saying weird, inappropriate, or sometimes bizarre things. I constantly look back on things I said and just cringe - but my mind is just like that. I can't help but feel weird. I especially hate when people say 'everyone's weird, it's okay to be weird!', but just mean some vague shit like eating peanut butter with their hands or something like that.
An easy and reasonably accurate (though not perfect) way to test whether you are autistic is to take the AQ (Autism Spectrum Quotient) test. You can take it online. It gives you a score in the range 0 to 50. Autistic people usually score 32 or higher.
 
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Sprite_Geist

Sprite_Geist

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May 27, 2020
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I am 26, and I have autism. Socialisation is exceedingly hard, everything is a battle, everything is peacocking, everything is a test of how much better people are then each other, even here on SaSu
This is relatable. I have never understood people who "peacock"; it can be argued that it is part of human/general animal nature, but this still does not make it okay, and it is not necessary anymore in my opinion. You cannot go anywhere - even in public - without at least one horrible person who feels the need to go out of their way to try and act in this way. It makes you think: "Just go away! Get on with your own life!"

Given that this is a forum for those who are feeling suicidal, it should be expected that more people be understandable. Sometimes there will threads in which a user who is suicidal will criticize others for having a "better" life - for example - as if this prevents somebody from feeling pain. I think that this is slightly hypocritical.

Are you a pretty, very-social girl? How about a social, well-off boy? I hate talking to people, I hate them all, their games, their lies, their bullshit, double-meanings, I hate it all. But because I was cursed and placed into this world, I have to talk to them, I have to play their games, it is wired into my brain.
Oftentimes people who are autistic are criticized for lacking empathy or social skills, and because of this they are viewed as mean-spirited, but from my own (personal) experience it is those who are neurotypical who have these traits. If a group of neurotypical people are gossiping, playing mindgames and just generally being horrible then who can blame an autistic individual for not wanting to engage with them? Yet somehow it is the individual with autism who is labelled as "unempathetic". This lack of self-awareness is awful.
 
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EmptyHeaded

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Experienced
Jan 24, 2024
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An easy and reasonably accurate (though not perfect) way to test whether you are autistic is to take the AQ (Autism Spectrum Quotient) test. You can take it online. It gives you a score in the range 0 to 50. Autistic people usually score 32 or higher.
There's many studies on it that have concluded it's not accurate. The threshold is too low, too many ambiguous (and sometimes repeating) questions etc. Additionally, it is designed to be filled out by a trained professional and not yourself. Because of that, someone with Autism can take it and score significantly below the threshold and someone without it can take it and score significantly above. E.g. I can take it and easily score above 40, yet I don't have autism.
None of those online screenings are accurate, especially not if done by yourself.
 
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Hotsackage

Enlightened
Mar 11, 2019
1,041
Ya, we all get barried, so good luck to them.
 
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TiredOfAllThis

Arcanist
Feb 5, 2024
453
Yes, same here. I got officially diagnosed very recently, but the communications have always been a serious challenge for me. I have always been scared of people, and that is for a reason.
 
takeyourshotfunboy

takeyourshotfunboy

Smile...
Oct 11, 2019
206
If I could snap my fingers and
make any one of my conditions go away it would be autism without a doubt. At least with something like depression you can usually overcome it through therapy and medication, autism is an incurable neurological condition. I'll always be a freak
 
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Linda

Linda

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Jul 30, 2020
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There's many studies on it that have concluded it's not accurate. The threshold is too low, too many ambiguous (and sometimes repeating) questions etc. Additionally, it is designed to be filled out by a trained professional and not yourself. Because of that, someone with Autism can take it and score significantly below the threshold and someone without it can take it and score significantly above. E.g. I can take it and easily score above 40, yet I don't have autism.
None of those online screenings are accurate, especially not if done by yourself.
I said it wasn't perfect. But as a quick guide it's not bad for most people.
 
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TiredOfAllThis

Arcanist
Feb 5, 2024
453
Yet somehow it is the individual with autism who is labelled as "unempathetic". This lack of self-awareness is awful.
Gaslighting as it is. Too many neurotypicals just try to make advantage of anyone they see. They deceive and betray all the time
 
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