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InterstateFlowers

InterstateFlowers

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This quite recent blog post from a Nevada's (internationally) famous psychic might explain and even suprise you @Meditation guide and perhaps other curious and smart SS members:


Copy pasted text from the URL links above (if you're that paranoid and don't trust anyone on internet type of person):

I'm genuinely surprised to see an article from Erin Pavlina on this site, woah. I read her articles and some of them I don't believe whole-heartedly like the fact people choose to incarnate on Earth. I know she's explained it before like who would wanna go back to this hell-hole but I still can't wrap my head around it. But I admire her wisdom and a lot of stuff she wrote I save to get me through the day. I didn't live the same experience as her so to look from her perspective is difficult after feeling so worn down and suicidal. I read once people book a call reading and are "Literally this is the last phone call before I kill myself. You've got 30 minutes to convince me to stay alive. Go." She's written articles on suicide which I found interesting like these four and I want to believe but I rather find out on my own that take someone's words to heart.
 
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the fact people choose to incarnate on Earth.
I think this is true. I think they get terribly bored in the spirit world. You forget how bad it is. And alcoholics miss drinking, gamblers miss gambling etc. If you finally see through all this as the bait in a trap, you can rise up to a nicer level of heaven.
 
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Meditation guide

Always was, is, and always shall be.
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If there really is a God and I ever meet him, and if it's practically possible, I will kick him in the nuts.
He probably wears a solid gold cup. No doubt it happens a lot.
 
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What if God just checks in on "us" sometimes. Everything works as a system. It's self sufficient. That's the point. He just makes sure the basics work. And in between he fixes major bugs. Remember that one ice age. That's when he tried turning it off and on again. Shit works every time. Then one time he came back and the dinosaurs we're fucked, shitty asteroid. How did that happen? Oh he forgot he upgraded to windows 10. The Sims 1 jurassic world doesn't run on that. Ok then, I buy the Sims 4. God, remember the old stuff, things were so much better and simple, now the characters have so much emotion options, scary. Rather be a child again.Stupid expansion packs are so expensive.. duh. Let's just put people in pools then and remove the ladder. Recently he upgraded to eco lifestyle he thinks corona works fine so far. Being a hikikomori sucks, but at least he doesn't have to see light or people ever again or why do you think the universe is so damn dark and empty. If he ever gets over depression he might turn off the computer one day but right now SS gives him a reason to live he actually switched to recovery after talking to some nice people again.
 
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I think hes a decent bloke but it just all got a bit out of hand for him and he lost control of stuff
He was so pleased with himself when he created quantum mechanics that he failed to calculate the entirety of its tree of possibilities.

Once abiogenesis started and got a bit out of hand on this random planet near a sun, he looked away and started whistling, pretending he hadn't noticed. He's been doing that ever since.
I think this is true. I think they get terribly bored in the spirit world. You forget how bad it is. And alcoholics miss drinking, gamblers miss gambling etc. If you finally see through all this as the bait in a trap, you can rise up to a nicer level of heaven.
Life on earth is just a bait and switch for spirits. They can't help but be lured by the illusions and promises of pleasures. Fall for it every time.
 
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I guess life could be viewed as a marathon or some other grueling event. The question could be asked whether marathon organizers are sadistic bastards that enjoy watching people suffer.
 
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Hopeindeath!

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God is not a psychopath. I can not explain why people suffer what they are suffering. I do believe that one day my suffering will end, and that I will meet Jesus in Heaven.
 
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Throwmyselfaway

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Jan 14, 2020
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If you look back to the crusades, there was a rare known one called the children's crusades. It's as bad as you think. The church sent children into battle against an army. How the fuck is that an ok thing for a church to do who claims to be backed by god.
 
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Suffering: Widow with 9 children all but 2 work with mom at a cotton mill. Notice the kids don't have shoes.
Widow nine children At that time, there were over two million American children under the age of 14 working mostly in coal mines, textile mills, glass factories, fish canneries, on cotton plantations and vegetable farms
 
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Broken Chimera

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God has to be hands of if it exists. If we were made in its image and most of us feel empathy then it would make sense for it to be similar.

Now if we're talking about the Christian God then yes, he's a bloodthirsty psychopath who gets off on others pain and only wants prayer for attention. When people needed him, he ignored then. Just one of the many lies in the Bible. Tell me he doesn't sound like the devil that's mentioned in the OT.
 
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au revoir
Jun 13, 2019
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I have a lawyer on retainer just in case afterlife exist. We built enough to prosecute God and put him away for a long time.

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I don't believe in any personal or any god that interferes, i don't believe it has the ability to interfere with it's creation.

if it did then yes it would be a psychopath
 
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I like the Book of Job in the Bible because it talks about this but doesn't answer the question. Job didn't get mad at God for his suffering. He was rewarded for that. His attitude was that it was OK to suffer if that's what God wants.
 
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voidman

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Sep 15, 2020
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Personally speaking, I don't even believe in god in the traditional sense. So it's a moot point as far as I'm concerned.
 
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I wouldn't say that, at least I'm not sure of it. It's true in Buddhism enlightenment is thought of as a purely human achievement and Buddha did not claim to be of divine origin but in the story of his enlightenment prince Gautama encountered the demon Mara who tried to make him stray from the path. Since Mara is portrayed as some kind of supernatural being he could be thought of as a god of sorts.

Atheism simply means denial of the existence of god/gods. I think it depends on whether one sees this Mara as an actual existing being or as the personification of temptation, i.e. as something that happens in one's mind.

Of course I'm not a specialist in Buddhism so i could be wrong.

I'll help you out. :)

Gautama said that devas exist, just as other realms such as heavens exist, but devas do not interfere in earthly matters. And yet...

According to the Majjhima Nikāya, one of the earliest Buddhist texts considered to potentially be words spoken by Guatama...

When he reached enlightenment, he wanted to remain isolated and in meditation, and was concerned that if he tried to teach the dharma, no one would get it. He said the Brahmā Sahampati appeared to him, knew what he was thinking, and convinced him to teach because there were many with little dust in their eyes and were ready to learn.



I have a lawyer on retainer just in case afterlife exist. We built enough to prosecute God and put him away for a long time.

"The Trial of God is a play by Elie Wiesel about a fictional trial calling God as the defendant. Though the setting itself is fictional, and the play's notes indicate that it "should be performed as a tragic farce", the events that he based the story on were witnessed first-hand as a teenager in Auschwitz." (Wikipedia) He witnessed other Jews put God on trial and convict him. After it was over, they still prayed. Wiesel lost his belief in God in Auschwitz but in later years claimed to believe. I think he had a complex experience of faith.
 
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peacechoice

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Oct 11, 2020
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I had a weird dream while high, it was as if there is a god. There is one, but he doesn't punish us if we do decide to die by ending it. It gave me peace in knowing that suicide was okay. So the dream went like this... the people who are chronically, ill depressed, etc. (Think of all those that have had horrible lives) and make it to old age to their death, are reincarnated as successful celebrities (Think of those who become rich and are well known). They get the best outcome and get to eventually live a good life. Now think of those people who are like us and are suicidal and have to deal with so much crap. If we decide not to ride out the suffering and end it, we are reincarnated again, with slightly better chances at making it to the end, but if we do kill ourselves we end up in total darkness/ kind of like peace. We just sleep, we don't get reincarnated. We don't ever get to live that good life ever. If we have an illness and decide to end it because of it, we get another chance to make it because we've suffered but we have to make it. Those that make it twice in life get to finally go to eternal heaven! That is the ultimate goal. But the lesson was that God doesn't punish. To me it meant that ending it just ends your possibility of making it to a better day, but you can't blame everyone for not making it. Which is why god doesn't punish us if we kill ourselves.
 
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I had a weird dream while high, it was as if there is a god. There is one, but he doesn't punish us if we do decide to die by ending it. It gave me peace in knowing that suicide was okay. So the dream went like this... the people who are chronically, ill depressed, etc. (Think of all those that have had horrible lives) and make it to old age to their death, are reincarnated as successful celebrities (Think of those who become rich and are well known). They get the best outcome and get to eventually live a good life. Now think of those people who are like us and are suicidal and have to deal with so much crap. If we decide not to ride out the suffering and end it, we are reincarnated again, with slightly better chances at making it to the end, but if we do kill ourselves we end up in total darkness/ kind of like peace. We just sleep, we don't get reincarnated. We don't ever get to live that good life ever. If we have an illness and decide to end it because of it, we get another chance to make it because we've suffered but we have to make it. Those that make it twice in life get to finally go to eternal heaven! That is the ultimate goal. But the lesson was that God doesn't punish. To me it meant that ending it just ends your possibility of making it to a better day, but you can't blame everyone for not making it. Which is why god doesn't punish us if we kill ourselves.

That's interesting. I had a vision like that a few years ago after a suicide attempt. The life I was promised was so amazing, so beautiful, that all I could do was sob with gratitude at the thought of it.

Except, I don't really care about good things anymore. I have reached a point where I am more likely to attack a spiritual entity if it suggests something like that, if only because it opens up the possibility of me coming back here.
 
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No idea why there's a universe like this but, by the by, look at the word psychopathy. Psychological pathology. Mental illness. Changed meaning over about a century, sign of the stigma.
 
peacechoice

peacechoice

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That's interesting. I had a vision like that a few years ago after a suicide attempt. The life I was promised was so amazing, so beautiful, that all I could do was sob with gratitude at the thought of it.

Except, I don't really care about good things anymore. I have reached a point where I am more likely to attack a spiritual entity if it suggests something like that, if only because it opens up the possibility of me coming back here.
I know what you mean, I don't want to even exist anymore! I think the reality of that dream was that "eternal life" is just meaning that people won't forget you, which is what celebrities often get. When you are forgotten then you are completely dead. Celebrities and well known people are here and intact. They are here way longer and I think that is what is referred to as eternal life. I don't wish to be here anymore, I just want to go.
 
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I wouldn't say that, at least I'm not sure of it. It's true in Buddhism enlightenment is thought of as a purely human achievement and Buddha did not claim to be of divine origin but in the story of his enlightenment prince Gautama encountered the demon Mara who tried to make him stray from the path. Since Mara is portrayed as some kind of supernatural being he could be thought of as a god of sorts.

Atheism simply means denial of the existence of god/gods. I think it depends on whether one sees this Mara as an actual existing being or as the personification of temptation, i.e. as something that happens in one's mind.

Of course I'm not a specialist in Buddhism so i could be wrong.

I've also heard it said that the alleged author of original buddhism never denied theism but said it was an unnecessary distraction. I'm personally not a fan of buddhism or any other religion. You could reinterpret them in a number of different ways in any case. I doubt there's ever going to be enough evidence for one interpretation of any religion.
 
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There is no god.
 
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Jan 18, 2020
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Seeing how many evil bastards there are on Earth (war, murder, torture, rape,...), then the sentence "God created us in his own image" makes perfect sense !
 
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sadbadpsychogirl

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May 29, 2020
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just pointing out that not all psychopaths are sadistic. i really dislike hurting people and try to do nice things whenever i can.
 
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Oct 19, 2020
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Al Pacino summed it up for me


It is so hard for me to not relate to these feelings. What is comes down to for me is that everything that is, just is.
 
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EssenceFocus

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It can seem that there is a "God" who is a psychopath because of all this suffering all over the world.
But what if all the suffering on earth will disappear in the near future and won't come back forever? What if there won't be depressions anymore? What if there won't be wars, no money system like today?

Yes, the earth is a very (i don't want to say bad) difficult place at the moment. But would the "God" still be a psychopath when negativity on our earth will disappear?
 
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It can seem that there is a "God" who is a psychopath because of all this suffering all over the world.
But what if all the suffering on earth will disappear in the near future and won't come back forever? What if there won't be depressions anymore? What if there won't be wars, no money system like today?
Nope, those things are deeply wired in our genes. Of course you can meddle with our genes, but won't we then turn into sheeps living in some "brave new world" ?
 
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Kat!

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Well I guess religion is all about that, "faith."

You have to have faith in him, have to have faith that he exists, and nit pick every incident in which you were saved or a miracle happened, to affirm your belief in him.
Surely he could be a good person, because bad things tend to happen, but I don't know. That's all up for interpretation.
 
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EssenceFocus

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Nope, those things are deeply wired in our genes. Of course you can meddle with our genes, but won't we then turn into sheeps living in some "brave new world" ?
Everything depends of our state of mind. Yes, our aggressive instincts may be there, but we can choose to act differently. Don't underestimate the potential of our consciousness and how everything can(will) change very fast compared to the long time since humanity has existed, I don't want to go into it here further.
 
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This quite recent blog post from a Nevada's (internationally) famous psychic might explain and even suprise you @Meditation guide and perhaps other curious and smart SS members:


Copy pasted text from the URL links above (if you're that paranoid and don't trust anyone on internet type of person):

God looked around the conference table and took a sip of his Intergalactic nectar, waiting for the meeting to begin. He was excited to be sitting with all the other gods in the multi-verse. His report was ready, and he was eager to share his experience with the other creators.

The lights flickered a bit, and the board chairman made her way inside. She looked serious, ready for business. God sat straighter in his seat.

"Welcome, everyone," said the board chairman, sitting at the head of the table. "I appreciate your attendance and your time. Let's get right to the reports. Who would like to go first?"

Some gods shifted in their seats, looking a little nervous, but not God, he was ready. He raised his hand and the board chairman called on him.

"Thank you, Ma'am, as you all probably know, I am the creator of Universe 528-314 Alpha. We've got a lovely operation going there. We're still expanding. Lots of planets, lots of life out there, but we're still in our infancy relative to many of you."

The chairman looked through some papers in front of her and said, "Yes, I've read up on your universe. It's well ordered, very tidy."

"Thank you, Madame Chairman. I try to keep things flowing smoothly, and resist the urge to destroy and recreate areas. I've done that in the past and I've realized it doesn't really fix anything. You just have to let your life forms solve their own problems."

The chairman replied, "It says here in this report that your incarnated life forms are imbued with free will. Is that true?"

There was a collective gasp in the room. God looked around at the other beings and started to feel a little defensive.

"Well… yes, Ma'am. I'm not terribly interested in controlling every little thing my life forms do. You see, life is much more interesting and exciting for them if they get to decide for themselves how their lives will turn out. It's exhilarating really."

Another being leaned towards God and said, "But don't they hurt themselves or get lost on their paths? How do you protect them from their folly?"

God replied, "I don't."

More shocked gasps from the room.

God looked around and wondered if maybe he shouldn't have gone first, but he steeled himself and said, "I let them fall down, and I encourage them to rise again. I let them make mistakes, and they learn from them and make different choices. Well, most of the time they make different choices."

The room was silent as the other gods pondered this.

The chairman said, "But what if they decide to do something you don't approve of? What if they hurt other life forms, or damage the planet you gave them?"

God shrugged. "I'm not going to lie, it does happen. It happens every day. My life forms can get pretty ignited, especially because they don't remember they are part of one collective energy."

"Wait," said one of the other gods, "Your life forms don't remember where they come from? And who they really are?"

God said, "Well, no. When they take physical form they forget their lives in the ether."

"Don't you think that's a little barbaric, God? You put them on a planet and they don't remember who they are? That sounds like a recipe for disaster. How do they function without remembering they are loved, that they are one with the universe, that they are all connected?"

God replied, "It's part of the experience, it's part of their growth. When I put them on a planet, I leave it to the others who are already incarnated to teach them how to function there."

The chairman said, "But you mentioned that sometimes your life forms hurt others and destroy aspects of your creation. Don't you want to step in and fix all of that so things run more smoothly?"

"No," said God. "I want them to co-create their shared experience. I want them to have freedom to explore their thoughts and ideas. And yes, sometimes that leads to wars, poverty, famine, and disease, but it just as often leads to innovation, heroism, acts of kindness, and connection to others. I want them to see cause and effect and change their actions when they don't like their results."

Another god leaned in and said, "Has this been a successful model for you? Do you survey your life forms when they slough off their physical forms? Are they happy with your universal policies?"

God perked up a bit and said, "Oh yes. After my life forms return to the ether they are excited to share what they experienced with other souls. They share the heartaches, the joys, the pain, their successes. And they are eager to go back and incarnate again."

One god gasped and said, "They willingly return to the chaos of free will? It sounds so untidy to me. I'm not really sure I understand the benefit of giving them free will if they are going to make messes of their planets."

God swallowed and looked at the group.

He said, "Look, I realize that you guys run your universes a little differently. And I know my model is somewhat new. But I have discovered that when you control every aspect of a soul's incarnation that they feel caged, powerless, and helpless. Free will gives them personal power. They can create any kind of life they want. It causes them to think about their actions and the impact of those actions. It spawns dreams and desires that to some might seem impossible, but to them are achievable. It gives them a playground to take risks, and to reap the benefits of what they've sown. And even though they struggle, they appreciate the opportunity to make their lives whatever they desire. Nothing is outside their reach."

"Do you smite them or punish them when they misbehave?" someone asked.

"No, I do not," God replied. "They must suffer the natural consequences of their actions and decide if they want to change their behavior to manifest different results."

"Do you answer their prayers?" another asked.

"Also, no. Once I set their feet in the world the results they get are up to them. They have the freedom to make their lives amazing or the freedom to destroy their lives if they want to," God replied. "I will not interfere with their experience."

"Do you sever your connection to them when they incarnate? Are they totally without your love and support and care?"

"No, not at all. I am with them, always. I hurt when they hurt. I rejoice in their joy. I celebrate when they manifest great things. And I grieve when they suffer. But I will not take control of their lives or change an outcome for them. It robs them of their experience and personal power."

The chairman said, "It sounds really interesting, to be honest. Would you mind if I tagged along with you when you return and see how this system works in person? I'm fascinated by what you're offering your life forms."

God replied, "Absolutely, I would welcome the scrutiny. I love my souls dearly, and that's why I want them to have the lives of their dreams, unfettered by MY desires for them. I want them to manifest their own experience and know they can accomplish anything."

The chairman said, "Thank you for your report. I think you've given us all something to consider. Who would like to give the next report?"

God sat back in his chair with a smile on his face. He sent an outpouring of love to all of creation, and drank the rest of his nectar.

Cute kindergarten story, although things aren't this simple. This isn't a planet of free-will, you can only begin interacting with the movie in an impactful way after going through an awakening. While you're asleep? You go wherever the wind blows, sometimes lucky and other times not.

Images get dictated to us regardless of our inner wishes & feelings. An accurate decoding of reality would be that either A. the public desired this hell into existence or B. criminal rapist devils have hijacked the cosmic paintbrush so they can shape any past. present and future timeline to their liking. This is what's known as a Negative Timeline, maintaining the Unbalance in order for the real Virus to be dominant.
 
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