Method SN Seems Not Feasible Anymore

[AveMori]

I am starting to think more about hanging these days. SN does not seem to be able to be bought in EU anymore and i am quite sure I won't pull off a successful cutting attempt. However a perfectly planned partial hang seems not like the worst solution. My preferred method would probably be CO, but not sure if I can pull that off without endangering others.

 

[ghostbird]

I'm in the exact same boat. SN is 100% my preferable method but I don't think I'm going to be able to get it (I did actually order what I thought was SN and took it, but it turned out to be sodium nitrate instead). I've got other meds I can OD with but I know the lethality of that is pretty low so I think I'll be going with hanging as well.

It pisses me off though, to have so little autonomy over my life. What right does the government have to deny me a painless death if that is what I have decided with a fully conscious and capable mind? Instead I have to resort to gruesome methods and secrecy. If only voluntary euthanasia was legal, I could die peacefully, surrounded by my friends and family. We all deserve that.

 

[Unwr!tten]

This is so incredibly sad. I understand that authorities want people to live, but like why not address the reasons people want to die instead of taking away peaceful methods. Nothing has changed with taking away access to N and SN except now people are going to die in agonizing pain.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Unfortunately, this was bound to happen the more media exposure this forum got and the more deaths linked to this website and the information on SN there is here especially since most deaths are in the UK, US, Canada, Australia etc... . Sn isn't a completely peaceful method but for what it is does, it's definitely good enough however the authorities don't care and want to minimize as many accessible methods as possible. This just shows that your autonomy doesn't mean shit to them, it just means that you get to stay here and be a wage slave like everyone else with no one caring about your problems. The very least we deserve is the ability to choose when we'd like to go out on our own terms, nevermind the access to peacful euthanasia we all deserve because none of us asked for any of the problems we have to respectively deal with. Thank goodness I live in a shithole of a country that has too many problems to worry about suicide or suicide methods as an issue.

I did actually order what I thought was SN and took it, but it turned out to be sodium nitrate instead).

How was the experience though, if you dont mind detailing what it felt like.

 

[ghostbird]

How was the experience though, if you dont mind detailing what it felt like.

I have a post on my profile detailing exactly that! Overall it was pleasant. If SN is anything like how the nitrate was, then it would be a great way to go.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I have a post on my profile detailing exactly that! Overall it was pleasant. If SN is anything like how the nitrate was, then it would be a great way to go.

That's interesting, usually Nitrate has a similar effect to sn even it isn't deadly. You mind linking it?

 

[NewSereneC]

I have a post on my profile detailing exactly that! Overall it was pleasant. If SN is anything like how the nitrate was, then it would be a great way to go.

Pleasant in what way?

 

[ghostbird]

That's interesting, usually Nitrate has a similar effect to sn even it isn't deadly. You mind linking it?

Here's what it's like to die from SN.

I attempted ctb yesterday with the SN regimen. Didn't work obviously (I threw up), but I thought it would be helpful to describe how it felt for people considering this method. I would definitely choose this method next time as it was painless and pretty comfortable. My mistake was not having...

sanctioned-suicide.net

 

[Fktw0rld]

Don't be discouraged because sn is no longer available. I have it, along with all antiemetics and prerequisites. After 2 years of extensive research and being a hardcore passenger on the sn bus. I'm choosing partial.

 

[Praestat_Mori]

That's interesting, usually Nitrate has a similar effect to sn even it isn't deadly. You mind linking it?

Nitrate turns into nitrite and vice versa in our bodies that's a natural process. That causes some symptoms but the process itself is slow. It would need a much larger amount of nitrate ingested to be lethal.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Nitrate turns into nitrite and vice versa in our bodies that's a natural process. That causes some symptoms but the process itself is slow. It would need a much larger amount of nitrate ingested to be lethal.

I do tend to forget about this.

Here's what it's like to die from SN.

I attempted ctb yesterday with the SN regimen. Didn't work obviously (I threw up), but I thought it would be helpful to describe how it felt for people considering this method. I would definitely choose this method next time as it was painless and pretty comfortable. My mistake was not having...

sanctioned-suicide.net

Oooh I remember this thread, sorry about that. I completely forgot about it but I remember your experience now.

 

[FuneralCry]

I wish you the best with your plans, it's certainly so horrible to me how we exist in this pro-suffering society where people try to make suicide as inaccessible as possible, I hate how it's so unnecessarily difficult to die on our own terms.

 

[greatgooglymoogly]

even in the US it doesn't seem within reach… I planned to be dead weeks ago by SN but I ended up buying the PC brand, which had such mixed reviews that I never picked it up or tested it.

The actual process of dying by pure CO seems most ideal to me but I started to attempt with charcoal in my car and decided it wasn't for me. I wish I could just be one of the unlucky ones who gets CO poisoned in their sleep rather than some family.

I too am leaning towards partial at this point, though it feels more "brutal" and it's def going to take some more practice to get the balls to do it and pass out quick.

 

[juliejulie95]

Sorry. New here. Want to pm but not sure how? Help?

 

[DreamEnd]

Don't be discouraged because sn is no longer available. I have it, along with all antiemetics and prerequisites. After 2 years of extensive research and being a hardcore passenger on the sn bus. I'm choosing partial.

Mind telling why you decided to switch from sn to partial ?

 

[Fktw0rld]

Mind telling why you decided to switch from sn to partial ?

I don't mind. I've been studying and practicing both tourniquet and partial for over a year now. I'm to a point where I can make myself blackout with my own thumbs in 10 seconds, give or take 2. I know once my device is properly set and I commit, I'll be unconscious faster than I can ponder my decision. I'll convulse at the 15 sec mark and go rigid at the 20 to 25 mark. Deep abdominal respiratory movements at 25 sec, ending in roughly 1 min / 30 seconds and time will do the rest. I won't feel anything after the 15 second mark. I know this because during one of my practice sessions I had a friend on standby who removed my device, laid me in a supine position and raised my feet until I regained consciousness. He told me my arms raised and my wrists turned back on themselves, then I started convulsing before he stepped in. I didn't feel any of that. I actually went directly into a vivid dream an open field and green grass as far as I could see. I don't even remember the transition from consciousness to going unconscious. My first words were, "what happened?"

I like the thought of less preparation, low to no suffering and guaranteed death. As opposed to fasting, popping pills every few hours that aren't even guaranteed to prevent side effects. Testing, measuring, then enduring the drink. Puking for who knows how long. My heart pounding out of my chest, a pounding headache, shortness of breath, then possibly having to endure additional drinks all while pondering my decision as I hover over a toilet. And when I do finally pass out. Here comes the best part... I might wake up!

I'd much rather enjoy my last days, eat some good meals, have some whiskey, pop some xanax an hour prior, then depart peacefully.

 

[Deleted member 65988]

I don't mind. I've been studying and practicing both tourniquet and partial for over a year now. I'm to a point where I can make myself blackout with my own thumbs in 10 seconds, give or take 2. I know once my device is properly set and I commit, I'll be unconscious faster than I can ponder my decision. I'll convulse at the 15 sec mark and go rigid at the 20 to 25 mark. Deep abdominal respiratory movements at 25 sec, ending in roughly 1 min / 30 seconds and time will do the rest. I won't feel anything after the 15 second mark. I know this because during one of my practice sessions I had a friend on standby who removed my device, laid me in a supine position and raised my feet until I regained consciousness. He told me my arms raised and my wrists turned back on themselves, then I started convulsing before he stepped in. I didn't feel any of that. I actually went directly into a vivid dream an open field and green grass as far as I could see. I don't even remember the transition from consciousness to going unconscious. My first words were, "what happened?"

I like the thought of less preparation, low to no suffering and guaranteed death. As opposed to fasting, popping pills every few hours that aren't even guaranteed to prevent side effects. Testing, measuring, then enduring the drink. Puking for who knows how long. My heart pounding out of my chest, a pounding headache, shortness of breath, then possibly having to endure additional drinks all while pondering my decision as I hover over a toilet. And when I do finally pass out. Here comes the best part... I might wake up!

I'd much rather enjoy my last days, eat some good meals, have some whiskey, pop some xanax an hour prior, then depart peacefully.

woah, it seems you've extensively looked into Partial and feel more comfortable going through with compared to SN. I wish you all the best, this is why it's important for each individual to research a method as extensively as possible to make sure they are comfortable with it, risks and all.

 

[Fktw0rld]

woah, it seems you've extensively looked into Partial and feel more comfortable going through with compared to SN. I wish you all the best, this is why it's important for each individual to research a method as extensively as possible to make sure they are comfortable with it, risks and all.

Absolutely. Too many people just see what's trending then jump on the bandwagon. I was one of them. Then I started seeing all the sn fails and reading up on the survival cases outside of ss. Then I kept seeing new changes and charts emerging. Take this, no don't take it, take that, no don't take that now, it may cause issues, remove it, now take 1000 valium. This many grams under a certain weight / this many over, wait, here's a new chart follow this, the chart is wrong, here's a revised chart, but make sure you make additional cup cause the antiemetics might it work. Gtfoh. No way I'm putting myself through that nonsense my last few days.

 

[DreamEnd]

Absolutely. Too many people just see what's trending then jump on the bandwagon. I was one of them. Then I started seeing all the sn fails and reading up on the survival cases outside of ss. Then I kept seeing new changes and charts emerging. Take this, no don't take it, take that, no don't take that now, it may cause issues, remove it, now take 1000 valium. This many grams under a certain weight / this many over, wait, here's a new chart follow this, the chart is wrong, here's a revised chart, but make sure you make additional cup cause the antiemetics might it work. Gtfoh. No way I'm putting myself through that nonsense my last few days.

Yeah I agree with that. I tried doing the thumbs thing to go unconscious but could never do it. Partial isn't for me. Best of luck though

 

[Deleted member 65988]

Absolutely. Too many people just see what's trending then jump on the bandwagon. I was one of them. Then I started seeing all the sn fails and reading up on the survival cases outside of ss. Then I kept seeing new changes and charts emerging. Take this, no don't take it, take that, no don't take that now, it may cause issues, remove it, now take 1000 valium. This many grams under a certain weight / this many over, wait, here's a new chart follow this, the chart is wrong, here's a revised chart, but make sure you make additional cup cause the antiemetics might it work. Gtfoh. No way I'm putting myself through that nonsense my last few days.

I suppose we all have our requirements for what we have as a ctb method. I've read up on survival cases but still found SN to be still a good method with the meds in possession. It hasn't been a complicated my process for me at all, albeit slightly concerned that things would go wrong despite my best ability to prepare. I thought that, as morbid as it is to say, if a guy can do it in a car then I should be able to ctb with sn. I suppose sn had to undergo changes because even the narratives surrounding had changed opinion a lot over the years, it shows some level of ability to check if anything needs to be amended and what needs to be taken into account. I get it though, even I'm still not happy on vomiting despite having taken AEs or a longer fasting time.

Although this is why I stress that people don't jump on sn just because it's a widely discussed method and therefore you should get it too, there may be things about the method that you may not like so it's up to you to research as extensively as possible to make certain that it's the right method for you.

 

[ftm68_99]

I don't mind. I've been studying and practicing both tourniquet and partial for over a year now. I'm to a point where I can make myself blackout with my own thumbs in 10 seconds, give or take 2. I know once my device is properly set and I commit, I'll be unconscious faster than I can ponder my decision. I'll convulse at the 15 sec mark and go rigid at the 20 to 25 mark. Deep abdominal respiratory movements at 25 sec, ending in roughly 1 min / 30 seconds and time will do the rest. I won't feel anything after the 15 second mark. I know this because during one of my practice sessions I had a friend on standby who removed my device, laid me in a supine position and raised my feet until I regained consciousness. He told me my arms raised and my wrists turned back on themselves, then I started convulsing before he stepped in. I didn't feel any of that. I actually went directly into a vivid dream an open field and green grass as far as I could see. I don't even remember the transition from consciousness to going unconscious. My first words were, "what happened?"

I like the thought of less preparation, low to no suffering and guaranteed death. As opposed to fasting, popping pills every few hours that aren't even guaranteed to prevent side effects. Testing, measuring, then enduring the drink. Puking for who knows how long. My heart pounding out of my chest, a pounding headache, shortness of breath, then possibly having to endure additional drinks all while pondering my decision as I hover over a toilet. And when I do finally pass out. Here comes the best part... I might wake up!

I'd much rather enjoy my last days, eat some good meals, have some whiskey, pop some xanax an hour prior, then depart peacefully.

You make a very good case for using this method, as well as for *not* using the pills method. Thanks for your thoughts.