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So idk if I'm posting too much about this but I know nothing about medicine or chemicals and I've searched online but I don't fully trust it, so if anyone here understands about it and is willing to help me I will be really really thankful

According to the SN guides in here I have managed to get the following items:

-Tranzodone or Vinpocetine as antiemetic (it's not on the lists here but online it is said to have anti nausea effects. Would it work?

-Omeprazol as antacid

-Nebivolol as beta blocker

I then plan to take 25mg of Xanax, wait for it to kick in and take sn. I'm just afraid I will fall asleep before I actually take the sn, I tested with way less xanax on a full stomach and got really sleepy, but I don't want to take too little so I will be awake when the sn effects and si start hitting up.

Please if you know anything about the drugs I mentioned let me know. These are what I found at home and I don't really know how to get my hands on the "recommended" ones.
 
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You don't wait for it to kick in, cos when it kicks in, you won't take the SN, you'll pass out. Take it within 5 mins before taking the SN. Set a timer if needed. If you have a low tolerance, take the sn straight after taking the xanax
 
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You don't wait for it to kick in, cos when it kicks in, you won't take the SN, you'll pass out. Take it within 5 mins before taking the SN. Set a timer if needed. If you have a low tolerance, take the sn straight after taking the xanax
But then if I throw up I also throw up the xanx… ppl in here are saying to take a 30-40 min interval, but as I don't know my tolerance and don't have much left to test idk what to do…
 
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25mg of Xanax is a lot if you have never taken it before. It is usually prescribed at 0.5mg. It's going to put you to sleep fast at your dosage. I don't know much about your other medications, I'm planning to just take SN and benzos. Maybe some painkillers.
 
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You don't wait for it to kick in, cos when it kicks in, you won't take the SN, you'll pass out. Take it within 5 mins before taking the SN. Set a timer if needed. If you have a low tolerance, take the sn straight after taking the xanax
My understanding is that the onset time of xanax is 15-30 minutes, is that right? Is the goal not to lose consciousness as quickly as possible after taking SN?
 
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My understanding is that the onset time of xanax is 15-30 minutes, is that right? Is the goal not to lose consciousness as quickly as possible after taking SN?
But on an empty stomach it absorbs much faster, that's the only issue. Usually the onset is 15-30 minutes, but that's when you've got food and liquid in your stomach, so it wouldn't be accurate once you've fasted, I'd take it 5-10 mins (10 mins at most) before sn on an empty stomach rather than 15-30. Plus the dosage is much higher etc, so there's a lot of variables of why you can't take it at the "usual" onset.
 
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But on an empty stomach it absorbs much faster, that's the only issue. Usually the onset is 15-30 minutes, but that's when you've got food and liquid in your stomach, so it wouldn't be accurate once you've fasted, I'd take it 5-10 mins (10 mins at most) before sn on an empty stomach rather than 15-30. Plus the dosage is much higher etc, so there's a lot of variables of why you can't take it at the "usual" onset.
Thank you for your responses. Do these times come from swallowing pills, or drinking benzos crushed in water as is outlined in the PPH?
 
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Thank you for your responses. Do these times come from swallowing pills, or drinking benzos crushed in water as is outlined in the PPH?
Drinking benzos that are crushed. You don't want to swallow pills, cos they'll mean a lot more liquid. Ppeh basically says to drink the benzos, followed by the SN (No time frame like waiting for benzos onset — Just due to the possibility of passing out before being able to drink the sn). If you do want to take benzos earlier, I'd probably try to take it 5 mins before the sn (10 mins is a stretch, you run a risk of passing out before taking SN, even 5 mins can be risky depending on someones tolerance and how quickly itll absorb on an empty stomach)
 
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Drinking benzos that are crushed. You don't want to swallow pills, cos they'll mean a lot more liquid. Ppeh basically says to drink the benzos, followed by the SN (No time frame like waiting for benzos onset — Just due to the possibility of passing out before being able to drink the sn). If you do want to take benzos earlier, I'd probably try to take it 5 mins before the sn (10 mins is a stretch, you run a risk of passing out before taking SN, even 5 mins can be risky depending on someones tolerance and how quickly itll absorb on an empty stomach)
But what if you vomit because of the sn? Then you'll be vomiting the benzos too and that won't go well

Also, I am going to make a thread about this, but I've been testing my Xanax and I fear I'm getting addicted to it, the problem is I only have a little left now. Do you think 10 mg (on an empty stomach following the regime) will knock me out? I've been experimenting with 3/4mg and it does make me sleepy but not near to high need to sleep or unconsciousness… I've taken them with a full stomach but still I'm afraid what I have left will be enough or not to sedate me. Also I'm getting really addicted to the euphoric feeling so if I don't control myself I will end up with no benzos at all… I'm having a psychiatrist appointment soon but he's not dumb, I'm afraid he won't prescribe me Xanax. Does anyone know where to buy it online? (A legit source if possible) or if faking a prescription can be noticed or put me in trouble… I would just change the date of my older prescription. Can pharmaceutics identify if it's fake? Like talking to the doctor or it going to a system that can notify the doctor I really don't know anything about this
 
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But what if you vomit because of the sn? Then you'll be vomiting the benzos too and that won't go well

Also, I am going to make a thread about this, but I've been testing my Xanax and I fear I'm getting addicted to it, the problem is I only have a little left now. Do you think 10 mg (on an empty stomach following the regime) will knock me out? I've been experimenting with 3/4mg and it does make me sleepy but not near to high need to sleep or unconsciousness… I've taken them with a full stomach but still I'm afraid what I have left will be enough or not to sedate me. Also I'm getting really addicted to the euphoric feeling so if I don't control myself I will end up with no benzos at all… I'm having a psychiatrist appointment soon but he's not dumb, I'm afraid he won't prescribe me Xanax. Does anyone know where to buy it online? (A legit source if possible) or if faking a prescription can be noticed or put me in trouble… I would just change the date of my older prescription. Can pharmaceutics identify if it's fake? Like talking to the doctor or it going to a system that can notify the doctor I really don't know anything about this
Unsure of why, it's just that ppeh recommends basically taking both simultaneously. (I think it's due to them wanting it to work for most people, and not risking people passing out — Personally, I'd take benzos 5 mins before hand, if you start "Feeling the effects", take the SN immediately because benzos can be very rapid, and there won't be a chance to drink sn if you pass out before doing so)

It's hard to find the "Holy grail" setting with benzos and sn. People want to pass out relatively quickly after drinking the SN. I'd rather play it safe, so I get the sn into me.

On an empty stomach, the effects of benzos are heightened. You have no or minimal food and liquid in the stomach that could slow down the absorption. With SN, you don't need benzos, they're there to ease it and make it more pleasant. It "Should" knock you out on an empty stomach, depending on your tolerance.

But let's say it "didn't" knock you out, you'd still feel a bit wonky (Unsure on what word to explain it), and therefore you wouldn't care as much like if you took the SN sober.
 
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My only concern here is choking on vomit (due to the Benzos) . Is that likely? Or would you just vomit it out fully.
 
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My only concern here is choking on vomit (due to the Benzos) . Is that likely? Or would you just vomit it out fully.
Same question
Unsure of why, it's just that ppeh recommends basically taking both simultaneously. (I think it's due to them wanting it to work for most people, and not risking people passing out — Personally, I'd take benzos 5 mins before hand, if you start "Feeling the effects", take the SN immediately because benzos can be very rapid, and there won't be a chance to drink sn if you pass out before doing so)

It's hard to find the "Holy grail" setting with benzos and sn. People want to pass out relatively quickly after drinking the SN. I'd rather play it safe, so I get the sn into me.

On an empty stomach, the effects of benzos are heightened. You have no or minimal food and liquid in the stomach that could slow down the absorption. With SN, you don't need benzos, they're there to ease it and make it more pleasant. It "Should" knock you out on an empty stomach, depending on your tolerance.

But let's say it "didn't" knock you out, you'd still feel a bit wonky (Unsure on what word to explain it), and therefore you wouldn't care as much like if you took the SN sober.
But for a person that took 4 mg like 3 times on the same week, if I don't take more, would I have any tolerance in like a month?
And the sn bible thread says 20x40mg of benzos is recommended. I only have like 10 mg… will it work? It's not clear what the recommended dose for people with mild to no tolerance is
 
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Same question

But for a person that took 4 mg like 3 times on the same week, if I don't take more, would I have any tolerance in like a month?
And the sn bible thread says 20x40mg of benzos is recommended. I only have like 10 mg… will it work? It's not clear what the recommended dose for people with mild to no tolerance is
I read that 20x40mg dose. That's huge isnt it?
 
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I read that 20x40mg dose. That's huge isnt it?
I think it would really knock you out you wouldn't be able to drink the sn or even vomit properly it f needed
Besides it's really hard to get that much
 
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