SN or partial hanging?

[WantToQuit]

I have everything for a successful CTB via SN. But now I wonder, wouldn't the plain simple partial hanging be a better option?
What do you think?

 

[Someone123]

Both method fail sometimes, and there are multiple posts about each of these methods failing on this site, so you may want to research these before deciding- with all methods the details matter and none of them seem simple to me if you check into the details.

 

[Insomniac]

Partial hanging is a scam. It's either not painless or unsuccessful.

When I tried, I could pass out painlessly for a few sec but I'd always wake up to find myself standing on my feet (SI).

 

[Someone123]

Partial hanging is a scam. It's either not painless or unsuccessful.

When I tried, I could pass put painlessly for a few sec but I'd always wake up to find myself standing on my feet (SI).

The thing that gives most peopple hope with this method is that it is knwon that certain celebrities used it, but it does seem to fail a high percentage of the time. Like most methods, the details are the key, so with enough research a person might be able to find a way to make it work. With the celebrities if it did fail they would still be ok- they would still have a mansion to live in and with their powerful connections almost certainly could avoid going to a hospital. Maybe these celebrities had multiple attempts and the failed attempts were not publicized, that could easily be the case- they do have a right to privacy on medical matters.

 

[-FrozenRobot-]

Partial hanging is a scam. It's either not painless or unsuccessful.

When I tried, I could pass out painlessly for a few sec but I'd always wake up to find myself standing on my feet (SI).

Maybe you did it incorrectly. You can't blame the method. There are success stories using partial. I think it varies from person to person. The method can't be blamed though.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

Partial might be even more painless than SN, but partial requires more technique to set up right and is also extremely easy to fail as the body will fight and thrash violently and reflexively to remove the rope after you lose consciousness [you will make noise!]. SN is a guaranteed relatively peaceful death, but it requires a bit more time until death after consuming the SN. SN is also less likely to leave you with brain damage or serious injuries than partial if you are discovered or fail.

 

[Someone123]

Partial might be even more painless than SN, but partial requires more technique to set up right and is also extremely easy to fail as the body will fight and thrash violently and reflexively to remove the rope after you lose consciousness [you will make noise!]. SN is a guaranteed relatively peaceful death, but it requires a bit more time until death after consuming the SN. SN is also less likely to leave you with brain damage or serious injuries than partial if you are discovered or fail.

If you go close to the protocol SN has a high percentage chance to work, but not quite guaranteed. There is a thread of successes and failures with 60 successes and 16 failures, which suggests the success rate may be around 80%. This is one of the highest percentage methods, though, and you made the key point that there is typically not damage after if it fails.

Many people have posted here that they tried partial and it failed for them, but you don''t see the same thing with full suspension- it seems like full suspension on a sturdy setup is almost guaranteed to work unless someone hears you or walks in on you and takes you down.

 

[Ta555]

If you go close to the protocol SN has a high percentage chance to work, but not quite guaranteed. There is a thread of successes and failures with 60 successes and 16 failures, which suggests the success rate may be around 80%. This is one of the highest percentage methods, though, and you made the key point that there is typically not damage after if it fails.

Many people have posted here that they tried partial and it failed for them, but you don''t see the same thing with full suspension- it seems like full suspension on a sturdy setup is almost guaranteed to work unless someone hears you or walks in on you and takes you down.

The failures are mostly because the person was found isn't it? I've only read one where a person wasn't taken to hospital and still survived.

 

[Insomniac]

There are success stories using partial

most hangings are partial hangings. I didn't say that it doesn't work.

 

[Someone123]

The failures are mostly because the person was found isn't it? I've only read one where a person wasn't taken to hospital and still survived.

This is generally true of full suspension but not of partial- in most cases for partial failing people say their body stood up after passing out and tehy woke up after this.

 

[Ta555]

This is generally true of full suspension but not of partial- in most cases for partial failing people say their body stood up after passing out and tehy woke up after this.

Sorry I meant the 16 SN failures. My bad.

 

[Someone123]

Sorry I meant the 16 SN failures. My bad.

I'm not sure what it says on the thread, but the sn failures on the main board seem to alsmot always be due to throwing up, sometimes throwing up noisily after going unconscios. The closer you can get to stans guide, but many people can't get everything in stans guide and they are still able to ctb. The idea of drinking a second glass after throwing up doesn't work most of the time, since the body rejects drinking something more when the whole digestive canal has traces of vomit.

 

[Ta555]

I'm not sure what it says on the thread, but the sn failures on the main board seem to alsmot always be due to throwing up, sometimes throwing up noisily after going unconscios. The closer you can get to stans guide, but many people can't get everything in stans guide and they are still able to ctb. The idea of drinking a second glass after throwing up doesn't work most of the time, since the body rejects drinking something more when the whole digestive canal has traces of vomit.

This is why I'd hang straight after taking it.

 

[Someone123]

A post by a former prison guard here shows the challenges of partial. In prison he saw aq bunch of people who committed suicide by partial, I don't think he said exactly how many, but they were all in a seated position leaning forward into the rope. The guard, after leaving this job have seen the exact position and th eexact way they did this said that they tried this themselves 25 times without success- they are very frustrateed that they can't get this right after seeing people who did get this to work in person. So it is a very tricky method that sometimes works but often does not. In my opinion taking sn and tsticking very close to the protocol would be more effective than taking sn and hanging because the hanging would put more stress on thd body and would increase the chances of throwing up. In most cases fully committing to one method is more effective than combining methods, in my opinion. My personal plan is to try sn as close as possible to the protocol, though I won'y have benzos or a beta blocker, which aren't that high of a priority. Then if this doesn't work I will either try sn again or try full suspension. Just one person's opinion on this, though I have thought about this a lot.

 

[wanttogetonthebus]

The failures are mostly because the person was found isn't it? I've only read one where a person wasn't taken to hospital and still survived.

That's what I heard too. Or they didn't follow the dosing guide or sipped.

 

[Shu]

I'm not sure what it says on the thread, but the sn failures on the main board seem to alsmot always be due to throwing up, sometimes throwing up noisily after going unconscios. The closer you can get to stans guide, but many people can't get everything in stans guide and they are still able to ctb. The idea of drinking a second glass after throwing up doesn't work most of the time, since the body rejects drinking something more when the whole digestive canal has traces of vomit.

you've read stories of people throwing up after passing out and being found that way?

 

[Ednospatient]

I tried partial 10 fucking times with no success, so I'll say SN

 

[Someone123]

you've read stories of people throwing up after passing out and being found that way?

Not quite like that- all the ones I have read that I can remember and people throwing up and being awake right after that, the urge to throw up seems to wake them up and then they are conscious when doing this. But people typically post they didn't think they could drink the second glass after that- when your mouth and throat have traces of vomit all over them it is very repugnant to the body to put anything else in, and this will usually lead to vomiting it right back up. However, there probably are soime cases hwne someone did drink a second glass and then ctb- we wouldn't know about those since they wouldn't be able to post about them.